I miss my Lee dies

http://www.titanreloading.com/lee-carbide-or-steel-3-die-sets/41-magnum-3-die-set-carbide

They have them.

http://www.titanreloading.com/lee-carbide-or-steel-3-die-sets/41-magnum-3-die-set-carbide

and if you want the dreaded FCD

http://www.titanreloading.com/lee-crimp-dies/41-mag-carbide-crimp-die-

You're not the first and won't be the last to forget about the shell holder. I think you'll like the dies, once you get to use them.

I don't understand why companies do that (actually I do, but it seems counter productive to me)

I recently ordered what I thought was a pair of QD sling swivel for a rifle off of Amazon. The picture showed two but the price was for 1 each. Irritated at both the company for its misleading depiction and myself for not paying more attention to detail.

Note to companies. Be more clear what your customers are getting, and not getting, when they order your product.

I don't mind so much the dies not coming with shell holders as I know this is the norm for these companies. What aggravates me is when the companies that sell the dies don't carry the shell holders for all the dies sets they offer.

Wait till you buy a set of Redding Competition dies for 8x the price of the Lee dies and still don't get a shellholder.

I have a list in my wallet of Hornady, RCBS, and Redding shellholders that I need to purchase.

I like to keep a shellholders in each set of dies.

Just buy a set of Lee shell holders and you will be prepared for such set backs in the future.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Lee-...=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=22641602&rid=20

rc

I personally don't mind them leaving out the shellholder. In general, after a while, you'll end up with a LOT of rounds that all use them same one. There's no reason in getting a shell holder with every die set when my .308, .30-06, .270, and 7mm-08 all use the same holder (as does 9mm and .40S&W for Lee). You just end up with a lot of duplicates after a while.

What has brought me to buying Hornady dies almost excusively lately is their bullet rebate. For $6 in S&H I can get 100 bullets when I buy a set of dies. Considering that 100 Hornady rifle bullets usually runs $25 + S&H it's a pretty good deal.

Besides I pretty much exclusively use Lee shellholders anyways (even with many different brands of dies). When I reference the chart to find out what goes with what I don't want different numbering systems and brands mixing things up. If they're all Lee, then they're all the same chart.

mgmorden said:

I personally don't mind them leaving out the shellholder. In general, after a while, you'll end up with a LOT of rounds that all use them same one. There's no reason in getting a shell holder with every die set when my .308, .30-06, .270, and 7mm-08 all use the same holder (as does 9mm and .40S&W for Lee). You just end up with a lot of duplicates after a while.

What has brought me to buying Hornady dies almost excusively lately is their bullet rebate. For $6 in S&H I can get 100 bullets when I buy a set of dies. Considering that 100 Hornady rifle bullets usually runs $25 + S&H it's a pretty good deal.

Besides I pretty much exclusively use Lee shellholders anyways (even with many different brands of dies). When I reference the chart to find out what goes with what I don't want different numbering systems and brands mixing things up. If they're all Lee, then they're all the same chart.

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In my case I have I have 3 presses a Lee and a Hornady single stage and a Hornady LnL AP Progressive.
When I use Hornady shellholders in the Hornady single stage I am able to transfer the dies to the progressive and they are ready to go. When I use the Lee or RCBS shellholders adjustments must be made.

thump_rrr said:

In my case I have I have 3 presses a Lee and a Hornady single stage and a Hornady LnL AP Progressive.
When I use Hornady shellholders in the Hornady single stage I am able to transfer the dies to the progressive and they are ready to go. When I use the Lee or RCBS shellholders adjustments must be made.

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Yeah I've a LNL but my single stage is a Rockchucker Supreme. For the most part though anything I load on one I don't do on the other (it's mostly pistol on the LNL and rifle on the RCBS). Plus I'm cheap so I only have like 6 bushings. Even on the LNL if I swap dies I just readjust all of them. .

Buy a Forster Co-Ax and you won't have to worry about shellholders ....

I'm new to re-loading and decided to go LEE all the way. I love the simplicity of the whole system.

Actually as of today Midway shows Lee 41 Magnum Dies in stock. Amazon is also another option. Yes, Lee is about the only one that includes a shell holder with the die set. Most hand loaders who load several calibers just have a shell holder set.

Lee Universal Shell Holder Set.
Lyman Shell Holder Pack.

You take a one time hit of several bucks but are now covered for just about all popular sizes. Nothing worse than getting all setup to load only to discover you don't have a shell holder that you need. For anything odd I may need I keep the shell holder in the same box with my dies.

Ron

If memory serves me correctly Hornady includes a shell holder in their American series die sets. Most of my dies I buy now are Lee. If I already have the shell holder I buy the RGB series. I have dies by just about every manufacturer. Lee works as well for me as any.

Perhaps they dont include a shell holder because one shell holder may fit over a dozen different cartridges and they don't want to waste money shipping a shell holder to someone who may already have it.

I don't use Lee dies for lead bullets but do need their powder through expander for my Lee turret powder measure. I have always been happy with their dies though and prefer their sizer design.

My latest 41 set was for a turret to dedicate to 41 Special. I couldn't find any sets with a combo seat/crimp, so I wound up with an RCBS sizer and expander coupled with a Lee PTE and finally a Hornady Seat/crimp.

My first 41 Magnum set came from such a scarcity of dies that I spent a LOT of money on a micrometer seating die cobbled together with a Redding sizer and crimp die from different sources. Those have worked well with no apparent consequences from being a grunt tight on lead bullets. I would very much have preferred to find a less expensive set, but was not patient enough to search indefinitely or sit on some black hole backorder list.

Naturally, my shell holder came from a separate purchase.

SARuger said:

I'm new to re-loading and decided to go LEE all the way. I love the simplicity of the whole system.

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I'm guessing you haven't crossed paths with a Load Master yet.

I'm guessing you haven't crossed paths with a Load Master yet.

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Their stuff has worked well for me, certainly my turret press and accessories, but the LM is indeed their entry for The Reloading Hall of Shame. I am not clever enough to keep one running, nor do I want to spend any more time tinkering with it and researching mods.

ATLDave, if you need the powder through die don't forget to order that too.

I use mostly RCBS rifle dies but when it comes to handgun dies its mostly Lee. I do however like the Nitride sizing dies made by Hornady. They make resizing almost effortless. When Midway USA ran a sale a while back I bought Hornady sizing dies for several pistol cartridges.

I swear by Lee dies too. When I started loading 380 I couldnt find a Lee set locally. I ended up buying a Hornady set. It sucked. The primary reason being that it came with a seating/ROLL crimp die! The supplied literarure suggested that I buy the optional taper crimp die. I couldnt believe it. Who roll crimps 380acp!? After one or two loading sessions I was so disgusted that I threw the entire set in the trash and ordered a decent (Lee) set of dies online.

Hornady bullets... sure, bur I will never buy their equipment again.

I have both sets of Lee shell holders so it doesn't bother me if a die set has no shell holder.

Recently got into 9mm, so I got the 4-die Lee set (which includes the FCD), and got the Lyman "M" die for bell-mouthing. I cannot be happier. Learned my lesson on .357 mag. How some can spend more than Lee on other dies is beyond me. (Too bad Lee does not have its own equivalent to the Lyman die.)