Pedersoli-Remington Custom Target revolver?

I was just looking around the Hege shop to see what's on sale. They offer a Uberti built to Hege specifications with a Lothar-Walther match grade barrel for 688 Euros. That's not a bad deal for a match grade gun. Now I'm itching for it together with two holsters and a belt.

Damnit

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That's what you want right there, that Lothar-Walther barrel.

Hope you get it!!!

Well, that's a damn shame. Tried to order it figuring I can buy the wife something nice so she doesn't complain about it, then it turns out they don't deliver outside of Germany, and nice as it is, I ain't going to drive to Germany just to pick it up.

If you still want one, talk to this guy, He'll get you one.


http://www.westernguns.fr/

See this post,

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=752788&highlight=Hege

Thanks a lot, sent him a mail A lot of interesting things on that site at fair prices (for the EU, anyway), too.

Now I need to buy my wife something expensive

There's also this Pietta which is comparable to the Pedersoli but does not have the matte finish. If it's like the USA version it has progressive rifling, dovetail front sight, silver trigger guard and the original Remington barrel address, which is pretty cool.

http://www.westernguns.fr/armes-de-poings/148-pietta-1858-remington-pas-progressif-competition.html

Yeah, but since I already have an Uberti 1858 which I'm really happy with, and I wanted to mate it to something which is as similar as possible. Pedersoli has a different finish and Pietta has some minor differences. Plus, if something happens with the internals, the parts inside the action are the same so I only need to stock a couple of extra Uberti parts (having an extra trigger spring and a few minor other parts isn't a bad thing).

Anyway, ordered it, will probably be here in about 20 days, together with a left and right holster, belt, a couple of cylinder holsters and other things. It's a bit more expensive then buying one local in Germany, but, well, such is life and people need to make a living. Can't wait to give it a go at the range

That's great!!! Good thinking also about the spare parts and all and mating this Hege with its Lothar-Walther barrel with your other Remington. Like to see it and how it shoots after you get it up and running.

Are you going to use it in competitions?

branko_d keep us posted plus do a video so we all can see how it shoots!!

Oh, I will post pictures when it gets here, and of the rig also. Yes, it will be used in competition as well as recreation. There's a BP competition in April, looking forward to using the gun there.


Have to practice more to tighten the grouping a bit and eliminate the flyers, but, fortunately, shooting is fun, BP shooting even more so

I agree and buying a piece of equipment like that and not competing with it is sort of deadheading. But, like any firearm it may take a while to get up and running. I've been working on loads for my 1860 Army repro since buying it in December 2012 and I'm still not satisfied and still experimenting trying to get that last drop of accuracy out of it.

As always, Good Luck with it!!!

The Pedersoli is a pretty decent pistol (less than 1/3 -1/2 of the Hege-Uberti Ultra-Custom Match with shipping and import duties)!

AbitNutz said:

I'm thinking of picking up a Uberti 1858 Remington in stainless steel and sending it to Goon's gunworks for the "full monte" treatment. I wish there was a stainless trigger guard available instead of the brass one. While I like brass on some things, I think it looks out of place on a stainless gun...just my opinion.

Where's the least expensive place to pick up a stainless Uberti Remington 1858? I see that Midway has the 8" fixed sight version for $424.00.

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Have the trigger guard plated. I think it would look great nickel plated

Fixed sights on a new Uberti? All the newer Ubertis I've seen have a dovetailed front sight.

Hege-Uberti Remington NMA

As I promised, I'd post something on the Hege-Uberti after I got it. Thanks for helping me find a supplier, Crawdad!

My Hege arrived today, together with a pair of leather holsters, belt, and cylinder pouches I hoped it would arrive on Friday so I could take it shooting on Sunday but, I can wait for six more days. Anyway, without futher ado, here they are, in the new holsters:



And the Hege out of the holster:



So, let's take a closer look at it, in comparison to it's mate, the Uberti NMA.

Frame

The frame is the same; it comes with small Italian proof marks on the right side, the serial number and year of manufacture below the grip (both my new Hege and my 'old' Uberti are 2014 guns, serial numbers less then 100 apart) with the Uberti logo. Cylinders and nipples are the same as on the Uberti (I simply did not have trouble with the stock nipples, so I did not order the extra beryllium-something-something nipples). Finish is very nice on both guns. Visually the barrel-cylinder gap looks similar, which is to say, very little and visible only with a light on the other side.. I can push a single sheet of normal A4 paper through both with some effort but that is about it. I do not have a feeler gauge to measure it.

Barrel
The barrel looks similar from the outside, except it says "Lothar Walther Lauf" on the side and "Original Hege-Uberti" on the top. The markings are discrete enough not to bother me aesthetically.

Once we take a look at the muzzle end, the differences are obvious:



The Uberti barrel (on the left) has a larger and more prominent crown, and the groove to groove diameter is visibly larger on the Uberti than it is on the Lothar Walther barrel, the Uberti having a visibly greater groove depth. The Lothar Walther barrel has visible progressive twist, although by the end both have a similar twist rate of about 1:18 or 1:19 inches by the look of it. I cannot take a picture of it, but the Hege barrel from the inside looks like a mirror. That isn't to say that my Uberti barrel is rough (it also shines... well, after cleaning), but this is a mirror-like polish.

I've pushed a conical down the barrel of the Uberti, and afterwards it would definitely not pass through the Lothar-Walther barrel and some hammering on the ramrod (don't worry, brass and a muzzle protector, naturally) was required to push it down the bore. It is tricky to accurately measure this with my tools but it appears that the Hege barrel's groove to groove diameter is only .448 at most, while the Uberti's groove to groove diameter seems to be about .450. Uberti cylinders (on both guns) measure .448, also. I'll have to borrow some precision tools from a machinist friend of mine to make accurate measurements. It has an odd number of grooves so this makes measuring a bit approximative in nature.

Action
Both feel pretty similar, with the Hege feeling less lubricated for obvious reasons. I'll take it apart tommorow - my daughter wanted to help taking it apart for the first time, and then factory preservative will be scrubbed clean and I'll put a layer of Ballistol on it. The mainspring feels just a bit stiffer with just a bit heavier whack of the hammer then the Uberti, which is good.

Dry firing (cylinder out, of course, don't want to abuse those nipples) they both feel pretty light, but without a way to measure them the best I could say is something around 3 to 4 pounds. I will need more time with the guns to say which one feels smoother, but they both feel pretty smooth; I did gently polish the internals of the Uberti.

Lockup is bank safe tight on the Hege, and with a very slight bit of play on the Uberti.

What else? Well, to fire them, obviously (and register the new gun, of course), but this will have to wait for the weekend. However, given the Uberti is a pretty accurate and reliable gun itself (it digests conicals especially well, interestingly enough) I expect the Hege-Uberti to shoot really well. By the way, with shallow grooves, any ideas what sort of projectile this would favour? I guess I'll have to bring all sorts of different things and try. It's a good thing that shooting is fun

You are very welcome Branko!!! And thank you for the extensive write up comparing the two revolvers. The new Uberti Remington is an excellent revolver with its forged frame and dovetailed front sight. Mine was an exceptional shooter,





Are you planning on competing with this new revolver?

Is that a factory antiqued finish or did you remove the bluing? Looks like the genuine article. Very nice

Anyway, yes, it will be used in competition. There's one in April, and I guess if I spend double the time on the range I can have this one running well enough to score reasonably well.

I have another case of Uberti supertightened screw (and it's the screw which brings together the hammer and hand, which means, I really don't want to drill it out). Currently it's soaking in acetone and oil mix. We'll see. They really need to talk to the guy who walks at night with the torque wrench. This is becoming not funny.

I hope you can get that screw out without too much problem. I am looking forward to hearing how it shoots, especially since you are a competitive shooter.

Thank you Branko, that's Uberti factory antique finish. I'll have to tell you though I just can't see that skinny front sight on the Remington or I would have kept it.

On your revolver I bettin the house that the chambers and barrel caliber are maximized for accuracy. I found that Remington's are not as picky about what loads they like to digest as the Colts are but, like any black powder revolver, they can be picky and you may have to take some time and work up a good load for it.

Good luck with it. That's one heck of a shooting iron you got there.

Now you can run with the big boys