Senator to propose bill regulating black powder in wake of Boston Massacre

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Waiting for a "news" story where they follow a reporter to buy a pressure cooker, black powder, nails, and a remote controlled toy to show how "easy" it is to assemble "bomb components".

Then they will scream out "Walmart sells everything you need to build a bomb!!"
 
So now we're going to see shortages and price gouging of black powder as the 'cats start stockpiling in fear of a crackpot Senator's knee palsy.
 
Well I have been making calls to all my elected officials to stress the importance of banning Pressure Cookers.

After all NO ONE "NEEDS" a Pressure Cooker. We have ovens, stovetops, microwaves, fire pits, etc. to cook our food. Pressure Cookers are dangerous because they cook under "PRESSURE." They can and have blown up on their own, esp. when the pressure release valve gets clogged with pea soup or whatever else can be cooked in them.... hey, maybe they should ban pea soup as well....good idea.....have to remember that.

Anyway, I'm dead nuts serious about this and putting the pressure (no pun intended) on my elected officials and their 14 year old staffers on this issue and suggest you do the same.

Come on people....! If we can save only 1 child it will be worth it....

Actually, I have been making these calls... call it catharsis...
 
"Anyone seeing anyone buying components, any type of BBs or ball bearings -- a large amount of nails, even -- report that to police," he said.
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My neighbor is finally building a house on the lot that stood vacant next to mine for years and he has lotsa nails (I have watched him erecting the framing for the walls and roof).

Should I report him? Naw.

Ball bearings, though, I don't know too many people who buy ball bearings with a legitimate need, they must be doubleplusungood enemies of the state. Didn't we bomb Nazi ball bearing plants in WWII? By Godwin's law, they must be bad people. Yeah, I'll rat them out.
 
and after that law does not prevent the next event he will want
see through back-packs; will that be clear plastic or mesh, sir?
 
It's a good thing the bomber didn't use gas. We'd all be traveling by foot, bike, or horse real soon.
Mandatory background checks when filling up your car.
 
Not everyone. Just grandmas, little kids, and other us citizens. Lord knows we dont want to profile muslims. Probly post tsa agents at lowes and home depot.
 
It's not the Black Powder that's the problem!

Black powder on its own will only burn - it must be confined in order to explode. I'm sure some liberal politician will soon propose a bill to regulate all pressure cookers. Anyone owning a pressure cooker has 10 days to get it registered or face stiff fines and possibly incarceration. Pressure cookers sold from this day forward can only have a capacity or 6 ounces and you must pass a national background check, and anything capable of holding more than 6 oz. must be turned in. There will also be no transportation of pressure cookers across state lines either.

Just wait - you think I jest? Just wait.....
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Don't you think it's kinda early, and somewhat insensitive, to worry about buying powder and other components while this event is happening? At this moment, there's a madman running around Massachusetts who has killed innocent people - some of the wounded are from my town. This killer could theoretically be at my door at any time. With that in mind, I can tell you without doubt that there are many anti-gunners here in MA who wished they had a gun at this moment. I saw it during the 911 attacks - my neighbor, an anti, came to me saying he wanted a gun and he didn't care how he got it. When people are afraid as they are here now, they do turn to guns.
Chances are that there will be those who will try to restrict us further in the near future, but events like what's happening RIGHT NOW will open the minds of many.
 
Don't you think it's kinda early, and somewhat insensitive, to worry about buying powder and other components while this event is happening?
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Not really.

Remember, as distasteful as it might be to turn OUR minds to protecting our rights in this moment of grief and distress -- our own real and present enemies have ALREADY turned their minds to using this crime as a tool to further break down our rights.

THEY never sleep, they never stop and they have NO shame. So we can't allow ourselves the luxury of backing off, even if we're holding back tears.
 
I say it's pretty insensitive at this moment - did you worry about future airport searches and checks during the 911 attacks? We're under attack at this moment, and it's not from our politicians. That fight will come later, for sure.
But remember what I said - there are people right now, anti-gunners, huddled behind their doors, wishing they had a gun.
 
I say it's pretty insensitive at this moment
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And I disagree.

did you worry about future airport searches and checks during the 911 attacks?
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Yes. Your moment of deepest shock is the moment you're most vulnerable. If you allow yourself to be stunned into insensate inaction, you are lost.

We're under attack at this moment, and it's not from our politicians.
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DID YOU READ THE OPENING POST?

That fight will come later, for sure.
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That fight is NOW. Again, surely you must have read the opening post. The esteemed Senator from NJ has ALREADY launched his attack.

Please, I know you're hurting, but you've got to stand up and fight. This is not the time to lie on your face and indulge your sadness. A period of quiet grieving is not a luxury we have right now. If we do not fight, we'll be crushed.

But remember what I said - there are people right now, anti-gunners, huddled behind their doors, wishing they had a gun.
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Right. And we may pray that the terrible memory of that feeling haunts their days and nights until they join us and fight for their rights to defend themselves!
 
vtail said:
Waiting for a "news" story where they follow a reporter to buy a pressure cooker, black powder, nails, and a remote controlled toy to show how "easy" it is to assemble "bomb components".

Then they will scream out "Walmart sells everything you need to build a bomb!!"
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Well they do, not to mention materils that anyone with a bit of chemistry knowledge can put together causing more damage then these devices.
 
Here's the thing that I think we should have learned over the last four months: those that oppose civilian ownership of firearms are working on damn-near immediate responses to tragedies that can be tied to firearm ownership.

The goal is to pass oppressive legislation while emotions are still running hot. If this was another mall shooting I think we'd be looking at an attempt to pass "emergency legislation" AWB-style legislation before we even knew what sort of firearm had been used.

It's no longer about good taste. It's about amplifying the emotional response of the public to try and squeeze anti-gun legislation through congress. If we decline to speak out in the name of proper decorum, then the antis will be unopposed.

Now, we all know that a pressure cooker bomb doesn't care what you use inside it. It'll hold the pressure until that pressure exceeds its capacity, then it'll pop. Propellants work (including improvised sorts.) Water and a camp stove will work. Dry ice and a hot day will work, maybe with a can of Sterno underneath it for insurance. They'll all produce an approximately equivalent explosion.

Gunpowder legislation will do nothing to prevent this same kind of attack in the future. The question is whether they can generate enough emotion to pass some kind of legislation, because "we owe it to the victims" apparently.
 
Proposing a ban at this moment is not insensitive, it's ignorant, moronic, etc. We know that. My point is that this event will open the minds of people to the fact that laws and bans cannot protect us from bad guys. If "they" want to kill us, they will find ways. I am not lying on my face and indulging sadness - I'm hoping the SOB will knock on my door. We should be careful not to fall into the "woe is me" mindset at this time, for they will use that against us later.
 
Frank doesn't think so.
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Heck, Frank's dying of stomach cancer. If he can fight through that to try and push his agenda, surely we can fight just as hard even if doing so is distasteful.
 
If you were here, right now, behind a locked door with a liberal anti-gunner, and you asked them if they wanted a gun, they'd take it eagerly, or be glad for the one you had in your hand (the ones I know at least). But, if you complained about potential future bans on black powder (or whatever), you'd be called an <deleted>.
The fact that, right now, the government is telling people to stay indoors, lock their doors, don't open the door for anyone but a uniformed officer, will make many people think about who is responsible for their safety. I guess you could say that I'm being pretty insensitive in my statements but handing someone a gun for protection right now might make them see the truth about self defense.
 
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I say it's pretty insensitive at this moment - did you worry about future airport searches and checks during the 911 attacks? We're under attack at this moment, and it's not from our politicians. That fight will come later, for sure.
But remember what I said - there are people right now, anti-gunners, huddled behind their doors, wishing they had a gun.
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No. Not insensitive at all. Not when we have people like Rahm saying “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste;"

We know better now than we did back in '01.
 
I thought BP was already controlled, It's been years since I bought a can of 2F but I remember it was hard to get and I had to sign for it.

Smokeless powder is what I figured they'd go after, they can't have folks making their own ammo while they try to control ammo sales.
 
Since ammunition contains powder would this effectively make all ammo purchase require a background check?

The quote in the link just says explosive powder and does not specify quantity.
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BP is classified as an explosive legally, smokeless isnt.
 
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