AR Scope Mounting Problem

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I recently finished my AR build using Magpul furniture for my 20" flat top rifle.
I then purchased a Redfield Revenge 6x18x44 scope. I started with a set of med height rings, but the objective lens touches the top of the front handguard, thus preventing the scope from seating in the front ring. I then tried a set of high rings, but the front lens is still touching the top of the handguard.
Does anyone else have this setup? Suggestions on mounts (not to cost more than the scope please).
Thanks in advance.
 
Just get a picatinny riser of sufficient height. They come in 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" and 1"

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A cantilevered mount like the Burris PEPR, DNZ freedom reaper, Nikon M-223. There are dozens of them.
The height is right, and they make it easy to get the eye relief where you want it.
 
The 1 piece mounts seem to be the best solution for scoping AR's. I find that even if I get my rings high enough, I still need a bit of offset off the front of the receiver to get teh proper eye relief on the scope.

the nikon or the ar stoner mount from midway are best budget minded name brand(ish) mounts I know of. I'm 90+% sure the midway ar stoner mount is made by warne.
I have even used a $25 cantilever chinese mount off amazon that worked just fine, but it was a bit heavy and I didn't like the big nuts on the side of the mount that tightened everything down.
 
Because the AR stock is straight (it doesn't angle down like almost every other rifle in the world) you'll need extra high rings or an equivalent mount (or equivalent ring / riser combo) to get the scope to the proper height for use, regardless of objective diameter.
 
I use the Wilson Combat and the Larue one piece mounts.
The Wilson is a little higher , about 1.560 to the centerline on the scope.
You need the height to be at least 1.50 otherwise you will be craning your neck to look thru the scope.
The Nikon mentioned above sounds like a great deal if it is high enough
 
you'll need extra high rings or an equivalent mount (or equivalent ring / riser combo) to get the scope to the proper height for use, regardless of objective diameter.

I dunno, I find them pretty useable at lower height.

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But then, with this one, I was splitting the difference with the micro RDS. Still, I don't find it uncomfortable to use either.
 
You may not have to raise the scope as much as lower the handguard. Top rails aggravate the problem, and handguard diameter is one part of the issue. Phat handguards seem to have been a trend after the M4 got some huge ones for whatever reason. The original CAR handguards weren't, and shot just fine.

Might look at B5 for a smaller diameter handguard. It's the diameter of the Delta ring at the small end of the taper. Can't get much smaller than that, and you will be getting the scope cleared knowing you have the likely minimum you could get.

Mock that up with the upper guard removed and see. $30 for a set of handguards that minimize the problem, vs $100+ for each entry in a collection that fail to? No brainer.

This might sound harsh, but Magpul didn't do you any favors and you can sell them.
 
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=96&newcategorydimensionid=7315

I like the YHM risers.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortb...ionids=4294845987&newcategorydimensionid=7315

I have one on my 300 BLK AR. I have some Burris Z Rings on it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=189433&d=1380338415

I have another YHM/Burris Z Ring set up on a scope that I swap from AR to AR that I use to accuracy test with. I just remove the bolts and slide it on and off the uppers.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=174887&d=1353248010
 
If you are concerned at all with weight, the AeroPrecision is less than half the weight of the PEPR mount. (+/- 3 oz.) I had a PEPR and then ordered an AP for another rifle. I promptly sold the PEPR.
 
I use this 0.5" riser http://www.midwayusa.com/product/26...unt-ar-15-flat-top-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Plus a pair of Vortex Tactical rings in "low" height to get my 30mm scopes where they need to be for good cheek weld on a fixed stock AR.

FYI this combo is lower than any one-piece extended mount out there. It is the same height as the sights on an A1 or A2 rifle, which I find to be perfect.

I don't know if it would clear a 44mm objective. I agree with others who have suggested trying a slimmer handguard though. I had some of the Magpul handguards on one of my rifles for a while, and they were definitely taller than the receiver of the rifle.

I bet the combo of some slimmer handguards and a riser-plus-rings setup that gets the centerline of the scope at least 1.2" above the receiver rail would fix your wagon. If not, you can continue to increase the ring height... but be aware it will probably compromise your cheek weld if you have anything close to a normal-shaped face. You may or may not care... from what I see, the majority of AR owners use one-piece mounts with crappy cheek weld and some of them manage to shoot just fine. I am personally a stickler for proper fundamentals.
 
The cheapest route would be the risers. I tried both 1 piece and 2 piece risers. I just didn't like having that extra piece between the rings and base. I bought a Burris P.E.P.R. and it works great for me on my AR but I have a round free float hand guard.
Dallas Jack
 
Walmart riser for $25 and use your current rings or keep your eye out for a used PEPR mount or the like in the classified section.
I have both setups and both work just as well as the other...
 
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