Budget-friendly, Improvised weapons/tools/devices

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I imagine that if there was a waterbottle shaped like a small 2-5lb dumbbell, that would be ideal. With the shape, would be easy to grasp and hold onto. Would give two sides for striking too.

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I like reading this thread. The best weapon is the resourceful mind.
 
It occurs to me that the criteria "• Must have a utilitarian use - This is essential" needs a corollary.

• The item's use/necessity must be plausible, considering both you and your environment.

This is why screwdrivers or ball-peen hammers are going to be red flag today, unless you're doing some kind of maintenance or construction at the time of LEO contact.

Excellent point! About a page in I realized I could have worded the original post better. I'm going to edit it right now and add your bullet. This is very helpful, thank you.
 
Goes to who carries a can of wasp spray with them? It needs to be part of your working environment with a primary purpose aside of self defense. Like, brake or carburetor cleaner. Not pretty when it's sprayed in the eyes, as I found out. And it wasn't self inflicted, the owner's young son was goofing around.

There was also a modding thread a few years back on which ink pens to take apart and combine to make one all stainless steel. Pilot IIRC. I built one and then wouldn't take it to work - too many customers have stolen pens from me at the counter.

Flashlights, yes. The latest is this one: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/?s=flashlight Yes, flashlights like the 6 C or D Cell Maglite were common in LEO use twenty years ago, but they fell into disrepute when they were constantly used as truncheons instead of nightsticks. Many departments have banned them now. Liability and convenience are issues - there's only so much gear you can wear on the belt and then it contributes to officer injury. Big lights are now generally considered weapons on first sight. And they aren't user friendly anymore than a nightstick.

Canes, however, get their own subforum here. No further mentioned needed.

I'm surprised no one (I think) has mentioned a ball of keys on a long nylon lanyard. Very common these days. I don't subscribe to them having been a locksmith and understanding that you don't want to lose the keys that should have been kept home. Nonetheless a lot of folks keep adding on rings and keys until they have at least a pound on them. To a certain degree the impact is blunted by them spreading out, like a dead blow hammer. Nonetheless they would not be a bad choice whipped across the face.
 
John mentioned the carabiner as a potential weapon in another thread. I curious what people's thoughts are. I have this steel one pictured, which weighs a hefty 200g and fits on my hand. But I found when hitting a heavy bag that using it for straight punches like brass knuckles doesn't seem like a good idea. It hurts my hand, and at full speed I think there is a risk of injury. However it seems to work very well with hammer blows, both downwards and upwards. And with the mass of this particular one, I wonder if it might be feasible as a flexible weapon.

I strongly suggest NOT holding as a fist load or knuckbuster. I have used a heavy carabiner on a braided 550 lanyard, with either keys or a light on the other end. I have carried such through multiple high-security checkpoints. When working security jobs, or any other job where you frequently need a light, the light/carabiner lanyard is very practical, since you can clip the carabiner around a belt loop or your Wilderness Systems belt buckle. It takes up less space than the traditional 2-5 cell MagLite, while giving more reach, should you have to use it defensively. It also takes up much less room and weighs less.

If you're using a carabiner on one end, and keys on the other, the carabiner around a belt loop is extremely practical. The downside to this second lanyard is that you only have one really good striking surface, instead of two. The keys could cause damage, but can't be easily gripped, and their loose arrangement will impact less force on a strike than a single solid denser object like a small sturdy light or heavy carabiner.
 
The Cold Steel shovel is an excellent item to keep in the car.

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Looks like a simple utilitarian hand shovel you'd get at the Home Depot. The Russian special forces however, train with this thing as a hand to hand weapon in addition to it's use as an entrenching tool. It is devastating and the equivalent of a hatchet or small axe, but looks much more friendly. It comes sharpened from the factory, and would be a deadly force on force close in personal quarters battle item if need be. One hit to the temple or ortho-octo-cranial cavity or thoracic trunk, or spinal column, and it's lights out for baddie.

I keep it in my back seat. If the officer says "what's that for" I tell him it's in case I get stuck. :)
 
I have used a heavy carabiner on a braided 550 lanyard, with either keys or a light on the other end. I have carried such through multiple high-security checkpoints. When working security jobs, or any other job where you frequently need a light, the light/carabiner lanyard is very practical, since you can clip the carabiner around a belt loop or your Wildderness Systems belt buckle. It takes up less space than the traditional 2-5 cell MagLite, while giving more reach, should you have to use it defensively. It also takes up much less room and weighs less.

Do you have any pics? If not, about how long was the 550 part, and do you know the type of braid?
 
The Cold Steel shovel is an excellent item to keep in the car.

My friend just got one and showed it to me. I can't imagine any police officer not giving it the hairy eye, at least around here.
 
glistam,

This isn't my favorite lanyard, but it does have sentimental value, since Byron made it for me. It's actually a very good length, but it would be better if he hadn't taken the fibers from the middle of the 550 cord.

John
 

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I actually am talking about a cheap disposable unopened plastic water bottle.

I have been unable to strike a hard object with enough force to rupture one.

I have no independent verification of this but my impression is that there are two different flavors of disposable water bottles. The ones that are shrink wrapped and sold as cases are as flimsy as is practical to make them. The ones that come out of vending machines seem noticeably less flimsy to me.

20 oz carbonated soda bottles are even stronger because they have to withstand the internal CO2 pressurization. If I was improvising a bottle as a striking implement I would choose a plastic Coke bottle over water.


Mason jar with a matching lid. Drilled a hole through the top and put on a 1/4" nipple so I could attach it to a pump. I was surprised at how much pressure it could take. I have used the same setup to stabilize wooden knife scales. It really doesn't take much of a vacuum to pull the air out. You will see air bubbles coming out of the wood quickly at first and then more slowly until no more bubbles form.

Instead of epoxy or Fiberglass resin, wood hardener like Pentacryl wood stabilizer will work. If you use epoxy, it actually isn't that hard to clean out of the jar - wipe it out with acetone or wait until it dries and use a sharp edge to scrape it out. Speaking of acetone, if you are in a really DIY mood, you can melt plexiglas or lexan in acetone and use that in place of epoxy, resin or wood stabilizer but it takes a little trial and error to get it to the right thickness.

Go to the farm store and buy a giant horse syringe. Run the plunger all the way in, attach it to the chamber described above then slowly withdraw the plunger and lock it in place with tape or a clamp.

Just for fun put a marshmallow inside the jar and see what happens when you take the air pressure away.
 
Old school here,a childs wooden baseball bat under the drivers seat.I may be going to a ball game lol.
 
There are weaker and stronger plastic bottles, but before they're opened, all typical plastic water bottles are strong enough to knock an assailant unconscious.
 
SOP when traveling by air is bandanna and heavy pen and if I have my pack or briefcase is a 30"x38" or larger flour sack towel (more than twice the size of a bandana).
 

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Don't discount your clothing. Heavy shoes with hard sole or softer for traction, steel toed or at a minimum reinforced.

Clothing that moves well. Some jeans I wear I swear I couldn't do half the stuff I do in some different cargo pants.

Heavy belt, both the leather and buckle. You could flail or wrap your hand with the belt.

Change purse leather with strap- works like a sap, if shaped properly can be really discrete.

I have a sharpened piece of G10 similar to credit card that I put behind my hospital badge and affixed another hospital phone list on the side. Very discrete and very durable and sharp. Picked it up at the last Blade Show from Mickey Yurco.
 
I can't imagine any police officer not giving it the hairy eye, at least around here.
Context is everything. I wouldn't walk down the street with one or put it on the floorboard.

Mine's in my trunk in a plastic bin containing a tire pump, duct tape, rope, some basic tools, a roll of paper towels, a spare coat, etc. Of course it's not easy to access there either...

I like the idea of tactical pens and the Browning tactical water bottle, but the people making them are apparently idiots. The point of an object like that is that there's an obviously plausible reason for those items being there BESIDES being used as a weapon.

I wouldn't mind having a tough water bottle with a good gripping surface, but not one with brightly colored pointy knobs on both ends and the word "tactical" imprinted on the side alongside the name of a very popular gun company.

Similarly I really like some of the tactical pens, but I'm not going to buy one that looks like this and has the word Zombie on it or the name of a knife or gun or tactical gear company. I want one that looks like this and has a non-descript "office-supply-like" name on it. In other words, one that TSA and my employer will ignore EVEN AFTER they take a good look at it.
 
I taught for 30 years, most of them in Industrial Arts. I always figured if we had a school shooting I'd issue "tools" to all of the kids. Anyone who got through the door with a firearm would be bombarded with hammers, circular saw blades, files, and wrenches. Better than hiding in a closet.


I was told over and over with great fervor that the most deadly weapon in the human arsenal resided within the pitifully few cubic inches inside your skull. My American adopted grandfather could cause more injuries and create more havoc with a stock cane than a battalion of 2nd Lt's could with a hundred maps.

My Philippine grandfather tried to teach me a few tricks with what he called a Dulo-Dulo. A simple stick a little longer and about the same diameter as the LED flashlight I carry.

Item last- when threatened a woman's place is in the kitchen, that's where all the knives and cast iron skillets are. As my priest oft repeated to the girls in CYO - the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus acknowledged it had to be cleaned out when the money changers took over the temple.
 
Don't discount your clothing...

Kind of piggybacking off of Sox's point about clothing and personal defense. Slash-resistant clothing is really something. I'm not sure if anyone had an opportunity to try that stuff out, but it is truly remarkable. We tried as hard as we could to slash that fabric- even with box cutters- wasn't happening. Dragging a blade across it feels like trying to slash cut glass. Incredible stuff.
 
What the heck, is the officer going to arrest you for having a small shovel to dig yourself out of a rut?

Give me a break. These people are not your god overlords.

They would have no right to take a small shovel from you.
 
What the heck, is the officer going to arrest you for having a small shovel to dig yourself out of a rut?
I doubt it or I wouldn't keep a small shovel in my car.

But I also store it with my other TOOLS, I don't carry it around with me or place it so that it's obvious that I'm concerned about having it be quick to access while all my other TOOLS are all stored in a plastic bin in the trunk.

The point is that if you, by your actions, make it clear that you intend for the object to be a weapon, and a reasonable person understands that it is a weapon, then you shouldn't expect to be taken seriously when you try to pretend that it's not a weapon--even if it does have other non-weapon uses.

Things get even shakier if you buy the item from a company that advertises the item as a weapon, or, for example, posts videos of people destroying human analogs with the item.

Look, if you want to carry a weapon in your car, then just carry a conventional weapon. There are legal ways to do that virtually anywhere. The whole point of this thread is things that are effective weapons that don't appear to be weapons at all and that can therefore be carried in contexts where weapons can not. Try to walk onto a college campus with your shovel hanging from your belt. Try carrying it into your office or putting it into your carry on luggage and see what happens.
 
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Cooldill- I think in your post you mentioned the shovel in your back seat. I'm up in CT, we have a knife law that the blade cannot be 4 inches or over in length outside your home unless you have a hunting/fishing license and are actively hunting/fishing. There's a lot of blade length on that CS shovel.

JShirley- that's one reservation I have about the water bottle, or tactical pens I see. They aren't subtle.
 
Had a buddy that was a rural postman some years ago. He told me he fought off a pack of big dogs one time with a fire extinguisher hose and his steel toed boots. He did get bit a couple times but he was able to put some serious hurt on the dogs. The hose was metal mesh and rubber with a steel nozzle. He said he split one of the dogs head wide open with it.
 
I'm in and out of airports frequently as I travel around the country so it is important for me to select defensive tools that get through security screening. If you make a point of looking for "normal" looking items that fill the defensive tool role to add to your kit they usually pass without a second glance. The more something looks normal in that setting the better.

If you carry a defensive pen that looks like a weapon then it will get tagged as such.

I see a lot of reusable plastic and metal water bottles and a lot of scarves. I see cameras (ever heft one of the rugged water proof tuff types of "pocket" cameras?). Plenty of pens and pencils. Lots of books (real hard cover books). The occasional skate board. The occasional monkey fist (but I see those with ball bearings sacrificed all the time at security) and lots of paracord "tactical macrame". Think about those things that by themselves are innocuous, but rapidly assembled into something more effective as a weapon.

Look for all the junk people are carrying when they fly and think what that could be used for defensively.
 
The cane and umbrella are probably 1a and 1b as far as take anywhere, versatile items, that also make excellent defensive tools if pushed into service.
The stockman's cane is a slam-dunk, no-brainer and can usually be had between $10-$20. How about something on the umbrella side of things...

I'm a big fan of the Unbreakable Umbrella (and own several), but it is out of reach for the purposes of this thread. Although I don't think that you'll be able to find anything close to the crooked handle version (it's that good) on the cheap, you could find something in the straight handle category that would be a reasonable alternative. For these though, you want to avoid the drugstore versions, Totes and the like, because they fold like a cheap suit. The golf umbrella is probably your best bet here. Most have fiberglass ribs and shaft and can take a beating pretty well.

http://www.amazon.com/All-Weather-Elite-inch-Black-Umbrella/dp/B00KLDB866/ref=lp_3411091_1_12/180-2927862-5273436?s=golf&ie=UTF8&qid=1453110426&sr=1-12

Can't forget about the training, of course. Some good stuff on the subject can be found online and there are plenty of videos on YT. Additional reading on bayonet fighting is also extremely helpful.
 
I don't think bayonet training really extends well to fighting with umbrella or cane. Stick fighting is much more applicable, IMO.

I just updated the E Tool thread with some feedback from yesterday~ the Marbles "Machete Shovel" may not be a great axe or shovel, but it would certainly do in at least one attacker, and for the price (less than $22 shipped right now for Prime members, including sheath), it's a lot more practical than many more obvious weapons that will probably be even less effective.

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Here's a "blast from the past". Notice the water bottle in the article... https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/the-daily-carry-blade-common-sense-and-the-knife/
 
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