GF gun part ONE

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Im surprised to get so much flame for this attempt, which I thought was going to be a nice thing to do for her.

Probably cause some of us have already learned from the same mistake.

There are a couple guns in my safe that I will never shoot bought the same way. When my wife finally picked her own. It wasnt something I would personally buy, even though there is nothing wrong with her choice. (Glock 19)
 
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It sounds like you have taken her to the gun store a few times to hold some different guns. You should be writing down all of the ones she likes and save it for later. I have three recommendations of pistols (not an exhaustive list by any means) that she might want to take a look at. Only one is one of those plastic thingies (which I happen to own).

Glock 19 Gen 4

Full size 1911 in 9mm

Beretta 92FS
 
You are in the 'pay me now or pay me later' predicament. Would you like your girlfriend to pick out a handgun for you? Probably not. Let her decide and the money you spent on her behalf will repay itself on your behalf many times over. 'Ain't nobody happy unless mama happy'.
 
She likes the beretta nano, and I do as well, although that's based on a defensive pistol point of view, never shot one. Also, that gun is in a very crowded class of excellent new aged pistols. They just look like they would be a bit snappy. Maybe smaller hands actually help here, my hands are large enough to make some grips quite awkward, I still love small guns though, and she does too.
I dunno, I'm thinking you guys are right she needs to buy it, but knowing some models to look for would be helpful, and heck, it's winter and there's nothing else to do here but talk about guns so thanks for humoring me.

Full size 1911 would probably be good or maybe a commander or officer model so she can feel petite. I think the 92fs would be a bit large gripped for her. They probably make thin grips for them.
 
She likes the beretta nano, and I do as well, although that's based on a defensive pistol point of view, never shot one. Also, that gun is in a very crowded class of excellent new aged pistols. They just look like they would be a bit snappy. Maybe smaller hands actually help here, my hands are large enough to make some grips quite awkward, I still love small guns though, and she does too.
I dunno, I'm thinking you guys are right she needs to buy it, but knowing some models to look for would be helpful, and heck, it's winter and there's nothing else to do here but talk about guns so thanks for humoring me.

Full size 1911 would probably be good or maybe a commander or officer model so she can feel petite. I think the 92fs would be a bit large gripped for her. They probably make thin grips for them.
If you go the 1911 route, I'd say stick with something with no less than a 4" barrel. I've encountered a number more problems with Officers sized pistols when compared to Government and Commander sized pistols. The only sub 4" 1911 that I've had run completely problem free is a Springfield EMP in 9mm. Both Kimber Ultras that I had were problematic with ejecting spent casings (and yes I did have my ejector and extractor checked). The Colt Defender that I had wasn't around long enough for me to reach a conclusion.
 
Winkman822 said:
I'm not sure whether your wife's P225 is an original, but there is currently the P225-A1 which is a re-release that's slightly updated and may be worth the OP taking a little time to look it over if an alloy frame is an absolute must.

Yep, it is. I didn't know they'd re-released the 225, thanks, now I'm going to have to go check those out.

corton93 said:
+1 to what tiamat said. Don't know the budget your working with, but if you wanted something that (for me anyways) is small enough for CC but a pleasure to take to the range i'd give a good look at a Sig P239 (or P225-A1). Slightly smaller than a Glock 19 but boy, it is substantial and feels like your shooting a full size. Granted, this is assuming you can handle the weight, 29.5oz empty. It's a chunk but is a great recreational gun. Plus, assuming you carry it in DA mode (you'd be brave not too). It's got the same traits that draw people to carry revolvers, just with the added benefit of having a sweet 4.5lb trigger from the 2nd shot thru empty. But im all opinion, no expertise.

I actually have a P239 in 9mm as well, but I didn't mention it because this was about wives/GF's and what they like to shoot. I think it is a good recommendation though, thanks for mentioning it.

There's something about that P225 grip though... its just soo darn comfortable.
 
First, go and actually read the thread linked in post #4.
Then, have her read it.
The light bulb will come on.
 
We are pretty much a Glock family but do own a Nano and Ruger LCP. I'm selling the Nano to get another G43 as neither me or my wife are crazy about it. It's ok but does not have a slide lock and has a long trigger pull. My wife loves her G19 but carries a G42 because it's lighter. I also carry a 42 in my pocket every day. I let my wife decide which one she likes and she shoots two divisions in GSSF matches. And that's another story.
 
We are all individuals and the market is large and getting larger. It is hard for a beginner to pick.

Anecdote:
A friend of the feminine persuasion got interested, I let her shoot several guns side by side. A 1911oid looked good to start with but she later did better with Hubby's Glock 17 and has been shooting it as an IDPA SSP Marksman.
Today she reported with girlish glee that she had put a Glock 34 Gen 3 on hold until the snow quits. I thought she would like the Gen 4 because of its variable grip and big magazine catch button, but she handled them both and went with the Gen 3.
She has also replaced the S&W Airweight Hubby had considerately selected for her with a Ruger LCP of her own choice.

there is currently the P225-A1 which is a re-release that's slightly updated
More like a new gun that they have hung the old model number on to enhance sales. Not even magazines interchange, P225 to P225 A1.
 
First, go and actually read the thread linked in post #4.
Then, have her read it.
The light bulb will come on.

Check. Pretty much echoed everything I already said, but thanks. She's decided 9mm is what she would like, and I'm listening despite not having the slightest interest in it as a cartridge. Now, if I were to advise her on caliber I would've suggested she stick with a cartridge that I already reload so that her ammo would essentially be very cheap and always available, but this is going to be her gun and her ammo so I'm reserving that very pertinent advice for myself. If she's inclined to tool up for reloading 9mm I'd consider doing it for her or helping her do it herself if she's interested. However, 9mm is pretty cheap and available so it's not that big a deal I suppose.

Here she is trying out a friends gun, also in 9mm.
 

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If it doesn't have to be a semi...

Consider a good revolver. My wife prefers Rugers, and has a couple 357's, though she shoots 38's. Strongly agreed with other's suggestion that you let her at least handle, if not shoot some options before buying. Good luck,
Kcace
 
My gf loves a 38 revolver, can't stand any of my autos. She has an sr22, but you already have 22s. What about a keltec pmr30?
 
Rental is a good suggestion although the only shop that rents around here has limited selection and been dwindling for years. Not sure where we can try otherwise. I appreciate everyone's suggestions of letting her decide, but as a beginner her decision points might not serve her as well in the real world of us having fun practicing. Many guns have been sold on appearances rather than actual usefulness or fun factor.
She definitely has it in her head that 9mm is the caliber of choice and while I don't own anything in that cal I tend to agree based on cost, availability, and power factor. It's a real cartridge and can knock down a steel plate whereas smaller ones would seem to fall off the cliff of limitation in power.
I also agree the biggest heaviest pistol she can comfortably handle would be good for her. I'd like her to have a traditional manual safety for learning purposes but weapons with them are becoming quite rare it seems.


Stow your ego and let her choose it, Paddy. If she is not confident in the pistol, she will not practice with it. Or is that your plan?:scrutiny:
 
Lol not sure. Maybe I'm being egotistical but I really don't think so. I just wanted her to avoid making the common mistake of buying a gun based on factors that don't relate at all to actually shooting it. But honestly this conversation has sort of put me off on the whole idea so I'll just buy her flowers instead. So, I thank you all for saving me 300-500$.
 
Don't despair Paddy. You're in no rush. You and your GF should go over to this site and do some reading and thinking.

www.thecorneredcat.com

The site is developed by a woman for women but it's one of the best general purpose handgun sites on the web. It has thoughtful advice that comes from experience and is useful for men and women.

Here's a bit on buying handguns.

Too much help?

Many women have discovered that even if they have a husband or friend ready and willing to do every last bit of the legwork or even purchase a gun for them, it really pays off to do your own shopping anyway.

“My husband bought me my first gun,” says Jennie van Tuyl, a gun shop owner in Washington. “He tried to research which guns had smaller grips for me. We learned the hard way that one needs to be involved in the shopping for her own gun. I decided I needed a gun that fit my hand better and was easier to conceal.”

Many women could sing along on that chorus. The well-meant gift gun that ends up gathering dust in a deserted drawer or (better) in the back of the safe is very nearly a clich’. Almost as trite is the gun purchased by a loved one while the woman comes along as a silent partner rather than an active participant.

The people behind the counter often share frustration with this turn of events. Tamara Keel, former sales manager at Coal Creek Armory in Knoxville, Tennessee, says, “You know it just annoys me so much to have to elbow the man out of the way to make the sale to her. She’s got to want the gun for herself and it’s got to be what she wants, or it’s just going to end up getting shoved into her nightstand drawer anyway.”

Larry Correia, formerly part owner of a gun store in Draper, Utah, agrees. “Sometimes couples will come in, and he’s just dragging her along. We are going to end up selling them the gun he wants her to have, rather than the gun she really wants or needs, and that just doesn’t do anyone any good. It is really better if she speaks up.”

What this boils down to is that no matter how tempting it might be to let someone else drive your handgun purchase, you are more likely to be happy with the end result if you actively drive the process yourself.

http://www.corneredcat.com/article/choosing-firearms/gun-store-miss-adventures/

tipoc
 
Yeah good points. I'll check out that link and see if she's interested. If her desire is sincere, she will do more research and really find a gun that she wants that isn't based solely on grip feel at the local sport and stuff store. I'll try to stay out of it as much as I can, although I will try to steer her toward a gun with some mehnaical cred.
 
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