Gun control advocate Andy Parker threatens Senator!

basicblur · Oct 29, 2015

From my neck o' the woods...Senator Bill Stanley reports threat by gun control advocate Andy Parker (father of the WDBJ / Roanoke VA reporter killed).

I'm trying to give this guy a bit of a break as his daughter was just murdered, but I think he's about used up all my good will...

From the article, which can be seen here:

State Sen. Bill Stanley on Wednesday told police that he had been threatened by Andy Parker, the father of the Roanoke reporter fatally shot on live TV in August.

Late Tuesday, Parker sent this message to Stanley, R-Franklin County, via Facebook: “I’m going to be your worst nightmare you little bastard.”

“I take this very seriously as a threat against the safety of my family,” said Stanley, who contacted Capitol Police and the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office. He said he also picked up applications for concealed handgun permits for himself and his wife.

“We are proud firearms owners, but I never felt the need for a concealed carry permit until now,” he said.

Tommygunn · Oct 29, 2015

Late Tuesday, Parker sent this message to Stanley, R-Franklin County, via Facebook: “I’m going to be your worst nightmare you little bastard.”

Well, that's pretty nasty but IMHO it doesn't cross the line as it doesn't express a specific threat. The police will take a report and nothing will come from it.
But, yea, I'd start carrying a gun CCW too under the circumstances -- you can't be too careful.

AlexanderA · Oct 29, 2015

“I’m going to be your worst nightmare you little bastard.”

A reasonable interpretation of this is that he's going to be the senator's worst political nightmare. I don't see any specific threat of death or bodily injury.

The senator is overreacting. No harm in getting a concealed-carry license, though. Such licenses are easy to get in Virginia, and no specific reason has to be shown.

TimSr · Oct 29, 2015

Yep, I'd have to see the entire context. I can't conclude it's a physical threat based on that.

GBExpat · Oct 29, 2015

<shrug> He is a politician so, odds are, that he has no qualms about spinning whatever he is given to suit his need. He, apparently, feels that this is his best defensive response to the poorly worded threat by Parker.

Sunray · Oct 29, 2015

Senator's got grounds for a libel suit for Parker calling into question the validity of his parent's marriage, but not much else.

M-Cameron · Oct 29, 2015

AlexanderA said:
A reasonable interpretation of this is that he's going to be the senator's worst political nightmare. I don't see any specific threat of death or bodily injury.

The senator is overreacting. No harm in getting a concealed-carry license, though. Such licenses are easy to get in Virginia, and no specific reason has to be shown.

that may have been true 10 years ago.......but in this day in age, with how radical people have gotten, and how little respect people have for human life, i really wouldnt take any chances...

seeing something like that, i would assume that yeah, theres a chance this guy may try to harm me.

Arkansas Paul · Oct 29, 2015

Senator's got grounds for a libel suit for Parker calling into question the validity of his parent's marriage, but not much else.

No, he doesn't have that either.
Not unless he can 1) prove it is not true (the truth is an absolute defense to slander/libel) and 2) prove that he suffered a loss as a direct result of the action.

You don't win lawsuits because a jerk calls you names and hurt your feelings.

saltydog · Oct 29, 2015

Personally if I was him I wouldn't worry about it. He's a politician. I see threats like this all the time even from some gun forums......

basicblur · Oct 29, 2015

I guess it's easy to ignore his statements if they're not directed at you (or your family).

If it was me (and reading some of the statements / actions he's taken against others according to the article), I'd be concerned.

Maybe the father has not yet done anything illegal or that LE can take action against him for, but after viewing his recent statements / actions in totality, I'd be worried this guy has either lost it or is about to.

basicblur · Oct 29, 2015

I see VCDL has weighed in with more details - starting to look darn threatening to me...
(emphasis mine)

Gun-controller Andy Parker threatens pro-gun state Senator Bill Stanley! Told to “man up” by governor with security squad

So Andy Parker, the anti-gun politician whose daughter was horrendously murdered on camera by journalist Vester Lee Flanagan, sends a threatening message to pro-gun Senator Bill Stanley, “I’m going to be your worst nightmare you little bastard!” Don’t forget that just after his daughter was murdered, Andy Parker made a distinct point of saying he was going to purchase his first handgun.

Parker also says to Stanley on Facebook in screaming upper-case text (I’ll spare you that), “You’re finest moment, you sorry little coward. You didn’t even have the decency to reach out and offer a lame condolence after my daughter Allison Bailey was murdered in your district. When you see me again, you best walk the other way lest I beat your little ass with my bare hands.”
Certainly Senator Stanley has a right to be concerned by such messages. The second message is an explicit threat as I see it.

No matter how frustrated elected officials have made me over the years, I have never even considered sending such a threatening message to any one of them.

But, as I say frequently, the other side tends to have some serious anger-management problems and it looks like Mr. Parker is no exception to the rule. While he has been through a terrible, terrible tragedy, that doesn’t justify the threats.

Not to be left out of the conversation, our hypocrite-in-charge, Governor McAuliffe tells Stanley to “man up.” This from a man who is surrounded 24/7 by a multi-person security team everywhere he goes, including into gun-free DC!

If anybody could use a little “manning up,’ Governor…

Here is one of many stories on the threat:

http://www.richmond.com/news/virgin...cle_e1fe7c32-353d-5f18-8647-2e0b851461e0.html

Black Knight · Oct 29, 2015

While he may not have enough for an arrest I believe he is just starting a paper trail. He may be starting the paper trail to avoid an incident, letting people know he has contacted law enforcement. In the event of an incident he may be able to show justifiable use of force. By getting an application for a Concealed Handgun Permit he may be preparing for the worse but hoping for the best. Either way it puts Mr. Parker on notice that his behavior will be monitored. It is amazing how violent "peaceful" anti-gunners can become when they come across someone who disagrees with their opinions.

basicblur · Oct 29, 2015

It is amazing how violent "peaceful" anti-gunners can become when they come across someone who disagrees with their opinions.

Ain't it though?

While you hate to stereotype, darn if it doesn't look like a lot of anti-2nd Amendment folks have anger management issues.

I can't tell you how many talking heads I've seen lose it when it comes to discussing guns - folks like Piers Morgan, Geraldo Rivera, throw a rock MSNBC's way and you can't help but hit one, etc.

yokel · Oct 29, 2015

You can never underestimate the intense ideological commitment and utter ruthlessness of the gun control & confiscation clique.

Private gun ownership is truly looked upon by them as a scourge that ought to have no place in a "refined" and "civilized" society.

danez71 · Oct 29, 2015

Harrassment and threats....Restraining Order time, IMO.

FYI - he said he changed his mind about buying a gun but who knows if he has one or not and he's clearly making threats.

joem1945 · Oct 30, 2015

Never know how grief may effect a person. If he keeps it inside it may rise to boil over and no one knows what might happen. Best to be prepared.

Shanghai McCoy · Oct 30, 2015

Well, the black fellow who did the killings certainly had anger issues...
You can never know if a threat is real until it is, sadly, too late.

luzyfuerza · Oct 31, 2015

My worst nightmare is that someone will attempt to cause me or someone I love severe bodily harm. To me, Andy Parker's threat is real enough. I would have a difficult time waving it off as nothing.

gripper · Oct 31, 2015

I might not shoot someone like that...but if,after communicating that threat he laid hands on me; he'd have caught a beating.

herrwalther · Oct 31, 2015

One can never be sure what counts as a legitimate threat. A trainee with the Afghan Police that I worked with said he would bring back a gift after visiting sick family in Kabul. It was a gift alright, a vest laden with homemade explosive. Thankfully his detonation was premature.

wideym · Oct 31, 2015

Once again we (the gun community) are portrayed as unfeeling monsters for not offering condolences immediately after the event, even though you know we would be called unfeeling monsters for even showing our face so soon afterwards.

230RN · Nov 1, 2015

I'd take it semi-seriously without going overboard with it, and I'd contact the police just to establish a record.

As I've said before many times, you just can't trust a passionately self-righteous zealot to stay within the bounds of social propriety.

And remember: "You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

Terry

GBExpat · Nov 1, 2015

Sorry, 230RN, but I could not let this one go by ...

230RN said:
... And remember: "You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."...

Catchy, but but not well reasoned ... of course you can.

People will often grab hold of a position due to emotion but once they seriously think it thru (often with outside help) they realize that their initial stance was flawed.

What this may actually refer to is someone who has emotionally latched onto a position and blindly followed its drumbeat for an extended period of time so that now there is little hope of reason ever breaching the walls of the now hard-shell belief (especially if said belief has, over time, become a fundamental part of what they see as themselves).

steelerdude99 · Nov 1, 2015

GBExpat said:
Sorry, 230RN, but I could not let this one go by ...

Catchy, but but not well reasoned ... of course you can.

People will often grab hold of a position due to emotion but once they seriously think it thru (often with outside help) they realize that their initial stance was flawed.

...

Realize that their initial stance was flawed is what we hope happens.

But in this day in age, beliefs are more entrenched than ever. But entrenched for the wrong reasons; views are entrenched based on ignorance on the topic. Anti-gun zealots want their followers to know as little about guns as possible. The followers should know that guns are bad and their position as teacher, mother, father mayor ... etc. demand that their environment be kept safe. And that means no guns anywhere in the vicinity.

chuck

230RN · Nov 1, 2015

GBExpat remarked,

Sorry, 230RN, but I could not let this one go by ...

Originally Posted by 230RN View Post
... And remember: "You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

Click to expand...

Catchy, but but not well reasoned ... of course you can.

Insert "usually" as appropriate, then. I will continue to use it as is, since it establishes a guideline as to when I'm about to waste my breath and time. "Usually," I am.

The "usual" symptoms of that are when the other party keeps changing the subject when challenged, and when the other party keeps changing definitions when challenged.

This bespeaks a deep enough level of brainwashing than that which I am qualified to dispel.

Terry

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