Why does everyone list their used Glocks for sale at above new prices? Scrolling though Texas Gun Trader and Armslist I see used factory Glocks for sale for $550-$600 all day. Not a single person asking for a reasonable used price. Why would anyone pay this amount for a used Glock when you can pick them up for $540 brand new at almost any gun store? Am I missing something here?
Used Glock Prices
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No, you're not missing anything. Texas Gun Trader is a joke. If someone wants to pay full retail or more for a used gun, Texas Gun Trader is the place to go. Sheesh.
And it's not just Glocks. It's everything. But I think the Glock sellers on there are the worst. And I love the ones that have done a horrible shade tree stippling job on it and think it adds value.
And it's not just Glocks. It's everything. But I think the Glock sellers on there are the worst. And I love the ones that have done a horrible shade tree stippling job on it and think it adds value.
Elkins45
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People hope that others will pay above retail for a gun they don't have to fill out a 4473 on.
Cause some people cannot buy a gun from a gun store or dont want a paper trail.
Keep in mind too that not everyone price shops. If you buy a Glock at Cabelas or Gander, 550-600 is probably a good used price since they got raped when they purchased it. lol
x 2 on the Texasguntrader being pathetic for just about anything. Ive sold a few and traded a few on there but its generally not worth the 5000 lowball offers.
Yeah I've sold a few guns and bought a few guns off of gun trader and I agree it's usually people selling things for an outrageous prices and offering you about 50% of what your for sale gun is worth, but if you ride it out you can usually get a good deal.
But I've just noticed while perusing the ads it seems Glocks are being listed for sale at much higher than their value compared to the other firearms listed. I wish this weren't the case. Kind of hurts the used firearms market as a whole if you ask me...
But I've just noticed while perusing the ads it seems Glocks are being listed for sale at much higher than their value compared to the other firearms listed. I wish this weren't the case. Kind of hurts the used firearms market as a whole if you ask me...
FL-NC
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Everything is worth what someone will give you for it. To me, there are no used Glocks worth more than $350-400.
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Depends where you live, depends on the LGS you're dealing with, depends on the model, the 17/19/26 models always sell for more used than the 22/23/27 models. Lately I've seen great deals on used Gen4 21's but I already have one.
I couldn't get more than $300.00 for my Gen3 17 with the box (which is obviously OK) and 2 Glock OEM mags (not so OK), trading against a new Gen4 G-34, and I wasn't getting anything off of the $649.00 price of that G-34. I wanted to keep my mags, and I thought I needed about another $50-$60 back from the deal that day so I kept my G-17.
GetmeoutaCT
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Are these Gen 2's you are referring to? I ask because I for one prefer my 2's over my 4's, all day every day. A $5 Hogue rubber sleeve cures any grip issues on a Gen 2. The polymer frame on a 2 strikes me as more robust than that on a 4, as does the nitron coating over the new coating. Finally, I have yet to buy a Gen 4 that does not need a Ghost trigger bar replacement, which is not true of my 2's.
Bottom line - I'd pay a bit of a premium for a like-new Gen 2 (maybe $450 for a pristine example with a box and all accessories), in preference over a new Gen 4.
I say all this because others who feel as I do may be a factor in driving up the price of older Glocks.
Bottom line - I'd pay a bit of a premium for a like-new Gen 2 (maybe $450 for a pristine example with a box and all accessories), in preference over a new Gen 4.
I say all this because others who feel as I do may be a factor in driving up the price of older Glocks.
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I have no idea what is wrong with the people thinking they are going to sell you a stock used Glock, with the same number of mags it came with, for the same price or more than you can buy one new. This to me is just silly.
Sadly I think most of them trying this, and sadly at times getting away with it, is the fact that Glock has a great reputation and a bit of a cult following. They are capitalizing on the fact that most feel that a Glock will never ever fail and they don't even have to clean it or maintain it. (even though neither of these is true... yes you do still have to take care of it for it to work well) So they figure it must be a good one if they want more for it.
I am personally very attached to my Glocks and love them. I usually end up customizing them to perform even better than they did they day I purchased them. Usually through night sights, trigger work, improved safety plunger, improved spring cups, grip shaping and stippling.
Very rarely have I parted with my Glocks. On the few occasions I have sold one I did usually ask for close to new pricing or a bit higher. This was purely as I usually had about 5-10 mags with it and about $300+ in upgraded parts alone in them.
Sadly I think most of them trying this, and sadly at times getting away with it, is the fact that Glock has a great reputation and a bit of a cult following. They are capitalizing on the fact that most feel that a Glock will never ever fail and they don't even have to clean it or maintain it. (even though neither of these is true... yes you do still have to take care of it for it to work well) So they figure it must be a good one if they want more for it.
I am personally very attached to my Glocks and love them. I usually end up customizing them to perform even better than they did they day I purchased them. Usually through night sights, trigger work, improved safety plunger, improved spring cups, grip shaping and stippling.
Very rarely have I parted with my Glocks. On the few occasions I have sold one I did usually ask for close to new pricing or a bit higher. This was purely as I usually had about 5-10 mags with it and about $300+ in upgraded parts alone in them.
Walt Sherrill
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kdunn said:
Because a lot of folks, particularly NEW BUYERS, don't know what a good price is.
I jokingly said, on another forum are, today, like VW Bettles were in the late 70's and 80's -- $400, regardless of condition.
In the past couple of years I've bought several Glocks, all in good condition:
1) A Model 23, with a .40, 9mm, and .357 SIG conversion barrel and a holster for $450. In great condition.
2) A new-in-box Model 38, for $350
3) A very low mileage Model 35 for $375.
I've traded for several and then traded them away, with values (in my mind, at least) in the $400-$500 range. I can pick up an almost-new Glock 37 locally -- and I'm still thinking about it, as I like my 38 a lot and have no problem getting ammo -- for $400-$425. It's tempting. I like .45 GAP.
If you don't know what used gun values should be, and you've only seen the inflated new gun prices at places like Gander Mountain, high prices for used guns don't seem that high.
No, he is talking about a Gen 3 or Gen 4 Glock. There are people on there asking $550 - $600 for a Gen 3 Glock that you can walk into any gun store and buy brand new for $500 - $525.
Or, take a basic Gen 3 and do a really bad stipple job on it and add in some shade-tree gunsmithing, and list it for $700.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's ridiculous and I can't imagine anyone would ever buy a gun from these people
I always thought that glocks were relatively inexpensive when new and buying used had quickly diminishing returns. Some people consider firearms to be durable goods but all it takes is an ffl transfer, a few springs, and maybe the cost of shipping to bring you back up to the price of a new pistol.
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stchman
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Don't pay their exorbitant prices.
I bought a lightly used Gen3 G34 and lightly used Gen4 G41 both off Armslist and both for $500 each. Each one of those guns sells new for ~$640. Since it is Armslist, make them an offer. Unless the seller says FIRM, I offer them what I think the gun is worth. The seller can counter offer as well.
Just the other day someone on Armslist here in St. Louis was selling a lightly used G19 for $400.
I bought a lightly used Gen3 G34 and lightly used Gen4 G41 both off Armslist and both for $500 each. Each one of those guns sells new for ~$640. Since it is Armslist, make them an offer. Unless the seller says FIRM, I offer them what I think the gun is worth. The seller can counter offer as well.
Just the other day someone on Armslist here in St. Louis was selling a lightly used G19 for $400.
Walt Sherrill
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Elkins45 said:
It's not really hooey -- at least not in all cases. And while I might not agree with the reasoning of those who want to avoid 4473 records, that desire or a belief that it's a legitimate thing to do doesn't make them stupid.
In a lot of states (NC and SC are examples) you can transfer weapons between residents of the state, bypassing an FFL. Here in NC there are rules, and requirements (like no sales to felons or folks who have other limits, like age, a domestic problem, etc.). In such transfers, there may be no record of the transfer, and certainly no 4473.
The law in NC specifies who can sell or receive but neither defines nor stipulates record-keeping requirements for private transfers. (I keep copies of all particulars, but others do not.)
A lot of folks are hyper-concerned about the existence of records of firearms transactions, believing that eventually the guys in the black helicopters are going to try to confiscate all weapons... So some will welcome avoiding a 4473.
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I've had people come to the gunshop I work at and expect to walk out with a gun, without filling out a form, if they pay in cash. Some people are so afraid that the goberment is going to kick in their door and drag them off to a FEMA camp in the near future for filling out a 4473, even though they have filled out the same form many times over the years and thought nothing of it before They also seem to think that "when they come for my guns" that "I had a tragic boating accident" will suffice and that "off paper" guns will be safe. Sadly, some SOBs will do anything for a buck, and will sell "off paper" guns to anyone willing to pay more than it's worth, because they are prohibited or otherwise couldn't pass a background check.
I do find it funny that people who preach about the impending gun confiscation, buy lots of gold, which was confiscated by FDR.
I do find it funny that people who preach about the impending gun confiscation, buy lots of gold, which was confiscated by FDR.
MIL-DOT
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And I find it "funny" how often some people so flippantly dismiss the looming threat of future gun bans, and then cite the confiscation of gold.
So which is it ? The government IS able to enforce unconstitutional confiscations? Or they aren't ? You seem to be confused.Walt Sherrill
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wideym said:
I suspect a lot of people don't know what's required when buying a gun... If they had any knowledge of the process at all, they'd KNOW that "cash" isn't a magic word. What you describe may be an attempt to circumvent the law, but it may also be a very common IGNORANCE of what the law requires.
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I don't think you have to fill out a 4473 to buy gold, and if you buy GOLD or a HANDGUN in a private transaction, there may be no record of the transaction that can lead to you.
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The funny part is that people think THEY will be overlooked or ignored if there is no "official" paperwork on guns or gold. There was no paperwork for gold before the government announced it had to be turned in for what they said it was worth at that moment. They did announce stiff fines and jail sentences for those who didn't comply, therefore most did comply and those who did not hid the contraband until the law was changed some fourty years later. Just because there is not paperwork, doesn't mean you won't be a prime suspect for hiding guns or hoarding gold. All it takes is a bitter ex, disillusioned child, or disgruntled employee to make an anoyomous call to the government to destroy your life. Even worse is the "whistleblower" clauses which gives the caller a "cut" of proceeds.
Walt Sherrill
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The responses you address are a RATIONAL interpretation of a potentially dreadful situation.
The folks who are looking to have undocumented guns and gold when the world goes to CRAP aren't using YOUR sort of rational processes. They don't think like you do, and your rationales don't apply. They'll laugh at your arguments.
If the world as we know it goes to crap some folks might really need gold and guns -- and in that scenario there isn't going to be a government able to confiscate either.
People will bury guns in water-proof containers, and have places to stow their gold. If there's no paper trail, you'll have to rely on people being honest and bring guns and gold forward. The folks who are stashing the stuff are going to say that "being honest" went out of style.
I personally think that if gun and gold are really needed, guns and gold won't be enough...
The folks who are looking to have undocumented guns and gold when the world goes to CRAP aren't using YOUR sort of rational processes. They don't think like you do, and your rationales don't apply. They'll laugh at your arguments.
If the world as we know it goes to crap some folks might really need gold and guns -- and in that scenario there isn't going to be a government able to confiscate either.
People will bury guns in water-proof containers, and have places to stow their gold. If there's no paper trail, you'll have to rely on people being honest and bring guns and gold forward. The folks who are stashing the stuff are going to say that "being honest" went out of style.
I personally think that if gun and gold are really needed, guns and gold won't be enough...
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