Recoil of single stack polymer 9mm models?

How rough can 9mm be?

It shouldn't bother anyone until you go sub 20 oz micro pistols or something.

But even then, a 9mm is a pussy cat compared to larger calibers that do kick hard.

rc

My LC9S seems OK.

peacebutready said:

I believe the LC9 is 17 oz.

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It is and is a puppy with 147 grain loads and a slightly bigger puppy with Hot 124s. My LCP is close to the same and My Colt Officers barks louder. The SP 101....depends

Describing recoil of a gun is next to impossible as we all have different definitions of it. In my experience the LC9 seems to be the least comfortable, but it's still comfortable to me.

Gotta try them out and see what you prefer. I'm told the XDS 9mm is a soft shooter.

I would refer to my lc9 as soft shooting.

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I have the S&W Shield in 9mm, not much kick to me and all I shoot are the high price really effective loads ...

Taurus 709 Slim, recoil is quite manageable, not heavy, not light, no real discernible difference between 115 grain and 124 grain.

Here's what I've found regarding recoil: It's a matter of perception. If you shoot something for a while with a decent kick to it, everything else seems like a softy.

Go to a local range a few times in a month and rent their smallest subcompact .40 caliber. Then go buy whatever 9mm subcompact single stack in the market and it will never be an issue.

I think it really depends on how well a particular model (small 9mm) fits your hand.

I had a Kel-Tec PF-9. It was reliable and reasonably accurate when I shot it, but a pain to shoot. (I found a vendor who sold a good grip system that made the recoil much more tolerable, but it still wasn't a favorite for me. I shot it enough to be confident in it's use... but no more.) I never had a chance to shoot the similar LC9. The Kahr P9, which was only a slight bit bigger than the PF9 was actually pretty nice as was a Kahr CM9. I now sometimes carry a Ruger SR9 and I enjoy shooting it.

I found the Kel-Tec P3AT a bad fit for me -- but mostly because the finger guard jammed my trigger finger with each shot. Recoil wasn't fun, but it wasn't terrible. The similar Ruger LCP was no problem, and recoil was about the same.

Felt recoil is a very subjective thing -- made worse by hotter loads, lighter frames. and narrower grips.

I was wondering how the Glock G43 kicks, anyone?

My Kahr CM9 can be snappy with hot loads, but still very controllable and pocket-sized for carry needs.

I own the PF9, the LC9s, Astra A75L, SR9c, S&W Model 39, XDS, S&W Model 3913, and a couple of other smaller (with the exception of the Model 39), single stack 9mm.

The PF9 was the strongest kicking gun of the group. I found the LC9s to be quite mild. The other guns are larger, mitigating recoil, and, with the exception of the SR9c, and XDS, metal-framed. Heavier guns soak up recoil.

Also, there are various levels of 9mm, even in the same bullet weight. A +P, pr a +P+ round raises recoil. Best bet is to look at what's available, with whatever ammo you decide, and try one out.

The G43 that I shot belonged to a friend who works for a gun shop. It's not much different in recoil than any other gun of the same size and weight. Glocks just don't feel right in my hands, and I'm sure that a person who likes them would find the gun quite comfortable to shoot. Just not me.

Have not shot the others you listed but on my recently purchased Walther PPS, the felt recoil = non issue.

My new Walther PPS is a pleasure to shoot and to me recoil is mild. But recoil perception is very subjective and lot depends on a users skills, proper grip, and strength.

Walt Sherrill nailed it,,,

I think it really depends on how well a particular model (small 9mm) fits your hand.

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I purchased an original LC9 and the recoil was snappy,,,
Then I installed a Pachmayer Grip Sleeve on it.



That $11.95 item made the swell of the grip,,,
Nestle snugly into the palm of my hand.

It completely tamed the snappiness.

It wasn't the sponginess of the grip sleeve,,,
It was making the pistol have a better fit to my hand.

Basic physics cannot be ignored.

The less mass that any pistol has,,,
The more energy will be transferred to your hand.

Proper fit in your hand spreads the energy out to make it seem like less recoil.

Aarond

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My wife has a Taurus PT709 Slim and the recoil is a bit snappy, but it's not uncomfortable. For it's size, it's not a bad gun to shoot, and running a box or two of ammo through it practicing isn't a problem.

I've shot the Glock 43, Walther PPS, S&W Shield9, Bersa BP9CC and Taurus PT111g2

Weight and the height of the bore axis seem to make the biggest difference in felt recoil. I personally like the PPS and the Shield the best of the bunch, but the Walther gets the nod for me ergonomically over the Shield. The Bersa's trigger is extremely light (I wouldn't recommend it for round-chambered conceal carry) The Taurus has a bunch of take-up in the trigger. The Glock has the most felt recoil, but it is also the lightest. I'd happily carry the Walther, S&W or Glock.

I started building up grip strength and putting on muscle mass in my forearms years ago, I created posts on it here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8787137&postcount=31

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8787169&postcount=32

Obviously this doesn't affect the recoil of any gun but it does affect perceived recoil and helps get back on target.

I shot my R9 this weekend and I think that if I hadn't built up grip strength and muscle mass in my forearms the pistol would be a lot harder to shoot.

After shooting the R9, I've found that shooting the Kahr CM9 and the Beretta Nano is pretty easy. Perceived recoil is relative.

I've had people shoot the R9 once and put it down, telling me it feels like the gun is going to jump out of their hands and they don't want to shoot it.

I bought a Springfield XDs 45acp. I don't notice much difference between a 1911 and the XDs. Good little gun.

I've shot a shield 9mm and glock 43. Both have very little recoil. I don't think anyone of normal physical stature would have any issues with the recoil of either of these. Hope this helps!

My Kahr CM9 is very comfortable to shoot, in terms of felt recoil. The KelTec PF9 I had before the CM9; not so much so.

I have handled and shot most of the current single stack 9mm carry guns available today, and have found the Walther PPS has the least amount of felt recoil (for me). That being said it is on the heavier side of those single stacks, and which I believe is one of the reasons why it is so soft in the recoil department. Other soft shooters were the Bersa BP9cc, M&P Shield, even the Taurus PT111 G2, however in spite of the G2 eating everything I fed it, the trigger and sights were just to poor for me to recommend it, except to those facing severe budget issues, because that Taurus can be found for under $200.

I have a shield 9 very pleasant to shoot