Carried round count for bump in the night

I saw yesterday morning a squirrel get knocked from the treetops twice by a 20ga, once by a 17hmr, run across the ground being peppered with 2 more shots from the 20ga, take a body hit from the 17, and still be crawling away. 9mm ended that....that's a 1 pound squirrel...I'm truly amazed at his will to live, but horrified that it took that much to do the job with weapons we trust our lives to. A meth head might literally eat us before realizing we killed him.

My bump guns is/are a pardner pump 20ga, 5 shots of turkey loads, taurus pt 99 17+1 plus another 17, and the wife's 8 shot 22 revolver loaded with quickshok ammo.

Whenever I hear a bump in the night, I roll out with my Sherman Tank, 90 rounds of 75mm ammo, and 4,750 rounds of .30-06 for the coaxial Brownings.

Anything less is just silly. If I need anything more, I'd just take off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.

I use USAF_VET's approach, when it comes to spiders...

For everything else, 15+1 if I grab my Glock 19, 30 rounds if I grab my AR15. I can reach my Glock in bed, and my AR when my feet hit the floor. A couple of extra mags for each around the house.

walking arsenal said:

If someone grabs my rifle barrel I'm going to pull the trigger until they let go.

Click to expand...

I was going to say something similar, but I like they way you put it better.

Coyote3855 said:

I wonder if you've ever patterned a shotgun with birdshot or buckshot. We do so regularly in firearms classes. At 21 feet (7 yards), birdshot from a cylinder bore makes a pattern about a foot across. Buckshot pattern can usually be covered with your hand.

Click to expand...

At 5 yards, birdshot patterns out of my Mossberg 590 were bigger than a redfield sight in target. Until I have the bbl threaded for chokes, birdshot is just noisy. I suppose it work work well for a snake at shovel distance, but I would use the shovel that's already outside...

You know, you would have some control over the muzzle at your end of the rifle as well.

I wasn't going to hijack the ops thread any longer but that was essentially my thought as well. The whole idea operates on the wielder of the rifle standing static and not fighting back.

Mossberg 590 and S&W 586 (no-dash).
00 Buck in the Mossy.
Remington 125 grain scalloped-jacket .357 mag HPs in the Smith.

The EDC is also the nightstand weapon.

thewillweeks said:

What do y'all carry for round count to investigate bump in the night/outside disturbances of unidentified origin?

Click to expand...

I don't really do that sort of investigation.

My go-to HD long gun contains 18-20 rounds (5.56x45). My go-to HD handgun contains 14 rounds (.45 ACP) or 16 rounds (9x19), depending on which one is in the quick-safe at that time.

WestKentucky said:

I saw yesterday morning a squirrel get knocked from the treetops twice by a 20ga, once by a 17hmr, run across the ground being peppered with 2 more shots from the 20ga, take a body hit from the 17, and still be crawling away. 9mm ended that....that's a 1 pound squirrel...I'm truly amazed at his will to live, but horrified that it took that much to do the job with weapons we trust our lives to. A meth head might literally eat us before realizing we killed him.

My bump guns is/are a pardner pump 20ga, 5 shots of turkey loads, taurus pt 99 17+1 plus another 17, and the wife's 8 shot 22 revolver loaded with quickshok ammo.

Click to expand...

I propose that the problem here is using something intended to be used on birds and thinking it reliable for use on human attackers.

Guns & ammo....

At the moment, I'm rocking 05 rounds of MagSafe SWAT .45acp for home defense. I also have 2 13rd Winchester Ranger T 230gr +P JHP loaded Glock magazines close by for my LE trade in 21 gen 04.
I'm good with 5 rounds of MagSafe SWAT. It's loud! The blast is more than I realized too but it's not hard to carry-shoot.
I'm looking new home protection .45acp ammunition. The .45acp Liberty Defense line looks good. It has a high KE level & muzzle vel. The DRT ammo looks impressive too but I'm in no big rush to buy it.
I might shoot up the MagSafe SWAT then just pack the Ranger T/T Series 230gr +P JHP for now.

Rusty

RustyShackelford said:

At the moment, I'm rocking 05 rounds of MagSafe SWAT .45acp for home defense. I also have 2 13rd Winchester Ranger T 230gr +P JHP loaded Glock magazines close by for my LE trade in 21 gen 04.
I'm good with 5 rounds of MagSafe SWAT. It's loud! The blast is more than I realized too but it's not hard to carry-shoot.
I'm looking new home protection .45acp ammunition. The .45acp Liberty Defense line looks good. It has a high KE level & muzzle vel. The DRT ammo looks impressive too but I'm in no big rush to buy it.
I might shoot up the MagSafe SWAT then just pack the Ranger T/T Series 230gr +P JHP for now.

Rusty

Click to expand...

Speer Gold Dot
Federal HST

Though Ranger Talon isn't a bad consolation prize either...just be sure to test it in your gun and inspect every round before putting it in the mag (well, that goes without saying, but be doubly sure on the Winchester stuff)

28 rds of 155gr gold dot 10mm (2 14rd mags) in the EAA witness, 5 rds of 00 buck in the remington 1100, plus couple dropped in a pocket, or 30 rds of hp 7.62x39 in the AK with the surefire on it.

Post #36.....

RE #36;
Trust me! I learned my lesson in 2013 with a awful box of Remington Golden Saber 185gr +P JHP. It looked like #%*+ . I had to pay $28.00 USD too.(it was a limited choice & the only +P .45acp round at the gun shop).
I'm fine with the QC of the Winchester Ranger T/T Series. It's great & the ballistics are higher than the Critical Duty & HST +P JHP.

6 in my carry gun, and if I really think something was outside, I keep a shotgun with 3 rds of 00Buck in the tube behind my bedroom door. I do have my extra carry gun ammo handy, but I seriously doubt I'll ever need that many rounds. I live in a very peaceful rural area with practically no crime, and violent crime is very rare, the local PD just had their first shots fired event in ten years last week, they killed a convicted sex offender who was threatening them with a knife. (so sad ) (not)

I have a gate on my driveway, security cameras, 3 large dogs and an alarm, plus I live in a very rural area on a private road. If someone gets past all of that, they might be Seal Team 6, in which case this old Army boy is up the creek ! I have my off duty weapon, a Glock 23 on my nightstand loaded with 11 rounds. I have an extra mag next to it but I have never felt the need to grab it. I have an AR SBR within reach with one mag in it. My wife has either her Kimber Solo (6 rounds IIRC) or CZ-75 (15 or 16 rounds IIRC) in her nightstand, I can't remember which one. She used to have a pump 20ga mossy shotgun under the bed, but to be honest I'm pretty sure she put it away after she realized it was overkill. There are also guns around the house (we don't have kids and we both shoot A LOT). I'd have to say that all of those things combined probably give me a fighting chance to get to one of my safes !!!

I carry as much ammo as I feasibly can, regardless of what caliber or type of weapon. For me, this works out to 17 rounds of 00 buck if I grab the 12 gauge, 60 rounds of .223 if i grab the AR, 15 rounds if i grab the 1911. I prefer the shotgun or rifle and lean heavily toward the rifle for several reasons, capacity being only one of those.

In my particular situation, my bedroom door is less than four feet away from and on the same wall as the door to upstairs where my kids bedrooms are. This allows me to see both ends of the house from the doorway, while still controlling access to the upstairs where my kids are. Lighting allows me to see well enough to identify a potential threat from either approach. If things get a little "western", there's another firearm within reach.

Sorry, but this one has gone more than a little over the top ...

And going looking for trouble often means you improve your chances of finding it. Given the efficacy of castle doctrine in many states these days, going outside in search of the source of a noise that might mean intruders is almost always a Bad Idea.

Cameras are cheap - lawyers are expensive.