Screw the new anti-gun Canadian govt - I just bought this!

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Even your government in the US has gone left lately.........

I think that governments in developed countries are like NASCAR. You start up, turn to the left as hard as you can and then hit the gas.................
 
I just received the AMT. This is a small .380! It makes my Astra Constable .380 (PPK size) seem like a full size pistol.

I can only get two fingers (medium sized hands) on the grip and my pinky rides below the floor plate of the mag.

I field stripped it, have greased the rails and lubed it. It seems to be in fine condition except for the safety.

If I screw down the left grip the safety will not move. If I leave it in Fire the pistol fires (with A Zooms). If I leave the grip partially out and less tightly screwed down the safety works but is loose, with no distinct detents at Fire and Safe. It would not be usable as a safety this way.

The trigger pull is surprisingly good. I was expecting a very heavy pull but if I concentrate on pushing in the grip safety with my strong hand, the trigger pull is clean, no creep or drag and breaks around 8 lbs.
 
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Even your government in the US has gone left lately.........

I think that governments in developed countries are like NASCAR. You start up, turn to the left as hard as you can and then hit the gas.................
That is an excellent description of what happens. I'll have to "borrow" that one.
 
I have that exact model. Given it has a trigger only King Kong could love, it has never been a "target" type gun. At best, it was a last ditch belly gun.
I think the OP was referring to the fact that the only legitimate purpose for handguns in Canada is target shooting. Self defence is not permitted. [emoji12]
 
I honestly believe we here in the U.S. are only a few steps behind you in Canada, especially if a Democratic president gets in and we loose the Congress.
 
You are far ahead of us with your 2A rights. DO NOT SURRENDER THEM.

Governments want only one thing - more control.
 
We just elected an anti-gun leftist government in Canada.

So I went out and bought this. :neener:

We cannot import handguns with barrels shorter than 4.2" nor .25 nor .32 nor .380s anymore into Canada so getting a small pistol means older ones already in Canada.

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It's for target shooting of course.

I know that these AMT Backup .380s have a reputation for jamming but I'll clean it well, apply a good grease to the rails and if necessary will polish the feed ramp, change the recoil and mag springs and will run a variety of ammo through it to see what/if any it likes.
wow! look at that bad boy !
in their face !!
lol
 
geologist:

Fairly recently Canada passed some sort of regulation making certain gun ownership easier.
At least that was passed a while before the election, which seemed to say something about (growing?) solid gun support up there.

On a minor sidenote, at least SKS aficionados there have easy access to decently-priced, excellent condition Russian versions which were recently imported, and cheap 7.62x39 ammo.
Their importation was banned in the US years ago.

Can Canadians buy foreign military surplus handguns, even if the ammo capacities are more restrictive than here?
 
A year ago we made the long gun registry disappear and the need for separate documents to transport restricted (handguns and some "scary" long guns) to the range are now incorporated in our gun licences.

Our federal police immediately after the election announced that they were able to make some commonly available non restricted long guns fire automatic (mostly by bumpfiring).

They will use this as a pretext to ban some legally owned semi auto rifles. Probably the SKS, Mini 14/30, CZ858, Tavor etc.

We can buy some surplus guns as long as they are not prohibited ie. barrel shorter than 4.1" or .25 or .32 caliber. Magazines must be pinned to 10 rounds for handguns.
 
The Backup is so small for a .380. Here it is in comparison to other small guns (some mouseguns too).

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You are far ahead of us with your 2A rights. DO NOT SURRENDER THEM.

Governments want only one thing - more control.
Why don't more people think like you in Canada? If more people spoke up maybe things could change.
 
Two many lefties who like to receive government services that someone else pays for......
 
geologist

That's a nice collection of guns you've got there. Several of them, like the S&W Model 19, Astra Constable, and the Beretta Model 70 would all make for decent CCW guns. Likewise the Baby Browning, Astra Cub, and the AMT Back Up could serve as a nice hideaway BUG.

My own collection would be somewhat like yours with a Baby Browning, KelTec P3AT, Colt Mustang, SIG P238, and two S&W J frames: a Model 649 and a Model 638.
 
Thanks Bannockburn. I also have a S&W Model 12 Airweight that would be an excellent CCW candidate.
 
geologist, I have the same model gun. As for your safety problem, you must be careful (when reassembling) to note that the grip panel has a lip that must go into the slot in the frame. If you don't do that, the safety won't work when you tighten the grip screw.
 
Thanks LoneGoose. The safety is moving now but there is no détente at all. It flops freely from safe down to fire. Is there a spring that is supposed to tension the safety arm?
 
geologist

That's a nice collection of guns you've got there. Several of them, like the S&W Model 19, Astra Constable, and the Beretta Model 70 would all make for decent CCW guns. Likewise the Baby Browning, Astra Cub, and the AMT Back Up could serve as a nice hideaway BUG.

My own collection would be somewhat like yours with a Baby Browning, KelTec P3AT, Colt Mustang, SIG P238, and two S&W J frames: a Model 649 and a Model 638.
This is exactly why all those guns are prohibited, due to barrel lengths les than 105mm or 4.133".
You must have owned a 12-6 class firearm continuously since before December 1, 1998.
If you sell all your 12-6 class firearms then you no longer have a 12-6 license and will never regain it.
 
Speculation is that the Cdn gov't of the day picked just above 4.125 inches (as metric)
to capture/prohibit all of the S&W model 10's that were appearing in the marketplace.
That was a consequence of PD's switching from revolvers to autoloaders at the time.
The old units were coming onto to the commercial marketplace.

One of the unintended consequences is that Cdn armoured transport companies *still* using those revolvers now have a hard time acquiring spares/new units.

(Only gov't agencies may import prohibited firearms for official use).
 
I tested the Backup today. The weather was terrible so it was more of a "how does it function" test.

I fired 5 rounds of Norinco ball through each of my 4 magazines. The three stainless AMT mags worked fine. One black non AMT mag would not feed from the mag past the feed ramp.

I fired 60 rounds of Norinco ball and 20 rounds of PRVI HP. There were no failures or stoppages with the ball and one failure to feed past the feed ramp with the HP.

I fired a couple of groups of ball at 5 yards, two handed/isoceles, firing as fast as I could while using the miniscule sights. The groups were like this. I think that I am jerking the trigger but then again I don't shoot enough these days.

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Judging by the way the pistol sits in my hand I think that it will point shoot low for me. I'll try this on my next visit.

I had heard that they can bite like a PPK so I wore a shooting glove and didn't feel the slide on my thumb web. The recoil seems very manageable despite my having read many accounts of the harshness of blowbacks this small.

The trigger pull was fine though I was concentrating on making sure my grip activated the grip safety.

Overall it functions very well and I think that it would perform as designed at 5 yards.

I tried some targets at 25 yards with the ball, 2 handed/isosceles and was only able to get 2 - 3 rounds per mag onto a 8.5"x11" sheet.
 
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