First person charged with too many bullets in gun under NY SAFE ACT

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I hope he fights this and wins.





http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/man_charged_with_too_many_bull.html





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Man charged with too many bullets in gun under NY Safe Act

May 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- State police have charged a 31-year-old Hudson Valley driver with a misdemeanor after he was pulled over and found with two more bullets in his handgun magazine than allowed under New York's new gun control law.

They say their investigation showed the semi-automatic on the passenger seat was a legally possessed but its magazine contained nine rounds, not seven as required since April 15.
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Driving with a suspended license isn't good, but it's not too bad luckily and would be considered minor. It's usually handled with a small fine.
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Once again, his troubles could have been totally avoided had he not drawn attention in the first place. It is wise for any citizen who is armed to keep a low profile; this means blending in, and not giving authorities reason to take notice.
 
jim in Anchorage said:
splithoof: He was pulled over for inadequate license plate lamp. You check yours every time you drive?
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Ooooooh SNAP!

Seriously though, I should check my license plate lamp for sufficient lumens. Note to self.
 
^^^^Jim;
I check every lamp, brake light, turn signal, headlamp, and tire pressure every sunday morning, and verify that the current registration sticker has not been tampered with or exterior lenses cracked EVERY DAY. You see, I reside in an area that is known for hyper enforcement of even the tiniest vehicle of equipment infraction, where revenue generation is the main objective of the local law enforcement, and citizens deal with very surley police. I have watched them do a pat-down on an 81 yo female, because she had a small chip in the windshield.
I stand by my statement of keeping a low profile.
 
jim in Anchorage said:
splithoof: He was pulled over for inadequate license plate lamp. You check yours every time you drive?
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I do check my drivers license everyday to make sure it is not suspended. I don't the the bad tag light nullified his DL.

If we are being honest, a person driving on a suspended DL is not making good choices. When he got it suspended and when he decided to keep on driving with it. The vast majority of the time you make your own luck. Chances are he is not the first person pulled over for a minor traffic offense who was violating the safe act. Why have we not read about those people? They make better life choices, whether that is concealing their weapon and/or keeping their DL valid
 
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Double Naught Spy said:
That isn't the whole story, though he may be the first charged that wasn't the only reason he was arrested from the sounds of it...
https://www.nyspnews.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=30582

He was also charged with Aggravated Unlicensed Operation of a Motor Vehicle 3rd Degree, for which he could have been arrested as well.
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I've been charged with Aggravated Unlicensed Operation of a Motor Vehicle 3rd Degree twice in Ny.
Both times my fines were already paid but the system was not updated to reflect this.
The charges were dismissed both times even though it was a great inconvenience for me since I'm from out of state.
Ny probably has the most antiquated system for reporting the payment of motor vehicle fines.
It is very possible that he had paid his fine in some small court in the middle of nowhere and the information was never forwarded to Albany to be entered into the system.

Either way he's pooched.
 
I do check my drivers license everyday to make sure it is not suspended. I don't the the bad tag light nullified his DL.
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And how do you do that? Call DMV first thing in the morning before you drive? DL's can be suspended for back child support, and you may or may not know it happened.

Bit surprised the straw man DL argument came up here. The real issue is he's facing a weapons charge for having 9 in clip.
 
The 7 good 8 bad law is like many others, it is a piling on offense.
They are not going around checking magazines (yet) but if the snag you on it while pursuing something else, they always like a multitude of charges so they can be sure of a conviction on something or another.
 
jim in Anchorage said:
And how do you do that? Call DMV first thing in the morning before you drive? DL's can be suspended for back child support, and you may or may not know it happened.

Bit surprised the straw man DL argument came up here. The real issue is he's facing a weapons charge for having 9 in clip.
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Well, I pay my child support (been doing it every month for 15 years) I also pay the rare speeding ticket I get. I do not put myself in a position to have my DL suspended

Not defending the safe act here, but the man obviously made a SERIES of bad choices.
 
Again, a straw man argument. The valid DL is not relevant here. He was pulled over for a chicken <removed> reason and is now looking at a weapons charge for having 9 instead of 7.
Let's stick to the subject here. Not you're perfect driving record.
 
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I got stoped about 18 years ago for tread depth, (yes the cops around here are board, no real crime here!) he just gave me a waring ,but when he ran my DL it came back canceled ??? I said what ? he said he didn't know , he check twice , they said cancelled ? not revoked, exp. or suspended, ? turned out my X-wife had bounced a check (or a bunch, I forget ) at the same time I renewed my license , so when my check to the DMV bounce they cancelled it , so as for this guys DL ? did he know ? hard telling . maybe , but did he know the new law on 7 rounds ? sometimes when a new law is put on the books , it is months before you have to worry about it , I think some of the new laws in CO don't start tell July. ,maybe he heard they were fighting it and thoght it was on hold tell then, ?? eather way is this guy a real BAD GUY ? I think not , this is just another bad gun law that will make good folks look bad ,:mad:
 
I got stoped about 18 years ago for tread depth, (yes the cops around here are board, no real crime here!) he just gave me a waring ,but when he ran my DL it came back canceled ??? I said what ? he said he didn't know , he check twice , they said cancelled ? not revoked, exp. or suspended, ? turned out my X-wife had bounced a check (or a bunch, I forget ) at the same time I renewed my license , so when my check to the DMV bounce they cancelled it , so as for this guys DL ? did he know ? hard telling . maybe , but did he know the new law on 7 rounds ? sometimes when a new law is put on the books , it is months before you have to worry about it , I think some of the new laws in CO don't start tell July. ,maybe he heard they were fighting it and thoght it was on hold tell then, ?? eather way is this guy a real BAD GUY ? I think not , this is just another bad gun law that will make good folks look bad ,
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Yep. Some how this guy driving on a Suspeded lesinse and a dim LP bulb puts him in the many bad choices category. So he just asked to get busted for too many rounds in his clip.
The whole gun thing seems to have been lost on this thread.
 
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Maybe im an (censored) but if i lived in NY i would make it a point to always have 100 mags with 7 rds in them. I really dont care if it had to be in a backpack.... moronic law.
 
Maybe im an (censored) but if i lived in NY i would make it a point to always have 100 mags with 7 rds in them. I really dont care if it had to be in a backpack.... moronic law.
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I have many friends in upstate NY, all gun owners and I talk to them often.
To a man, non compliance is their course of action.
 
It goes to show you that not all police officers are on our side. There are many cops that would have overlooked that. They will not enforce these stupid new laws. Some will and they are the ones you gotta watch out for.
 
who cares the NY troopers are very pro 2nd amendment this was just a rogue cop they are on our side. yea right
 
Again, a straw man argument. The valid DL is not relevant here. He was pulled over for a chicken <removed> reason and is now looking at a weapons charge for having 9 instead of 7.
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He was pulled over for 100% valid reasons as per the traffic laws. These included both a vehicle infraction and a traffic infraction.
https://www.nyspnews.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=30582

Gregory Dean, Jr.'s gun wasn't concealed and was spotted by cops. He was driving with a suspended license and well as the Safe Act violation. If you are going to drive around with a car out of legal spec and violate traffic laws, you will get noticed. As is often the case when this happens, cops made additional discoveries that Dean wasn't fully above board. I would file this under being stupid enough to get caught.
 
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