A question to all New York residents

Well the best thing to do is read the SAFE Act and read it again several times.https://www.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-reform Heres what I can tell you. Any mag that can hold over 10 rounds is illegal to have. Period. Unless permanently modified to only accept 10 rounds. The rifles you mention would have to be registered if it was in NY pre Safe Act or sold out of state unless modified to no longer fitting the Assault rifle definition. I'm pretty sure you can not bring those guns into the state now if they fit that definition. You need to read it carefully. You may try calling the NYSP but most of the time they can't or won't give you a straight answer. Make sure you base your decision on research you do and not answers like mine on a free forum. They are only a guide. NY is a beautiful state with alot of nice people. But the politics are all screwed up. Good luck.

Why ask a house when you can get the info you need here or at Scooter's link?
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/new-york-city.aspx

As for the pistol , forget about bringing it with you to New York. You have to apply for a pistol permit first which can take 6 months to two years. Then you can ship your pistol to a FFL in New York, and then after getting the endorsement on the permit. You can take possession of it.

More information here http://nyfirearms.com/forums/pistol-permits/

The rifles and 30 round mags questions, others can answer that better....
Or you can go to this link.

http://nyfirearms.com/forums/
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I purchased about whatever I wanted to in Nevada for few years, completely LEGAL AR-15's, M1A with flash hider, standard capacity magazines and other firearms related things. I moved to California for a new job and I had to leave guns and magazines at my Dad's in Idaho. Taking them into California would have made me an instant felon when caught. Then I would have been a felon everywhere, even in Nevada where I legally purchased for-mentioned guns.
it isn't logical in any sense......:banghead:

What part of NY would you be moving to? The farther you are from NYC, the easier it is to get a pistol permit without limitations. All equipment laws still pertain. Handgun magazines can be altered to hold only ten. A block or rivet is the usual method. The law states "not readily converted or modified" to hold more than ten. It does not say "permanent." So you can't use a screw, but a rivet is ok. Mine have a plastic block inside the spring and the base plate hot glued on.

One way would be to give or sell your guns to someone and then buy them back once you are a resident.

1911JAS said:

Good day fellow High roaders,
I have an opportunity to change careers and move from Ohio to New York. I have a small collection of firearms all legally purchased in Ohio by me including an AR, AK, and FAL. I also have 30 round rifle magazines and 15 round pistol magazines. My question is who would I have to talk to in order it move my firearms? Am I grandfathered on the firearms and magazines that NY does not sell. How is the registration process? Is it a PITA?
Thank you for your input

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If you're REALLY serious about doing this move, as far as your pistol and AR, sell them and buy compliant ones when you get here. AR platform rifles can be bought with non-removable magazines or compliant stocks. Saiga sporters are a compliant AK option. FAL? Never seen a compliant one.

There is no grandfathering of magazines over 10 rounds. You can block the ones you have now to hold only 10 rounds. The registration deadline was April 15th, 2014. After that date, all "assault weapon" features have to be removed, or the rifle converted to a non-removable magazine.

Long story short, unless you are getting paid well into the six figures, there's no job worth moving here for. Taxes what they are in this state, you'll come out ahead to stay in Ohio.

The best advice I can give you is stay out of NY if you like guns.

As someone who left NY a year ago over gun rights and taxes, stay out of NY. Governor Andrew Cuomo said it best, "if you're a conservative who likes firearms, maybe you shouldn't live in New York."

When it boils down to it, our type isn't welcome in the Vampire State.

Life without freedom is not Life at all....

claiborne said:

I purchased about whatever I wanted to in Nevada for few years, completely LEGAL AR-15's, M1A with flash hider, standard capacity magazines and other firearms related things. I moved to California for a new job and I had to leave guns and magazines at my Dad's in Idaho. Taking them into California would have made me an instant felon when caught. Then I would have been a felon everywhere, even in Nevada where I legally purchased for-mentioned guns.
it isn't logical in any sense......:banghead:

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This doesn't quite make sense. I suspect you'd have to bring them in via a CA FFL and would have to permanently block the magazines to 10 rounds, add a bullet button and insure that the rifles met any minimum length requirements which, although a pain would preclude you from having to leave them with a family member out of state.
You may be misinformed or just don't want to go through the effort. Either if fine with me and I am no advocate of the restrictive CA gun laws but it is misleading to imply that it is not possible.

1911JAS said:

Good day fellow High roaders,
I have an opportunity to change careers and move from Ohio to New York. I have a small collection of firearms all legally purchased in Ohio by me including an AR, AK, and FAL. I also have 30 round rifle magazines and 15 round pistol magazines. My question is who would I have to talk to in order it move my firearms? Am I grandfathered on the firearms and magazines that NY does not sell. How is the registration process? Is it a PITA?
Thank you for your input

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NYC born and raised and now living in Ohio. I do get back to NY once a year to see old friends and party on the beach. There is no way, absolutely no way I would ever return to NY and not just because of the oppressive gun laws. I can't believe what the cost of living is as compared to Ohio and the taxes. Yeah, read the safe act but also consider the offered pay and allowances. While I am not thrilled with Cleveland there is no way I would ever choose to return to my native NY. Then too, if you are good with the pay, taxes, cost of living and restrictive laws go for it. I didn't see any mention of where in NY?

When I say return to NY I mean return to NY to live. I like to visit and do miss the food. When we do go to NY I even sanitize my truck being sure there is not even a spent case from a range trip.

Ron

1911JAS said:

I would be moving somewhere between Buffalo and Rochester The potential position is in Clarence. It is unfortunate the taxes and laws are what they are.

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Well I guess ultimately you need to sit down and decide if it is worth the job and not just as to your gun rights and guns. You need to consider the area, taxes, driving, and a host of other things including overall cost of living. Weigh it all out, make a decision and then move on your decision.
Again, I do enjoy my visits back to NYC but will never choose to live there again. Then too, recently retired, my work days are over so I look at things differently.

Ron

I would be moving somewhere between Buffalo and Rochester The potential position is in Clarence. It is unfortunate the taxes and laws are what they are.

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You probably know that Clarence is a suburb of Buffalo. Rochester (where I live) is about 60 miles away. Near Clarence and Transit Towne is a combination ice cream parlor and chocolate shop that has very good stuff. It's called Alethea's.

Be aware that Buffalo is allowed to have it's own gun laws to some extent, as is Rochester. The only thing different about Rochester that I know of is that it didn't allow buying ammo over the Internet, which thanks to the SAFE Act is no longer allowed because ammo purchases have to be face to face. There's a good gun store near the Buffalo Airport called The Buffalo Gun Center.

Buffalo is in Erie County, To the east is Wyoming and Orleans County and to the North is Niagara County. I assume you will be moving to one of those. In NY, each county handles its own permits with its own rules. I think the form is basically the same, although now they ask for medical info to make sure you're sane. If you haven't decided exactly where you will move, then you should research to see if any of those counties is stricter than others. If you want me to look into the counties for you let me know which counties are potential residences and I'll ask people who know.

bingofuel said:

This doesn't quite make sense. I suspect you'd have to bring them in via a CA FFL and would have to permanently block the magazines to 10 rounds, add a bullet button and insure that the rifles met any minimum length requirements which, although a pain would preclude you from having to leave them with a family member out of state.
You may be misinformed or just don't want to go through the effort. Either if fine with me and I am no advocate of the restrictive CA gun laws but it is misleading to imply that it is not possible.

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Good catch. The only guns that I know of that are uniquely banned in CA which cannot be modified to be legal are those on the Roberti-Roos list and those not currently on the handgun roster (which will change).

Even a .50 BMG can be rechambered to a .510 DTC.

If you are speaking about NYC, you can't have a carry pistol unless you have lived there for 5 years and own a business that for which you carry 50,000 dollars per day in cash and can prove it. I moved from there almost 20 yrs ago , at the time it was 5000 per day and made deposits.

I'm not sure you could pay me enough money to move to NYC.

If you are speaking about NYC, you can't have a carry pistol unless you have lived there for 5 years and own a business that for which you carry 50,000 dollars per day in cash and can prove it. I moved from there almost 20 yrs ago , at the time it was 5000 per day and made deposits.

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This is false. Apparently a lot has changed in the 20 years you have been gone.

Unrestricted carry is relatively easy to obtain once you have the pistol permit.
Generally you request it of the judge and offer to take more classes/safety etc.

As was said, the further you are from NYC the better.

tyeo098 said:

As was said, the further you are from NYC the better.

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Not always. When I lived in NY I was the farthest away from the city you could possibly be, and still be in the same state. I was told flat out by a family friend, a county clerk, that my chance of getting an unrestricted permit were non existent. Looking at the fees just to APPLY just so I could MAYBE carry my firearm to and from the range, was a large reason why I left. And won't go back.

1911JAS said:

I would be moving somewhere between Buffalo and Rochester The potential position is in Clarence. It is unfortunate the taxes and laws are what they are.

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And remember .... -this- is as good as both of them are going to get, at least in our lifetimes.
(NYS Born & raised ... now in SC)

Not always. When I lived in NY I was the farthest away from the city you could possibly be, and still be in the same state

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What County? The farthest would be Niagara or perhaps southern Erie. I know that there's a Wyoming County judge that takes forever and might put restrictions on them.

Unrestricted carry is relatively easy to obtain once you have the pistol permit. Generally you request it of the judge and offer to take more classes/safety etc.

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Do you have a reference for that? Do you actually mean NYC or some other county? I've never heard that it's easy to get a permit in NYC. It's easy, depending on the county.

It's near impossible to get a NYC carry permit, there are no gunstores other than a couple near 1PP, nor ranges other than the Police range or if the one in Nassau County is still open, Nassau County range, anyone who says you can get a "Carry Permit easily", has no idea what they are talking about. I had mine strictly because I carried a lot of cash late at night.
I only knew 2 other guys who actually had a NYC carry like I did. And I had a very large business. I still have my old permit in the gun safe as a memory of what a pain it the ass it was to get.
It took an entire year of FBI and local checks, a series of 3 interviews, and letters of character reference form professional people including Detectives, and an FBI agent.
Also my bank had to verify all of my financials ,along with a letter from my accountant. I am sure it didn't get easier than it was back then, so don't mislead the man. You have to leave the 5 Borough's in order to even FFL a shotgun to another state, I have done it recently so I know first hand.

Also my bank had to verify all of my financials, along with a letter from my accountant

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I suppose they included where to send the political contribution, after verifying that you could afford it?