Trijicon TARS 3-15x50 Red MOA Riflescope TARS101..(Still Shaking Head)

MrCleanOK · May 11, 2016

If the ability to see a 1/4" diamond behind your reticle at the range is what matters most to you, then you need a SFP scope. FFP scopes have their place, but it doesn't sound like they suit your needs. It probably looks so weird to your friends because they're also used to SFP scopes, and are expecting to be able to see that 1/4" diamond at high magnification.

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taliv · May 11, 2016

A bench rest class probably would help you. Look at bench rest targets and think about why they're not bullseyes. Learn to use the reticle. Here's a hint. You don't have to zero it so the rounds go into the crosshairs center.

If you are trying to hit a small target like a fly then Measure one of the little dots that go down at an angle and dial that adjustment on the turret so the bullets hit that dot.

Or if you are shooting groups Leave the turrets centered and use the end of one of the hashes which I do a lot. That target sucks so get rid of it anyway. Take a blank piece of paper and shoot a hole in it then use it for your poa. Use a sight picture like a pistol with a six o'clock hold. Ie go half a mill right or left of center and put the bullet right on the top of the vertical hash. That way your poa won't get screwed up by bullet holes. (Since the bullet is going half a mil left or right)
I'll bet your groups shrink by half.

Walkalong · May 11, 2016

Correct, for shooting groups you don't want to shoot out your point of aim.

nerfsrule2 · May 11, 2016

taliv said:
A bench rest class probably would help you. Look at bench rest targets and think about why they're not bullseyes. Learn to use the reticle. Here's a hint. You don't have to zero it so the rounds go into the crosshairs center.

If you are trying to hit a small target like a fly then Measure one of the little dots that go down at an angle and dial that adjustment on the turret so the bullets hit that dot.

Or if you are shooting groups Leave the turrets centered and use the end of one of the hashes which I do a lot. That target sucks so get rid of it anyway. Take a blank piece of paper and shoot a hole in it then use it for your poa. Use a sight picture like a pistol with a six o'clock hold. Ie go half a mill right or left of center and put the bullet right on the top of the vertical hash. That way your poa won't get screwed up by bullet holes. (Since the bullet is going half a mil left or right)
I'll bet your groups shrink by half.

Thanks for this.. As i talked about earlier the class that we were supposed to attend filled up before we even got the notification email...

taliv · May 11, 2016

nice groups, walkalong! what caliber is that??

Haxby · May 12, 2016

To shoot groups, you could make targets with a 2" light-colored dot on a dark background and center the cross in the dot.

nerfsrule2 · May 12, 2016

I have to ask... If the center of the cross hair is to large for me to shoot at the same POA (With this scope) What is it used for??

Bobson · May 12, 2016

I have to ask... If the center of the cross hair is to large for me to shoot at the same POA (With this scope) What is it used for??

Maybe it's meant for shooting people, like many other Trijicon products. Is that such an outrageous possibility?

taliv · May 12, 2016

right. that's not really a benchrest scope.

benchrest reticles look more like the below, are typically in MOA and often have much finer adjustments on the turret, like 1/8th or 1/10th MOA instead of 1/4 MOA clicks. oh and way more magnification

Perazzimx10 · May 12, 2016

"Maybe it's meant for shooting people, like many other Trijicon products. Is that such an outrageous possibility?"
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Nerfsrule- This is a very good point, I hadn't really considered at first....

~John

nerfsrule2 · May 12, 2016

watch this video from the 3 min mark.. pay attention to the distances they are using and the shot he makes at 3:59.... This is the Long range Golf video I mentioned earlier where he hits a small gong on a deer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQPIr6qP5Bk .. I hope my smith friend John comes in to comment on this.. I sent him a link...

nerfsrule2 · May 12, 2016

taliv said:
right. that's not really a benchrest scope.

benchrest reticles look more like the below, are typically in MOA and often have much finer adjustments on the turret, like 1/8th or 1/10th MOA instead of 1/4 MOA clicks. oh and way more magnification

Thanks..I will be putting the Leupold 8.5 x 25 back on.. To fine tune my long range loads.. The TARS will not sit in my closet.. (Both Scopes have a Larue Quick release mount on them).. I want to shoot long distance steel the Trijicon goes on.. I will do some research on how to use all of the features of this scope.. So I can give you a review..It is going Back to them any day now to have the internal chip in the Glass replaced..

Perazzimx10 · May 12, 2016

Nerfsrule- After further consideration & research, I should amend my statement.
Maybe 'Design Flaw' isn't the appropriate word. Flawed as far as the spots / debris on the inside of the glass, Yes.

While the color, clarity, light gathering capabilities and glass quality of this scope is incredible it leaves a lot to be desired as a target scope. Understanding now that it was indeed designed for a completely different purpose- practical shooting, military & LE. If you want to ring a gong, or engage BGs out to 800M, I'm sure this scope would fit the bill. However, if the goal is to drive tacks at 300-1000yds My opinion would definitely advise against this optic. Stick with The Leupold or as another poster mentioned the Nightforce BRs are very popular in the benchrest game. I've owned a NF NXS, incredible optics. The NF benchrest scopes deliver incredible power, and some of the best glass on the market for very reasonable money.

I prefer my Zeiss Victory, Diavaris, and Swaro Z6's. Have great luck with Leupolds as well. That's mainly because I can be stubborn, know what I like, and tend to stick with it.

I think that the recommendation on the NF BR is a very sound opinion. World class glass, nearly twice as powerful as any of my Zeiss' or Swaros- at almost half the price point. The biggest downfall to a scope with that kind of power, is that in most conditions (humidity etc) you won't get to use the higher end of its power range.... But I guess it's still nice to know that it's available!!

~John

Walkalong · May 12, 2016

what caliber is that??

6 PPC

The dominant scope back then was Leupold. Their 24X & 36X Benchrest scopes either had a fine cross hair, or a fine cross hair with 1/8 MOA dot. (Like this Weaver) You could easily aim at one quadrant of a bullet hole.

There are many more choices today. Better glass as well. They were around $600 back then IIRC.

bubbalo7 · May 13, 2016

First Focal and Second Focal Plane is your answer.Read up on it.I think it will help you out.

Gordon · May 14, 2016

Having cut my scope teeth on FFP scopes I have all ways thought SFP scopes were the way to go since I tried them. I either estimate range with head out of scope or better yet , use a quality range finder. I want a large picket in my low magnification and a tiny thin one at high X .

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