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People are not smart. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been a panic in the first place.
Moreover, there can't be an indefinite panic demand for the ARs. The pocketbooks are not bottomless.
ARs prices are dropping like crazy
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Moreover, there can't be an indefinite panic demand for the ARs. The pocketbooks are not bottomless.
armedandsafe
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I don't really care for the AR platform. That said, I picked up a Mossberg 715T today at Big-5 for $302 out the door. It is .22LR with a 10 round magazine, but that is OK in my mind.
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morcey2
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Is the Microsoft stock a fixed or adjustable? If it's adjustable, does it rattle like some of the others?...but then again, I never bought any Microsoft stock, either.
(I'm a software engineer and I hate microsoft.)
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I've been calling it. Same thing's gwin happen wit ammo.
morcey2
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... which is why the ammo manufacturers did the right thing by not investing in new manufacturing capability based on a most-likely short-term panic.
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JVaughn
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Wait, are you guys confusing Walmart and Dick's sporting goods? Walmart oly said they were committed to the responsible sale of firearms, dicks pulled the AR's. I am pretty sure Walmart never did. Someone back me up or have other info?
TheSaint
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I know about Dick's move against AR's, can't speak to any Walmart policy on restricting the rifles. I've since boycotted Dicks and spread the word on them. Perhaps the other posters can provide some light on Walmart's policies regarding AR's? Is it a national thing, regional, or even store choice to sell them?
You are correct sir. No need to bash Walmart on the gun issue. Their meat department, separate issue.
You can find any number of AR's at Walmart, provided you get there at 4 AM. Just like all the rest.
TheSaint
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Interesting. At the Walmart I visited in CA, they don't sell any firearms, AR or not. Come to think of it, that would make a good question to ask of the store manager next time I'm in there.
That is impossible...you must be mistaken. After all...plenty of people loudly assured us that prices would NEVER come back down. They assured us that basic economic principles didn't apply here...that prices on these guns would only go up forever. Yes...you must have it all wrong.
They were probably the same folks that also said gold would keep going up in price forever...oh what a funny call that turned out to be.
They were probably the same folks that also said gold would keep going up in price forever...oh what a funny call that turned out to be.
The Saint,
Walmart doesn't sell firearms at all of their stores. It's expensive for them to maintain an FFL for each store that sells firearms, so they carefully select which locations can be profitable selling firearms at Walmart's "always" low prices. If a town has two stores, one may sell firearms while the other doesn't. If you have a store near you that does sell firearms, but they don't have the one you want, ask to see the catalog and what you want it is in the book, they can order it for you from a different store or from their warehouse.
Walmart doesn't sell firearms at all of their stores. It's expensive for them to maintain an FFL for each store that sells firearms, so they carefully select which locations can be profitable selling firearms at Walmart's "always" low prices. If a town has two stores, one may sell firearms while the other doesn't. If you have a store near you that does sell firearms, but they don't have the one you want, ask to see the catalog and what you want it is in the book, they can order it for you from a different store or from their warehouse.
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That's maybe the most astute thing I've seen on this forum. Kudos.
Hit the nation's Gun Show, today. We were early (they opened the doors well before the stated opening time. Lines were long for the reloading tables and cheap ammo guys. But the black rifles didn't seem to have much interest. I was surprised that on the first day a pile of M&P 15s that were selling at $1,700 last show (Jan) were marked down to $1,300. The only vender that didn't appear to have normal stock was the CZ vender (who normally has the entire CZ product line but had a few conspicuous items missing, P-01 and 85).
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MrClean, thank you very much for the valuable advice.
My local Walmart is the ONLY Walmart for over 60 miles around. I live in a fairly rural area of California, so going to another Walmart involves a long drive that may negate any cost savings of driving all around. What you said does make sense regarding FFL in general, but the area I live in is fairly conservative/pro gun compared to most parts of CA, which from strictly a business choice that seems odd to me.
Any other THR'ers from CA? Do any Walmart locations in this state sell AR's? I've seen others that sell guns, but they were limited to bolt-action rifles and shotguns.
My local Walmart is the ONLY Walmart for over 60 miles around. I live in a fairly rural area of California, so going to another Walmart involves a long drive that may negate any cost savings of driving all around. What you said does make sense regarding FFL in general, but the area I live in is fairly conservative/pro gun compared to most parts of CA, which from strictly a business choice that seems odd to me.
Any other THR'ers from CA? Do any Walmart locations in this state sell AR's? I've seen others that sell guns, but they were limited to bolt-action rifles and shotguns.
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Walmarts in CA do not sell firearms. They had some problems a decade ago with the state for violations and the result is they stopped selling entirely.
They paid a few million dollar fine, and temporarily suspended sales pending training of employees.
A decade later they still have not resumed sales.
Walmarts in CA do not sell firearms. They had some problems a decade ago with the state for violations and the result is they stopped selling entirely.
They paid a few million dollar fine, and temporarily suspended sales pending training of employees.
A decade later they still have not resumed sales.
AlexanderA
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I was there, too, and I agree with the assessment. Prices of AR's and 30-round magazines seem to be slowly coming down, and there was plenty of availability. The ammo supply was still spotty.
Ignition Override
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Over a week ago a pawn shop in West Point MS on Hwy 45 had at least four AR rifles in .223. The guns seen on Friday were still waiting on Monday.
They also had an AK-74 (5.45x39-IF the correct barrel is attached...not a 5.56) listed at $800.
Add to that the observation that the Memphis gun show had at least five ARs in .223 and it was very clear.
The only question for people who never planned ahead is when ammo will follow the ARs on an increasingly steeper downhill slide.
Though many of us planned ahead, watching the vast numbers of sellers sweat will be Schadenfreude.
They also had an AK-74 (5.45x39-IF the correct barrel is attached...not a 5.56) listed at $800.
Add to that the observation that the Memphis gun show had at least five ARs in .223 and it was very clear.
The only question for people who never planned ahead is when ammo will follow the ARs on an increasingly steeper downhill slide.
Though many of us planned ahead, watching the vast numbers of sellers sweat will be Schadenfreude.
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Chief, your wife sounds like one great lady, that attitude doesn't get more REAL American.Good news for me.
Personally, I've never been a fan of AR's. Just not my bag...don't like the looks of nearly any of them. A personal bias, not based on any performance issues to be sure.
My wife, however, has recently expressed a strong desire for one.
Why?
Not because she wants to go hunting or target shooting with one. Not because she particularly likes the rifles. Not because she wants one for home defense.
Nope. Not any of those reasons at all.
So why does she want one?
Because she has a problem with authority, bless her heart. She wants one because there are elements in our government who are telling her she CAN'T have one.
If there's one thing that will get her dander up it's either someone telling her she CAN'T do something or that she HAS to do something.
'Course, she told me she wanted one at the height of the price hikes, so buying one just then was totally out to lunch. Now that the prices are coming down, though, I'll be keeping an eye out for something just for her.
When the market is ripe, I expect I'll be asking some questions on this site about them, so bear with me when I do.
I hate to say how rare that is becoming.
breakingcontact
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At the local gun show, I noticed AR prices were about back to normal, with some good deals on higher end models. Colts were still high. Also, unacceptably high for me, were AKs. Romanian WASRs for $900? Say what?
RetiredUSNChief
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Oh, she's a rare find, that's for sure! I count her among my blessings.
She's a real personal challenge to deal with across a wide spectrum of issues, too, let me tell you. Like when we were living in base housing when I had shore duty...not only did her feathers get ruffled about some of the rules (because, you know...it's the military and there are rules which have to be followed), but she went totally ballistic when base security tightened up right after 9/11 and she had to show her ID just to get into base housing on the way home.
Heck, it was years before I could get her to wear a seatbelt when she drove, because she rebelled against seatbelt laws.
:banghead:
Bless her stubborn, red-headed, Irish heart.
308win
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Colt branded 30 round magazines are advertised at $19.95 at Vances in Columbus with a limit of 5; have been for a few weeks. They also have some brands of ARs at what seem like reasonable prices. I haven't priced ammunition nor shopped for reloading components for a long time. I wouldn't expect the Obama regime to allow any policies on ammunition imports or surplus stocks that will help firearms owners - just the opposite. Once ammunition stocks are replenished by the DOD (if necessary) the prices should come down if the market isn't manipulated or affected by government anti-firearms policies.
jolly roger
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I rebel against most regs meself being an Irish madman...but I will wear a seat belt...getting ejected out a vehicle in a wreck will do that to ya...and I learned early on too not to ride with crazy people...
FROGO207
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I am waiting for the ammo dealers to give away AR's with 30+ round MAG's to assure we keep buying lots of ammo in the future.
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