Concealed Carry Permit Hassles (or not?) based on State

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I renewed my Concealed Carry Permit in Pennsylvania today and I am happy to report that there were no real hassles at all. I changed county residency in the last 5 yrs, so it was considered a new application and not a renewal. $20, one photo ID, a completed form, and 19 minutes of my time, including going to the wrong court building initially and I have my permit slated to be mailed and arrive in 2 to 6 weeks. So, no hassles at all, and I think it is cheaper now than it was 5 yrs ago (something like $31 or $39 then).

Other states (Commonwealths) may not be so hassle-free, I have heard. What are your experiences?

Oh, very importantly -- a Concealed Carry permit IS required in Pennsylvania if you transport a weapon anywhere in a vehicle -- to the range, up the road to hunt a neighbor's lot, to travel to the local gun show and set up a table. Not everyone in Pennsylvania may be aware of this.
 
Washington state is shall issue.
Just renewed mine.
$35 and a very short form.
They mailed it to me in about a week.
No big deal.
Washington does not require any training or testing to get a permit.
 
To the OP: Now let me get this straight: In order for me as an out of state resident going to Penn to hunt, with a valid and current out-of-state hunting license, I must have a CCW permit to have my deer rifle cased, unloaded, and in the trunk of my vehicle on the way to where I am going to legally hunt?
If anyone else has knowledge of this please comment in addition.
 
Texas laws have changed recently, so I'm not fully up on them at the moment.

For my first CHL application in 2008 it took 5 months between sending in the application (after taking the 8 hour course) and receipt of the license via mail.

For my CHL renewal in 2012 it took 3 months between sending in the application (after taking the 4 hour renewal course) and receipt of the license via mail.
 
I don't know about out of state individuals in Pennsylvania, but I was told today that, at the very least, transportation of a firearm by a Pennsylvanian within Pennsylvania requires a Concealed Carry Permit. At least if you have ammunition with you in the vehicle. I am not sure about a firearm being transported without ammunition.
 
Texas laws have changed recently, so I'm not fully up on them at the moment.
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Recently renewed mine for the 5th time.

Some changes are,
6 hours total time for class and shooting.
Class and written test is cut way down.
They use your old picture and prints they already have on file (if you are renewing).

I got my new license in less than a month.
 
Other states (Commonwealths) may not be so hassle-free, I have heard. What are your experiences?
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When I first got my license (I think it was about 1994?) I was really against the cost and the two days it took to do something I believe is our right to do.

Since then I've changed my mind somewhat. Some of the people carrying guns is frightening.
At my last renewal two people loaded the rounds in their magazines backwards.

The Texas shooting qualification is so easy I passed it shooting with my eyes closed (not the actual qualification but on my home range) and people are all over that target. I'd hate to be a bystander if they opened up.

Many people don't even shoot their guns at all during the years between qualification.

So now, if it was up to me there would be a little more "hassle" (shooting practice) to get a CHL.
 
Is that for a first timer?
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Yes, we had three new people in the class. Only difference was they had to get their picture and prints.


On the third renewal, do we have to take a class again? I thought I remember not having to take a class for the third (or more) time to renew.
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You get a 'free" renewal, I think, on the 3rd or 4th renewal.
I had taken my paperwork only renewal the last time, so I had to do the class and shooting this time and it's good to 2019.
 
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splithoof said:
To the OP: Now let me get this straight: In order for me as an out of state resident going to Penn to hunt, with a valid and current out-of-state hunting license, I must have a CCW permit to have my deer rifle cased, unloaded, and in the trunk of my vehicle on the way to where I am going to legally hunt?
If anyone else has knowledge of this please comment in addition.
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no this only applies to handguns. ammo and gun must be separated . Cannot have a load handgun in or on acomment in addition. " vehicle unless you have a license to carry. rifle has to be unloaded. It took me 20 minutes from the time i turn in the application until i had my ltcf in my hand .Orpington what county are you in? the license in PA WAS $25.00FOR 5 YEARS ,if you paid $31.00 or $39.00 you got ripped off , what county were you in before you moved?
 
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NY is may issue and judges in some counties put their own "hunting and target" restrictions on them. There was no renewal but that changed with the SAFE act. Now it's supposed to be a 5-year renewal but the details haven't been sorted out.
 
orpington said:
Oh, very importantly -- a Concealed Carry permit IS required in Pennsylvania if you transport a weapon anywhere in a vehicle -- to the range, up the road to hunt a neighbor's lot, to travel to the local gun show and set up a table. Not everyone in Pennsylvania may be aware of this.
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I am not a lawyer, but either you misunderstood something or someone is giving you bad information. Here's the relevant statute—you want section 6106.

First, the PA License to Carry Firearms only applies to handguns. "Firearms" are defined in the statute as follows:

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.
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And loaded is defined as:

"Loaded." A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the nondetachable magazine or, in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm. If the magazine is inserted into a pouch, holder, holster or other protective device that provides for a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition, then the pouch, holder, holster or other protective device shall be deemed to be a separate compartment.
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Long arms are dealt with in 6106.1—they may never be carried loaded (unless you are police/military/etc) but do not require any kind of license to transport unloaded. Splithoof, this section would cover your rifle.

Second, 6106 (b) lists a series of exceptions to the requirement for a license, among them transporting an unloaded weapon for target practice:

(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
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Or to take it to the gun store, gunsmith, etc:

(8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
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open carry is also legal in Pa, unless you are in Philly ,,then you need a license to carry a firearm.
 
Let's see, in Arizona, first you need to buy a gun, a holster and some ammunition. And a good belt. And then you are good to go. Concealed or open. In the car, not in the car. Constitutional carry is great!

Should you feel the need for a permit, that is pretty easy as well.
 
in a vehicle it would concealed, would it ?didn't say you could have it loaded in a vehicle.
 
M2 Carbine said:
When I first got my license (I think it was about 1994?) I was really against the cost and the two days it took to do something I believe is our right to do.

Since then I've changed my mind somewhat. Some of the people carrying guns is frightening.
At my last renewal two people loaded the rounds in their magazines backwards.

The Texas shooting qualification is so easy I passed it shooting with my eyes closed (not the actual qualification but on my home range) and people are all over that target. I'd hate to be a bystander if they opened up.

Many people don't even shoot their guns at all during the years between qualification.

So now, if it was up to me there would be a little more "hassle" (shooting practice) to get a CHL.
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And yet in none of the states that require no training or class (or even a permit) do we have any blood flowing in the streets due to the lack of requirements.
 
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You can conceal in the car, or open carry in the car. Glovebox or console. Loaded or not. Doesn't matter legally, although common sense still matters.
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to carry a loaded handgun in or on, a vehicle in PA.you must have a license to carry.
 
Bubba15301 -- In 2009, when I first got my license for 5 years and paid over $30.00 for it, it was in Lackawanna County. Now, about that time, there was a lot of corruption going on in that County. I know that the county is notoriously corrupt. That could explain the increased fee.
 
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And yet in none of the states that require no training or class (or even a permit) do we have any blood flowing in the streets due to the lack of requirements.
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I've seen things like M2 mentioned at CHL shooting qualifications. It's weird, it's like a CHL class brings out a couple shooters with no experience or who never ever practice. Perhaps the guns are new and untried?

I see less fumbling at the range on a personal outing than I have seen at my only two CHL classes.
 
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