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West Virginia is making progress each and every legislative session. Constitutional Carry is the big apple we are all reaching for this year. Almost got it last year, except the liberal governor vetoed it at zero hour so there was no time for an override. This year it is being pushed through earlier and unless some unforeseen maneuver by a anti-second amendment legislator sets up a road block (unlikely) it will pass, be vetoed by the governor and then that veto overridden.

The growing in strength West Virginia Citizens Defense League is behind the push and doing a wonderful job. I encourage all West Virginian's who value their civil rights to join WVCDL.
Good Luck West Virginia!
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Reporting here from gun control central. Unfortunately, California is a good cautionary tale of what can and will happen in many of your states, especially under a Hillary Presidency with a liberal majority SCOTUS. I am looking at you Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Nevada, the Cancer from California anti-gunners is spreading to your states, please stamp it out before it goes malignant.

OTOH, as a California resident, I own ARs, AKs, AR pistol, AOW and I could own a C&R SBS and SBR, if I could ever find an NFA papered example that was affordable. I have my CCW. "No gun" signs do not carry the force of law here. I can legally carry anywhere in the state besides federal buildings and schools. So things aren't as hopeless as many outside the state think they are, at the moment, but we have more than a dozen anti-gun, anti-constitutional ABs and SBs in the pipeline and Governor Moonbeam Jerry Brown will sign some of them. Three of them will make all semi-auto long guns into assault weapons requiring registration and we will never be able to sell them or hand them down to our kids/family member. When we die, those rifles can only be destroyed or sold out of state. We have the insane handgun roster which is slowly and steadily reducing the models of handguns that dealers can sell, it's a defacto handgun ban. The next Governor will be Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom, the ex mayor of San Francisco so that tells you all you need to know. He will sign ANY anti gun bill that crosses his desk in 2018 when he is elected (yes, in this state, we already know which politicians will be next in line, it's very predictable).

Basically, give it five years here and we will be mostly over-regulated out of gun ownership, I give it ten years and the state, other than criminals and LEOs will be almost completely disarmed, perhaps they will let us have single shot shotguns and .22s. For new gun owners, the hoops they have to jump though are already approaching NYC and New Jersey levels of idiocy, tests, exams, plus the roster, plus the added cost to just do everything and buy a gun and ammo. It took me more than $500.00 to obtain my CCW and an 8 month wait. The wait in my county now is up to 14 months. Newsom is presently floating a voter initiative that will require BG checks and a permit to buy ammo, no more Internet ammo sales and the total illegality of presently grandfathered in magazines with greater than 10 round capacity, I predict that will easily be voted in by the sheeple of California. Basically, the average Californian despises us and is terrified of the average gun owner. To them, we are all white supremacist, redneck racists who love guns and want to kill them. To them, guns have a mind of their own also and can wake up, walk down the street and randomly kill their children. The media and Sacramento brainwashing has been very effective and being the state with the most legal immigrants and illegal aliens, almost all vote Democrat, almost all are anti-gun and pro statist. They are used to being part of a disarmed populace with a tyrannical government in their home country so when they come here, they vote for the same thing. We have some minority groups who are very pro gun generally but they too are overshadowed by their own groups in numbers of anti-gunners. I have a couple of friends who are black and own guns and shoot with me, but generally, most blacks vote anti-gun. I have several Filipino friends who are gun fanatics, but many Filipinos actually vote anti-gun. Same with other Asian groups. It's really the same story over and over here, a few good people who see the value of the 2A but we are outnumbered in the millions who buy the tripe that the state government and politicians put out that guns are inherently evil and gun owners should be shamed into giving up their 2A rights. It's insane, it feels as if we are living in the Twilight Zone where people just want to destroy everything that makes this country great. California is definitely one of the top three anti-American ideal states.

in short, California is a lost cause for gun rights and should serve as an excellent cautionary tale of what can and will happen in ANY of the other 49 states, IF the state government and the people don't ensure that the Constitution is still the law of this land. Don't think it can't happen in your state, it can. There are plenty of freedom loving, anti-statist, pro Consitutional, law abiding citizens in this state. Problem is, there aren't enough of them to counter the mindless sheeple of Los Angeles and San Francisco (and yes, there some great, patriotic gun owners living in those two hell holes but they are really a minority). Don't say, "just vote them out", we don't have even close to the numbers needed to do so, it's a lost cause.
 
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Capybara, wow I'm sorry you all have to put up with that crap, and it seems there is no hope of ever voting the gun grabbing politicians out of states like CA or NY. And I'm sure people will chime in and say "just move" but when you've got a house and job and family and your kids like their school, it's impractical to expect the whole family to willingly uproot and move away just because you want your guns.

Here in MN it seems any kind of anti-gun talk comes out of the twin cities politicians, and that represents about half the state population. There is just enough rural vote to veto them, but it really is coming down to a rural/self-reliant vs urban/dependency mindset when it comes to guns.
 
Ohio's making slow but steady progress.

We've gotten rid of the thirty round magazine capacity limit.

Next to go should be mandatory notification of police when carrying.
 
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VA is (mostly) holding steady. Other than the temporary loss of reciprocity, which is leading to increased reciprocity out of the hands of the AG, nothing is changing.

Still no BG check for private party transfer.

Open carry is still legal without a permit.

C/C permits are still easy to get.

NFA items are still legal... and you can hunt with them.

So, other than the expanding blight surrounding DC... it's pretty steady


Over the past 5 or 6 years the gun LAWS in Virginia have only improved.

Removal of the Wilder era 1 handgun a month law

Law preventing Local Governments from preventing their employees from having guns in their vehicles. (odd that did not extend to the State Government, although there are Bills addressing that this year)

Law Protecting the Privacy of CHP owners.

Law allowing carrying loaded handgun in a latching compartment in a vehicle without requiring a CHP

Removal of the Counties having the option to require fingerprinting for CHP.

The Bills which are making headway are generally pro-gun. Unfortunately, these Bills will need to avoid McAuliffe's veto, or have his veto overturned by a 2/3 majority.

The problem is the Governor and Attorney General. Both of them are VERY anti-gun. The Executive Order banning firearms in Executive Branch Agencies was McAuliffe. The reduction in reciprocity was Herring.

So, the anti-gun trend in Virginia is not LAWS, but Executive branch declarations.
 
As a former 35 year resident of the "no-longer-Golden-State" of California, I agree with what Capybara has written. What makes matters worse is that the people (both politicians and voters) responsible for the malaise that is destroying the RKBA in CA are equally active in bringing CA to its knees economically. It stands as the poster child for all the bad things that can be self-inflicted in a one party, "progressive" state. IMO, California is well down the road to ending up like Detroit, or worse yet, Greece.
 
Well detailed cautionary tale, capybara. It is a real pity to watch such a beautiful state with a lot of good people go down the tubes. Things can change though so don't give up hope. As the leftist policies bankrupt more and more cities and even, perhaps, the state, you might finally see a voter uprising against the dems. Perhaps it is just wishful thinking of this native San Diegan (left when I was young but visited relatives there my entire youth).

You should consider sending your cautionary tale off to print media outlets in other states.
 
" I think the passing of universal background checks in Oregon was a good thing."

Good idea?! Only if you support an unconstitutional database of the simplest transfer of a firearm from one citizen to another. It may be an "improvement" from current "law" but it seems a clear incentive to live somewhere else.

You are welcome in Tennessee...
 
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Illinois has gotten better with RKBA by leaps and bounds over the last decade---much owing to the efforts of the NRA, ISRA & other aligned groups winning in court.

-Shall Issue CCW
-Chicago defacto pistol ban via closed registry abolished--and registry there abolished
-SBR's now possible.

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Ongoing attempts by the (ever smaller) Chi gun ban gang to attempt a state AWB, .50 BMG ban,standard mag ban have been fought off successfully. Private sales still legal.

Hunters can now also take 1 bobcat a season---something altogether new.

More than single things is the sea-change that MacDonald brought to any public discourse on guns and policy here in Illinois; all conversations now start from the flat-fact understanding that the RKBA is accepted law. The debate is over, and it is a good feeling. Sure, the bliss-ninnies will *always* try to gain traction here as they have since 1968, but the rug has been pulled from under them.

While things have changed rather dramatically in the northern 1/3-half of the state, things have moved more slowly here in Southern Illinois.
With the state's current budget crisis and impasse, things have slowed down. The ISP's "review board" was reformed early last year but has yet to get caught up with all the CCW permits that have had problems with their passage. Certain LEAs (you know who you are!) are gaming the system and raising objections to an inordinate number of applicants. This adds to the backlog of cases the review board has to resolve, all of which takes additional time.
The Illinois State Rifle Association (isra.org) and others are working hard to reduce the number of GFZ/CPZs, to get suppressors allowed, more reciprocity for our permits, lower costs involved with the required training, etc.
So, while there have been SOME improvements, the pace has been "glacial".
 
We have it pretty good in Alabama. A few years ago we went from may issue to shall issue for CCW. It was much debated whether open carry was legal but a couple of years ago we got legislated open carry. The latest thing we got was being able to be issued a permit for up to five years. Last year I walked into my county sheriff's office, they ran me through the computer, I wrote them a check for $75 ($15 per year) and walked out with a permit good for five years.
Oh, and Remington opened a new firearms plant in Huntsville Alabama instead of NY at least partly because of the favorable gun laws in Alabama.
 
Iowa has stayed pretty much the same, I think, since getting Shall Issue CCW in 2010. We've tried to pass quite a few different Pro-Gun bills since then, but they all keep getting shot down.

My fingers are crossed that this'll be the year that we get silencers OK'd. (There was a bill that tried to get all NFA OK'd while still subject to federal law a few years ago, but didn't get nearly enough support)

There are a couple of other bills so far that will pass our House: Allowing us to teach our kids under 15 how to shoot a handgun, Allowing hunters to CCW, and Allowing ATV riders to CCW. Given the past few years lack of progress in our Senate, I'm not convinced that they'll all become law this year.

We'll see.
 
Iowa has stayed pretty much the same, I think, since getting Shall Issue CCW in 2010. We've tried to pass quite a few different Pro-Gun bills since then, but they all keep getting shot down.

My fingers are crossed that this'll be the year that we get silencers OK'd. (There was a bill that tried to get all NFA OK'd while still subject to federal law a few years ago, but didn't get nearly enough support)

There are a couple of other bills so far that will pass our House: Allowing us to teach our kids under 15 how to shoot a handgun, Allowing hunters to CCW, and Allowing ATV riders to CCW. Given the past few years lack of progress in our Senate, I'm not convinced that they'll all become law this year.

We'll see.

What?!?
 
In Iowa it is currently against the law to allow our children under 14 (I was incorrect in my previous post) to handle a pistol.

I couldn't believe it when I heard either. I moved here a little over 3 years ago, and it's possible that I may have broken that law (unknowingly of course) before I learned the letter of the law. I can only let the younger ones shoot my rifles and shotguns when we're at a public range.

Yeah, hopefully that is one that will pass this year too.
As of 2-23, all of the bills I mentioned had passed our House. Time to pressure our Senators. :)
 
So what are the chances the West Virginia legislature overrides the Governor's veto on permitless cary?
 
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Oregon stinks and its getting worse.
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In Iowa it is currently against the law to allow our children under 14 (I was incorrect in my previous post) to handle a pistol.

I couldn't believe it when I heard either. I moved here a little over 3 years ago, and it's possible that I may have broken that law (unknowingly of course) before I learned the letter of the law. I can only let the younger ones shoot my rifles and shotguns when we're at a public range.

Yeah, hopefully that is one that will pass this year too.
As of 2-23, all of the bills I mentioned had passed our House. Time to pressure our Senators. :)

I sent an e-mail to my state senator today. He has a good 2A voting record but it doesn't hurt to send the e-mail anyway.

Pete
 
Here in MN it seems any kind of anti-gun talk comes out of the twin cities politicians, and that represents about half the state population. There is just enough rural vote to veto them, but it really is coming down to a rural/self-reliant vs urban/dependency mindset when it comes to guns.
That's also the problem in Michigan. Nullify Metro-Detroit, and we'd probably have one of the most pro-gun states. Hmmm...how do we do that?:scrutiny:
 
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