Are you buying ammo at higher than market prices?

I have not with the exception of 10 boxes of WSP primers that were $3.99 each. That is higher than I expect to pay for primers, but there they were on the shelf at Academy (our sports store) and I couldn't walk past them for fear...well, you know.

I have continued to purchase Russian steel 7.62x39 at up to $5.99 on the 20 box. This is double what it was a few years ago, but still a bargain in my opinion.

Not buying anything at "panic" prices.

I'm not.
I've paid a LITTLE more for components (I've paid $40 for 1k primers), but if it started approach the price of factory ammo I'd stop loading until it came back around too.

People paying significantly more than MSRP for ammo are enabling the scalpers. The scalpers are not the problem. The people who buy from them are the main threat to most shooters. They are causing the price to skyrocket and establishing a much higher new normal.

Nobody has any real "need" of .22's, unless their defensive weapons are all just .22lr. The airsoft or laserlyte device will do what a .22 will do. The lack of blast/recoil of the .22 makes it just "not much" when it comes to being a training aid. It's just not that big a jump from Airsoft or dryfire to the wussy-loaded 9mm WW ball, except maybe in a pocket 9. You can learn a ton of useful things from airsoft or .177 practice, including things that you can't learn from live ammo. The money saved on trips to the range, range fees, and overpriced ammo, (by using Airsoft), can be invested in stripped Lower AR's at discount prices. That's one of the safest investments you can find.

I did for a while. It was to maintain my stores for what I shoot. I like to have a few hundred rounds for all of my calibers at the ready. Now I'm putting my money into reloading but trying to be much more smart about prices I'll pay for components.

I think the point of the thread is to see who is helping maintain the current market prices... I would say I was guilty of it for a while, but am over it now.

For example, i just picked up a winchester 100 rd pack of 9mm at Wally World for $26.00 and left the other packs for someone else. I could have easily picked up the max of 3 boxes, but didn't really need it.

then i stopped by my closest LGS and saw 100 round CCI .22LR for $30 and just laughed. That tells me people are still paying that much. I don't really like the shop at all, but i was bored so i stopped by. the guy running it isn't stupid, he probably knows someone will pay that premium price at some point.

jr_watkins said:

I have not with the exception of 10 boxes of WSP primers that were $3.99 each. That is higher than I expect to pay for primers...

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Slightly off topic, but was just in Cabela's and as usual first stop was the reloading area to see what kind of powder is on the shelf. 1,000 CCI small pistol primers for $44.95!!! Almost soiled myself.

Yes I have, .22 long rifle.
Paid close to 10 cents a round vs. 3-4 cents a round in the past.
I shoot in a couple of leagues, need ammo to shoot and don't have
time or inclination to wander all over looking for ammo.
We're talking about 3500-4000 rounds over the last year.
Dave

1,000 CCI small pistol primers for $44.95!!! Almost soiled myself.

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Yeah, that is pretty bad, but not nearly as bad as it was at some points -- and it sure beats no primers at all! (And...it's Cabela's. Not gonna find a good deal there. You've got to pay for the huge animal displays somehow!)

Truth be told, if I was completely out of primers and really needed them, I'd have simply paid that much. Or decided I didn't need them.

That's supply and demand.

The last 2500 rounds of 22lr I've bought is running nearly 15 cents a round when you include shipping costs.

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I can do math well enough in my head to get in the ballpark, but I was doubting myself...until I grabbed the calculator.

That is $82.50 for a 550 rd box.
Better you than me.

Fifteen cents a round for .22LR? I can load .45acp (.45LC. .41 Mag, and if I work at it, .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .380, 9mm, 10mm) for about twelve cents a round.

In case that didn't give it away...no. I have not bought any ammo at all for quite some time. Just components.

What is the point of this thread exactly?

The only reason that I can think of to buy ammo at higher than "market price" is... well there really is no reason unless you need it right away and don't have the time or patience to shop around.

I've been paying .25/round for 9MM FMJ and .38/round for brass cased 223/556 delivered to my door. That's not quite pre-panic, but it is far better than it was so I'm not complaining.

Primers were $15 per thousand when gas was ?$120 per gallon. If the components just kept up with inflation, primers should be $35 per 1000. So 5c a primer aint that out of line, at all. If you want a better price, order 100,000 of them, that's all. You can always sell them for more than you paid.

If you buy it, that is the market price; the very definition of market. Your question should be "would you buy it at higher than MSRP?

Nope

Not ammo, but I now pay 50% more for primers. Ugh.

I just ordered 500rds of 115gr Speer Lawman 9mm at $30/100rds + shipping.

Yes - ideally I would get WWB 115gr for $23 at the local Walmart... but I'm tired of going there just to see empty shelves....

I want to know, why still so called ammo shortage . This been going on a year now . I would have thought the ammo company's would have caught up. My wal mart has shot gun shells and some rifle . No real popular calibers. only 22 I have seen is 22 short. and a 2 box limit. I complaint to manager and he says that they get what sent them. That all . My dealer he's buying Russian ammo that I won't use or these high priced magic bullets That cost you 50 bucks to load a 1911. Again says that all he can get Forget 22

I have always had some stored ammo for when I want to shoot or just in case. But now I won't even shoot that can't replace. I will save it for the revolution.

I got a reloading press for Christmas and bought some primers at a LGS for $45 for 1000. I didn't realize it was that bad of a price, I was just happy to find them, as it gave me a chance to use my press.
Paul

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Slightly off topic, but was just in Cabela's and as usual first stop was the reloading area to see what kind of powder is on the shelf. 1,000 CCI small pistol primers for $44.95!!! Almost soiled myself.

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Hahaha, Cabela's…I like them and all, but if it's like most everything else they sell, I wouldn't be surprised if the primers weren't microstamped with their logo, hence the pricing...lol.

So the scalpers who are selling ammo at inflated prices that they purchased from retails outlets are setting the market value?

Using this logic the big box retail stores have no idea what the market value is.

OOOOOOOOOOOOoooooKAY

Pigs fly too.

I buy almost no factory ammo but I recently bought 4,000 rounds of 22 TMC for a new Rock Island pistol. The price was normal for this round.

Seeing the writing on the wall when obama first came on the scene I bought many thousands of rounds of Wal Mart 550 22LR bulk packs at $17-$19.

And stocked up on thousands of primers and bullets to reload.
During the last shortage I got down to 10,000 small pistol primers. I said that won't happen again.

1,000 CCI small pistol primers for $44.95!!! Almost soiled myself.

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At the last gun show I lucked on a case (5,000) of large Pistol primers for $125. I would have bought a couple more cases but that's all he had.



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Not a chance! I reload every caliber I shoot except 22’s. Fortunately, I have a decent supply of everything I need for the next few years.

Nope, don't need to. The pair of SKS have become my ".22LR" so to speak. 7.62x39 is at .22/round.

Buying three small 50-rd. boxes of .22LR in November from a retail shop in Clarkesville TN induced a little guilt, having only 3 & 1/2 bricks from before the panic. I won't even use .22LR until approx. late June, when wearing hearing protectors needed for centerfire ammo causes sweat to run into one's eyes with Memphis heat/humidity. These protectors are not worn around my .22 rifles.

We all know about Walmart-but how about at the Other Places such as Dick's or Academy? There must be a general "market rate" for a 50-rd. box of lower-priced brands such as Federal, Win. etc.

Is the overall (Non-Walmart, retail) still about 3 times the pre-panic price?

Short answer: nope. I haven't bought any overpriced ammo and don't plan to. Stocked up on ammo over the years and haven't had as many chances to get to the range so I'm not using much if any these days.

Haven't bought ammunition in at least two years now.
I stocked up when the prices were far lower, knowing that it was not going to go down.


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I got a reloading press for Christmas and bought some primers at a LGS for $45 for 1000. I didn't realize it was that bad of a price, I was just happy to find them, as it gave me a chance to use my press.
Paul

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And as many have already stated, this determines market price. If I didn't already have a supply of primers, I would have purchased some from Cabela's. Same with 22 ammo.
Have fun reloading Paul!! It will become a hobby of it's own!