Self Defense Knife

A tiny knife ring? I can't really understand how that would be used.

A tiny knife ring? I can't really understand how that would be used.

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I can. Small blades have their place; generally this means the assailant discovers you have it after he sees his own blood.

So this is the gadget the OP is talking about?

A more useful tool would have been a Kiradashi.

Check out this link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=687185&highlight=kiradashi

Sam Cade said:

So this is the gadget the OP is talking about?

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Yeah... I imagine you're supposed to swipe at the opponent with it. Don't swipe the wrong direction!

I can't see that being useful at all, if you're that close your in trouble. If someone is attacking your sister and see it, the first thing they're gonna do is go for that arm.

I see that thing pissing off someone to the extent of really wanting to do more harm to your sister if cut by that during an attack. You would really have to make a good first hit with it, after that the other person is going to come with full rage. I would rather have a knife with a bigger blade to inflict more damage, repeatedly.

Yo Mama said:

A more useful tool would have been a Kiradashi.

Check out this link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=687185&highlight=kiradashi

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That is something of an understatement.

I've been exclusively using and testing a Daily Kiri for a small EDC for 5 months. I haven't carried a folder since I received it and I have zero desire to ever carry a folder again.



It isn't perfect, but it is a big step along the path toward a brutally rationalized, hype free pure performance knife.

Sam,
I can see that little knife inflicting massive wounds really fast, how well is the retention with the paracord handle?

50 Shooter said:

Sam,
I can see that little knife inflicting massive wounds really fast

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It is pretty nasty on test media, especially for it's size. Frankly I'm amazed that it didn't lose its (very thin) tip during testing. Its 440C with a Bos HT. I guess the man really does know his bid'ness.

50 Shooter said:

, how well is the retention with the paracord handle?

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Good. The twist wrap gives good texture and the pommel kicks out slightly and gives purchase.

But....(and this is just the nature of the beast) the grip is quite thin and the wrap will slide a bit no matter how tightly it is done. Grip is definitely the Lim-Fac.

DEET has nearly killed this wrapping, the replacement will be epoxy doped and sand rolled. That should improve retention somewhat.



Hmmm..... I'll start a thread on this thing later this evening so we don't derail the OP. Much.

Sam how well does that conceal though? I have a folder for EDC because I just want it in my pocket tucked away but ready. How does the sheath work with that?

I haven't carried a folder since I received it and I have zero desire to ever carry a folder again.

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Sadly some of us don't get to make that choice. But I still love the design (the Kiri, not the ring knife).

For folks who've never used a knife on the street (or who've never been on the scene of cuttings, stabbings, etc.)............ there are a few basic principles to consider -if you're ever serious about defending, up close and personal, with a blade.

I was taught by my father years ago that the first problem with knives of any kind is that you have to get entirely too close to someone who may really, really want to do you some damage... (my Dad was career Army with 28 years from ww2 all the way through two tours in VN). There are times, though, when circumstances require an armed response without a firearm since you just don't have one with you or can't get to one...

I'll stop right here since the rest of this needs to be learned and trained for to be properly prepared-- for actually having to use a blade. I can say from talking to victims and witnesses of blade incidents (from minor all the way to knifing victim dying right in front of you despite any efforts to save them....) that most involved never saw the blade even as it was being used... Most witnesses of knife incidents reported the subject "punching" the victim. On the other end of the spectrum though nothing puts off an attacker like finding out, up close, that an intended victim actually has a knife....

This thread has great educational value.




Also, finger knives that are actually intended for cutting stuff:

I'm going to rush right out and order one for each finger.

It's easy to underestimate a small inconspicuous blade. After a short session with Leslie Buck at Polite Society 2012 that's not a mistake I'm likely to make. Some of the blades demonstrated there were literally just steel spurs for fighting chickens, modified to fit a human finger.

What makes the difference, as is so often the case, is training, practice and experience. Ours is not so much what I would consider 'a blade culture' compared to some others in the world, though Americans do use blades and have contributed some distinctly American blades to the world's assortment of cutlery.

That said, as John mentioned earlier, I'd think a grip/handle/whatever that allowed the use of two fingers rather than just one in that sort of design would be much more practical. And there are blades like that available...

I just carry a Mora.