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after the shortage of "08"-"09" HandLoader Magazine said "hats off to Remington" as they were the only one with a dedicated line for primers for us hand loaders, I would think that is true now too,
 
I have enough powder, primers, and lead, and molds for all my calibers, an electric pot and one for over a propane stove. now I just need the zombies to be patient enough for me to make up some ammo for them.
 
The local ammo shortage where I am hasn't caught up with the nation-wide panic. I was able to pick up some .22, .38 Special, and a couple boxes of .308 over the past few weeks. When people realize what is going on, .22LR will be in pretty short supply in these parts.
The LGS owner and I discuss this weekly. He is in a tough situation because he realizes that once his supplies run out, he won't be able to replace them. But even with having to bring everything in by plane and no ability to replace right now at any price, his prices still aren't what you could call price gouging.
 
Reloaders are magical don't ya know -- everything is always on hand, available, costs less than dirt, takes seconds of mindless labor where the machine does all the work and the results are more reliable, effective, and accurate than any factory loads...
 
At the local Walmart this morning while picking up some cleaning patches, I was surprised to see several boxes of 9MM, .38 special, .40S&W, .30-06, quite a lot of Tula .223, and for the first time I've ever seen at this location a decent stack of XM193 5.56 all at very reasonable prices. This is really the first time since early December I've actually seen anything on the shelves there. The guy who rang me up was surprised they had anything on the shelves as well - hopefully supply is starting to catch up here.
 
The shortage has been in full swing here since the end of December. Most any ammo that is available is $1 per round whether its center fire rifle or pistol.

I went in to my local Wally World last week just to see what they had on the shelves. I had been told that shipments come in between 8 and 10 pm so I made it there at 9pm.

The good: They had (4) 100rd bulk packs of Winchester 20ga field and target for $25 each.

The bad: Every other bulk pack of every caliber was gone. They had a few high end center-fire rifle hunting cartridges but they were all about $30 for 20rds. They had zero 22lr.
 
I posted someplace else i got 556 for 12 dollars per box of 20 yesterday and 12 gauge for 3 bucks for 5 runds last week, So we are around 60 cents a round, 45's were 22 dolars a box.Wallmart puts them out at 8-9 pm in vero
 
I wish the Mods would delete all these threads! The "Industry Insider" aka "Doug Ross" is someone no one seems to know, or even heard of before his "Report on the State of the Industry" showed up all over this and other forums. The report came out on Jan. 25th, 2013 after a claimed meeting of the industry in Texas. What top secret details were discussed that were not readily made available at SHOT show a week earlier? Was no one aside from Mr. Ross invited? The National Shooting Sports Foundation doesn't agree with his numbers and they are the industry. Who would you believe?
 
PS: our military does not use commercially produced ammunition or SMKs or VMax or Gold Dots. Contracted ammo is just that and has no affect on availability of what you and I shoot with the exception of those limitations of current production. Still, consumers account for 3/4s of all ammunition sales annually.

Lets use our heads and due diligence before spreading conjecture. There are shortages yes but how large and for how long are not the stuff of Internet "reports" such as this.
 
The only thing that I really need at this point is rifle powder. I did most of my reloading this summer when I could find components and have a good stock of ammo. I just want to work up some match loads for the type 1 National Match M1 I picked up at the north store this fall. Keep your eyes peeled. I just picked up 2000 small pistol primers a week ago for $32 a thousand. I picked up some hardcast 9mm bullets too.
 
This is the third time it's happened during my "career" so I wasn't surprised. I remember the shortages during Slick Willie's term.

Then the shortages during this clown's first term. I buy here and there and it adds up quickly if you're careful.

The only thing I'm short on is .303 brass and bullets, and I'm really not too bad there. I don't shoot that as much as the other calibers.

Prices right now are absolutely insane, and I'm in a position that I don't have to participate in the madness.

I'm a big fan of Varget, and it is just about unobtainable lately. I did find a lb here and there during the build-up to this craze so I'm okay there too. Even reloading dies are going berserk on Gunbroker. You could put .223 on a box of Kleenex and get $100 for it. LOL
 
Well it's good to know some guy, somewhere on the Internet is telling us what not a single person reported after returning from SHOT Show. Too bad no industry leaders attended SHOT to give everyone the news. Funny, I could have sworn I saw pictures in the subforum but perhaps THR Moderators were up late with Photoshop.

Carry on with the rumors folks, fiction is always fun!
 
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Aside from reloading: Consider getting into bullet casting boys & girls.
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This is self serving but please don't encourage this. Next go around lead will be in short supply. I don't need or want that ;)


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I haven't even loaded my first round yet, but I've been squirreling away parts and supplies for a few years now. Read a few books, and keep reading these forums. Along with regular ammo and now loading supplies I know I will at least last until production returns to normal. Should be less than a year.
With the way on demand delivery systems work nowadays, pretty much any thing can be interrupted in this way for 6-12 months. For food to fuel or basic everyday supplies.

I'm building a pond this spring. Water is not something we can do without for long.
 
dragon813gt said:
This is self serving but please don't encourage this. Next go around lead will be in short supply. I don't need or want that ;)


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Just remember the keel of a sail boat usually contains a few hundred pounds of lead. ;)
 
joeschmoe said:
Just remember the keel of a sail boat usually contains a few hundred pounds of lead. ;)
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Lol, look at every commercial and recreational boat over 30 feet or so. with a few exceptions, they all have a half ton or more of lead in the bottom of them.
There will be no lead shortage.
 
niho said:
Remember, all this hi-$ stuff is sending a REAL message to our members of the US congress. Many people REALLY care about guns and ammo. They care enough to vote, to bring friends to the polls, and that should keep the Republicans, at least, "in line", and probably give at least SOME Democrats pause about just blindly leaping on the funeral pyre of outlawing any type of guns, or taxing ammo.
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Well it may keep Repubs in line and make some Dems pause, but depending on the issue. Sure, there might not be an AWB, but if we concede mags and so forth then we just open the floodgates. We need to stand strong on this one and not give them an inch. This country was founded by the gun, and has remained "free" because of it. We Americans cherish our 2a, and ill be damned if some big city politicians (with security details) trample upon it simply for political gain. There is a reason people move out of their big cities and go to places like TX AZ FL.... If liberal enclaves were so great, why are people in such a hurry to leave??
 
If this is true then I just do not see where all of this ammo is going. I mean seriously. They say that when we were fighting in Vietnam we were only using 2 million rounds a month and this guy is saying they are cranking out over a billion rounds a week? Sorry, I don't buy it. if they were making a billion rounds a week there would be no shortage but that is just my opinion. I also do not understand why in the world the military would get theirs first from a business perspective as often times the profit margin off of a government contract is nothing to the amount of profit earned on the civilian market.
 
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If this is true then I just do not see where all of this ammo is going. I mean seriously. They say that when we were fighting in Vietnam we were only using 2 million rounds a month and this guy is saying they are cranking out over a billion rounds a week? Sorry, I don't buy it. if they were making a billion rounds a week there would be no shortage but that is just my opinion. I also do not understand why in the world the military would get theirs first from a business perspective as often times the profit margin off of a government contract is nothing to the amount of profit earned on the civilian market.
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What I can't find are bullets. I always thought those would be relatively easy to find.
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Depends on caliber & if you "have" to have a certain brand.

223 is gettin rare as hen's teeth, no matter the brand.
But I just bought 2500 of my favorite 38/357 125 gr HPs at normal prices. (no different than 6 months ago)
 
Skylerbone- Thank you for your helpful input. A question, if I may? Are you saying that 100% of military contract ammo is produced OUTSIDE of plants that produce commercial ammo? If that's true, then you are right about military orders not affecting civilian sales. But there's still the issue of law enforcement orders, which I believe are produced in the same manufacturing plants that supply commercial outlets. They are way up recently, largely due to orders from federal agencies, and this most certainly WILL affect commercial ammo production. Even non-police calibers will be affected as production shifts away from civilian calibers to devote manufacturing resources to the large police orders.

As for the credentials of the individual I quoted, I admit I have no verifiable info regarding the veracity of his statements. However, might I suggest a more congenial approach to raising your concerns? The ranting about having all such posts deleted because you don't like them is a bit much.

Have a wonderful day.
 
Reloaders are magical don't ya know -- everything is always on hand, available, costs less than dirt, takes seconds of mindless labor where the machine does all the work and the results are more reliable, effective, and accurate than any factory loads...
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The guys with Dillon's are always bragging ;)
 
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