Fighting father time: best mini-reflex sites for the money

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Reflex and hoolgraphic sights project the aimpoint or reticle to infinity. This is a godsend for presbyopia (the inability to change focal length with advancing age).

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I love the Burris Fast Fire III and I own 4 of them but they are too expensive to keep multiple units sighted in on multiple guns/uppers. What other options are out there that won't break the bank to buy a half dozen of them?

Mike
 
I don't understand. Any scope with an AO is easy for even the most presbyopic sufferers. First adjust the focus of the reticle then adjust the AO to the shooting distance. That focuses both the reticle and target the same to our eyes. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the question... that does happen a lot these days.:)
 
Agreed on Primary Arms. I like their microdot. For $100 each, they are a good value.
 
I don't understand. Any scope with an AO is easy for even the most presbyopic sufferers. First adjust the focus of the reticle then adjust the AO to the shooting distance. That focuses both the reticle and target the same to our eyes. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the question... that does happen a lot these days.
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Besides the fact that he just asked for mini dots, I would have still recommended a dot-type optic (whether it be a 1x, or something like a Mueller 1-4x with a simple dot, or a Leupold Fire Dot, etc). If he can see and focus on his target, the dot will just be "seen" on top of it.
 
I know he asked about red dots but it isn't clear whether he's interested in them because he prefers them or because he's unaware of how to adjust a standard scope.:)
 
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I know he asked about red dots but it isn't clear whether he's interested in them because he prefers them or because he's unaware of how to adjust a standard scope.:)
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So much snark of one "helpful" post.

Perhaps...just perhaps the OP occasionally shoots at targets not courteous enough to stand still and wait for him to "adjust a standard scope" for their range
 
Well, I didn't mean anything I wrote to be snarky. I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I wasn't implying anything negative at all. Some folks really don't know how to adjust a scope. Nothing wrong with that. I was just trying to offer an alternative to red dots that the OP may not have realized is feasible for his needs.
 
When somone asks a question or makes a statement it is customary to interperate it in a way that makes sense. Although I am pretty sure I have never dated a man I have a strange feeling that I may have dated the other Mike.

I have several scopes and know perfectly well how to use them. You only need to set focus once on a scope once because the reticle is at the focal point which is optically equivilent to being at infinity. Some also have a parralex adjustment as well but this has nothing to do with focal distance.

I am looking for recomendatons for micro red-dots for applications where I would have used iron sights when younger such as on handguns and light carbines/SBRs. Applications where a scope or my EOTech would be too heavy/bulky.

Specifically I am looking for open "screen type" units and not Aimpoint-like "tube" units.

The Fastfire is a great unit. Unfortunately it is becoming annoying moving mine from gun to gun and re zeroing. I use the 3 MOA version on carbines and handguns and the 8 MOA on shotguns. In theory the 8 MOA would be great for handguns but in practice it is much brighter than the 3 MOA model and there is annoying glare reflected from the edges of the glass. These are shielded from the eye when close but an issue when held at handgun distance.

I have several guns where the huge recoil tolorance of the Burris is not needed. Also, some of my guns are only for target use and the 4-year on battery life is not needed. Ae the $89 or even $49 units any good?

Mike
 
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Well, I didn't mean anything I wrote to be snarky. I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I wasn't implying anything negative at all. Some folks really don't know how to adjust a scope. Nothing wrong with that. I was just trying to offer an alternative to red dots that the OP may not have realized is feasible for his needs.
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I'm not offended but I have no idea why you would go off on that tangent to begin with. Is it because I mentioned I have 4 reflex sights? I was actually wrong, I have 5 reflex sights, one holographic sight, 1 magnifier, and 11 conventional scopes (not counting spotting scopes).

Mike
 
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I'm not offended but I have no idea why you would go off on that tangent to begin with. Is it because I mentioned I have 4 reflex sights? I was actually wrong, I have 5 reflex sights, one holographic sight, 1 magnifier, and 11 conventional scopes (not counting spotting scopes).

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No, it's because it wasn't clear that you are "only" interested in red dots. The original post can easily be interpreted that you believed a reflex or holo sight are your "only" alternatives. I was only trying to offer you another choice. I intended no offense and wasn't trying to derail your thread.
 
Here are some in the price range I am looking for (100 or under) I am interested in from low to high:
NcStar Tactical (or Zombie or Rogue)
Firefield
AIM Sports (mult models)
Browning Buckmark
Sightmark Sureshot
Pentax Gameseeker
American Tactical
TrueGlo
BSA
Barska
Weaver
Swift Optics
Osprey
Leatherwood
Sun Optics
Mueller Optical

I would prefer to buy multiple units of one model that meets my needs due to familiarity and single battery type.

Mike
 
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No, it's because it wasn't clear that you are "only" interested in red dots. The original post can easily be interpreted that you believed a reflex or holo sight are your "only" alternatives. I was only trying to offer you another choice. I intended no offense and wasn't trying to derail your thread.
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Now I'm sure we've dated, possibly in a prior life!

Mike
 
Red Dot

I have a Trijicon RMR, J-Point, Aim Point, Pentax. These all work well. Of all these the Trijicon is by far the best. I also currently have a NC Star and another brand (name escapes me and I don't feel like going to the safe). That are fairly useless.

I have tried probably 10 cheap micro Red Dot sights. It's total hit or miss with most of them working properly. Most have so much "slack" in the sighting machinery that movements are erratic. Thus extremely hard to sight in. This varies from unit to unit in the same brand. On one brand I purchased/traded for 3 and only one was acceptable. On the Pentax I purchased one and it worked OK. However I gave another new one to a friend for a gift and it did not work at all.

Also, one of the biggest problems I have had is dot flare. Many of the cheap ones are USELESS for precision shooting at any distance. They are just too bright and have way too much flare. I just purchased an NC Star and it has so much flare and is so bright it's pitiful. For precision shooting you need a dim, precise, dot. The Pentax is infinitely adjustable for brightness and works well - if it works. They are large though (but not heavy).

Conclusion. I TOO AM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO RECOMMEND A RED DOT THAT'S CHEAP AND WORKS.
 
I know how a lot of (most?) people feel about it, but the last Recoil magazine had a pretty decent comparison of mini-dots. Most of them were probably higher on the price scale than what you're looking for, but from what I remember, there were some less expensive models as well. It might give you a good comparison of features you're looking for.

I think the heavy favorite for the $100 range is the Primary Arms. There are some others mentioned that are pretty good for the price.

You probably know, but stay as far away as possible from NC STAR. You might as well put a bead on the muzzle and aim your rifle like a shotgun.
 
I'm taking a good hard look at the Primary Arms MD series. Does anyone have experience with those (MD-06, MD-06L, MD-08, MD-FBGII)?

Mike
 
TON'S of fantastic reviews about the PA micro's. Browse around some AR forums, a lot of guys use them because they use Aimpoint T1/H1 mounts, and because PA has excellent customer service.
 
just bought one of the new bushnells. It looks the exact same as a primary arms one my buddy has and cost about the same too so im guess there probably made on the same assembly line.
 
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