(I'm posting this under competition forum instead of rifle as it is more geared to answering some questions about training regimen and skill degredation)
So life got too busy this year, and I had to cut back on range trips / practice sessions this year. I've been focusing most of my energy and time on pistol shooting this year, and only packed a rifle to the range twice - last time was in February.
Well, here it is July now, and decided to try to chip off some rust on the old High Power "across the course" game. I took some standard targets to the range last night and ran through a pair of 80 shot courses at 200 / 300 yards (using reduced size targets for 300 yards.)
The first course I ran through was right handed. I've been having some serious vision issues with my right eye (I think need a new eyeglass prescription), so I also ran through the high power regional course again left handed.
The big questions I wanted to answer is "how bad am I with iron sights with my bad eye vs. good eye, and how bad will I be shooting left handed, where I've had zero practice, but better vision."
In the past I've consistently shot expert level on good days, sharpshooter on not so good days.
This practice session I did last night ... was very disconcerting though.
I'd just built a couple AR-15's and decided to take the top one out.
It's not really an ideal rifle for testing but I wanted to run it through it's paces since it was a fresh build, see if there were any hiccups. The rifle has a mid-weight 16" barrel, midwest industries mid length freefloat tube, and MI flip up emergency sights (I replaced the front post with an .050"). It sports a standard DPMS lower parts kit with a trigger pull coming in at about 5.5 lbs. Not exactly a match rifle, but lightweight (weighs 6.75 lbs).
Was shooting white box Prvi Partizan 5.56 ammo. Ammo and rifle functioned flawlessly, but it's not exactly match grade ammo or handloads. I figured for positional shooting and practice it'd be "good enough." (Certainly the ammo is more accurate than I am at this point... !)
I was not using a shooting coat, sling, or glove. (90 degrees and I don't like using shooting aids while practicing.)
For the timed rapid fire stages I just used a stopwatch on my phone.
Anyway that's the end of the setup ...
First round was sitting rapid fire. Went both left and right eye.
200 yards sitting rapid fire (right eye)
200 yards sitting rapid fire (LEFT eye)
Same score.... ???
That was surprising.
Made a 1/4 turn sight adjustment on my front sight post following these (the emergency flip up rear sight had no elevation adjustment, so I decided to zero the rifle at 200 yards and use kentucky windage for the 300 yard stage...)
Next strings were standing 200 yards slow fire.
Right handed 69/100
Left handed 76/100
Obviously a little out of practice, the scores here were disappointing. Usually without a coat I'm in the mid 80's. But what really surprised me is that I did better with my weak side than my strong side, considering I'd never even attempted shooting left handed standing before...
Following this I did a quick eye dominance check. My right eye has been so blurry lately I had a suspicion that I'd switched, and sure enough, with my glasses ON, my left eye was dominant. With my glasses OFF, on closer objects, my right eye was dominant, while on further objects, my left eye was dominant... kind of a head scratcher, but it makes sense, my brain is using the eye that can see better in any given situation.
Anyway moving on to 300 yards... ugh.
Rapid fire prone 300 yards.
Clearly there's some issue here... and it's not the gun.
(Yes I know I'm supposed to use an SR-3C center here but didn't feel like wasting any, just shot the SR target unaltered at 300)
There's 4 strings there, 2 left handed, 2 right handed, none of which I'd want to write home to Mom about (although clearly I'm ok with showing my poor shooting skills in public for the entire world to see haha).
Averaged about 70/100 on rapid fire prone 300. My scores were so poor I didn't bother wasting ammo on the MR63 target on slowfire.
Last week in a sporting rifle match I shot back to back prone 200 yard scores of 152/200 and 146/200 with this rifle. My eyes suck.
The further out I go the worse it is. At 300 yards when I focus my eye on the front sight with either eye, the target doesn't just blur out, it VANISHES completely. In order to align the sight I'd have to open both eyes and focus on the 300 yard target (to see it), then have to remember that spot and switch focus to my front sight (whereas the target simply vanishes completely in a brown blur that is indistinguishable from the backstop / stand / etc).
At 200 yards at least I have a fuzzy blob of gray to shoot at, where the bull was, when I focus on the front sight.
I repeated the sitting and standing scores again after this, giving up on 300 yards.
Rapid fire Sitting, right eye, 200 yards
96/100 - that's more like it. Substantial improvement over my first string. Not cleaning the target like last year but also back up to where I need to be to hit expert scores.
Rapid fire Sitting, left eye, 200 yards
89/100. Not as good as I was right handed but not too far off. I think I have a cheek weld / sight alignment issue when I shoot left handed (it feels SOOOO WRONG). But I can see the target more clearly so it almost washes.
I redid the standing shooting again but forgot to snap pics, as I was getting chased off the range by a pop up thunderstorm. Ended up with 86/100 right eye 200 yard standing slowfire, and 81/100 left eye.
So ended up shooting 2 80Rc courses minus the 300 yard prone slowfire stages (which would have been pointless, given how bad I was shooting at 300 yards).
Regional highpower championships are tomorrow.. not wasting 8 hours of driving time + ammo on them. I can't see targets at 300 yards, let alone 600 for the slowfire prone.
So maybe next year.
Going to get my prescription checked again and get a new set of glasses, and repeat the exercise. (with a scope, I can punch the 10 ring out of the 300 yard rapid fire and clean the target.... so it's not a technique issue...)
Anyway I figured I'd document this process of rifle marksmanship, to answer these questions:
* How much skill do you lose over time (degredation) with rifles?
(Answer, quite a lot!)
* How much skill (shooting fundamentals) automatically transfers to weak-side shooting?
(Answer thus far, *WAY* more than I expected! I wouldn't have thought I could have hit sharpshooter scores on my first outing; also I'm finding the AR-15 easier to operate left handed for some reason.)
* How much difference will an updated eyeglass prescription make?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a sling make over my baseline skill?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a shooting jacket make over my baseline skill?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a lighter trigger make over the ragged stock DPMS lower parts kit I threw in there?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will handloads tuned to the rifle make over factory Prvi Partizan M855 ball?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a proper rear sight make over the emergency flip up one I have mounted now? (It has no elevation adj.)
(to be determined)
So life got too busy this year, and I had to cut back on range trips / practice sessions this year. I've been focusing most of my energy and time on pistol shooting this year, and only packed a rifle to the range twice - last time was in February.
Well, here it is July now, and decided to try to chip off some rust on the old High Power "across the course" game. I took some standard targets to the range last night and ran through a pair of 80 shot courses at 200 / 300 yards (using reduced size targets for 300 yards.)
The first course I ran through was right handed. I've been having some serious vision issues with my right eye (I think need a new eyeglass prescription), so I also ran through the high power regional course again left handed.
The big questions I wanted to answer is "how bad am I with iron sights with my bad eye vs. good eye, and how bad will I be shooting left handed, where I've had zero practice, but better vision."
In the past I've consistently shot expert level on good days, sharpshooter on not so good days.
This practice session I did last night ... was very disconcerting though.
I'd just built a couple AR-15's and decided to take the top one out.
It's not really an ideal rifle for testing but I wanted to run it through it's paces since it was a fresh build, see if there were any hiccups. The rifle has a mid-weight 16" barrel, midwest industries mid length freefloat tube, and MI flip up emergency sights (I replaced the front post with an .050"). It sports a standard DPMS lower parts kit with a trigger pull coming in at about 5.5 lbs. Not exactly a match rifle, but lightweight (weighs 6.75 lbs).
Was shooting white box Prvi Partizan 5.56 ammo. Ammo and rifle functioned flawlessly, but it's not exactly match grade ammo or handloads. I figured for positional shooting and practice it'd be "good enough." (Certainly the ammo is more accurate than I am at this point... !)
I was not using a shooting coat, sling, or glove. (90 degrees and I don't like using shooting aids while practicing.)
For the timed rapid fire stages I just used a stopwatch on my phone.
Anyway that's the end of the setup ...
First round was sitting rapid fire. Went both left and right eye.
200 yards sitting rapid fire (right eye)
200 yards sitting rapid fire (LEFT eye)
Same score.... ???
That was surprising.
Made a 1/4 turn sight adjustment on my front sight post following these (the emergency flip up rear sight had no elevation adjustment, so I decided to zero the rifle at 200 yards and use kentucky windage for the 300 yard stage...)
Next strings were standing 200 yards slow fire.
Right handed 69/100
Left handed 76/100
Obviously a little out of practice, the scores here were disappointing. Usually without a coat I'm in the mid 80's. But what really surprised me is that I did better with my weak side than my strong side, considering I'd never even attempted shooting left handed standing before...
Following this I did a quick eye dominance check. My right eye has been so blurry lately I had a suspicion that I'd switched, and sure enough, with my glasses ON, my left eye was dominant. With my glasses OFF, on closer objects, my right eye was dominant, while on further objects, my left eye was dominant... kind of a head scratcher, but it makes sense, my brain is using the eye that can see better in any given situation.
Anyway moving on to 300 yards... ugh.
Rapid fire prone 300 yards.
Clearly there's some issue here... and it's not the gun.
(Yes I know I'm supposed to use an SR-3C center here but didn't feel like wasting any, just shot the SR target unaltered at 300)
There's 4 strings there, 2 left handed, 2 right handed, none of which I'd want to write home to Mom about (although clearly I'm ok with showing my poor shooting skills in public for the entire world to see haha).
Averaged about 70/100 on rapid fire prone 300. My scores were so poor I didn't bother wasting ammo on the MR63 target on slowfire.
Last week in a sporting rifle match I shot back to back prone 200 yard scores of 152/200 and 146/200 with this rifle. My eyes suck.
The further out I go the worse it is. At 300 yards when I focus my eye on the front sight with either eye, the target doesn't just blur out, it VANISHES completely. In order to align the sight I'd have to open both eyes and focus on the 300 yard target (to see it), then have to remember that spot and switch focus to my front sight (whereas the target simply vanishes completely in a brown blur that is indistinguishable from the backstop / stand / etc).
At 200 yards at least I have a fuzzy blob of gray to shoot at, where the bull was, when I focus on the front sight.
I repeated the sitting and standing scores again after this, giving up on 300 yards.
Rapid fire Sitting, right eye, 200 yards
96/100 - that's more like it. Substantial improvement over my first string. Not cleaning the target like last year but also back up to where I need to be to hit expert scores.
Rapid fire Sitting, left eye, 200 yards
89/100. Not as good as I was right handed but not too far off. I think I have a cheek weld / sight alignment issue when I shoot left handed (it feels SOOOO WRONG). But I can see the target more clearly so it almost washes.
I redid the standing shooting again but forgot to snap pics, as I was getting chased off the range by a pop up thunderstorm. Ended up with 86/100 right eye 200 yard standing slowfire, and 81/100 left eye.
So ended up shooting 2 80Rc courses minus the 300 yard prone slowfire stages (which would have been pointless, given how bad I was shooting at 300 yards).
Regional highpower championships are tomorrow.. not wasting 8 hours of driving time + ammo on them. I can't see targets at 300 yards, let alone 600 for the slowfire prone.
So maybe next year.
Going to get my prescription checked again and get a new set of glasses, and repeat the exercise. (with a scope, I can punch the 10 ring out of the 300 yard rapid fire and clean the target.... so it's not a technique issue...)
Anyway I figured I'd document this process of rifle marksmanship, to answer these questions:
* How much skill do you lose over time (degredation) with rifles?
(Answer, quite a lot!)
* How much skill (shooting fundamentals) automatically transfers to weak-side shooting?
(Answer thus far, *WAY* more than I expected! I wouldn't have thought I could have hit sharpshooter scores on my first outing; also I'm finding the AR-15 easier to operate left handed for some reason.)
* How much difference will an updated eyeglass prescription make?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a sling make over my baseline skill?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a shooting jacket make over my baseline skill?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a lighter trigger make over the ragged stock DPMS lower parts kit I threw in there?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will handloads tuned to the rifle make over factory Prvi Partizan M855 ball?
(to be determined)
* How much difference will a proper rear sight make over the emergency flip up one I have mounted now? (It has no elevation adj.)
(to be determined)