My buddy that was trying yesterday that was getting a message about the server being down was able to get in later in the day so keep trying for those who still need to do it. And worse case, print off the form 1 and mail it in tomorrow.
Is the ATF eForms site down for anyone else?
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pjeski
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Tomorrow is post 41F.
"PLEASE NOTE: Final Rule 41F becomes effective JULY 13, 2016. Applications received with a post-mark of July 13, 2016 and after will be processed according to the specifications of 41F."
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regul...-checks-responsible-persons-effective-july-13
"PLEASE NOTE: Final Rule 41F becomes effective JULY 13, 2016. Applications received with a post-mark of July 13, 2016 and after will be processed according to the specifications of 41F."
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regul...-checks-responsible-persons-effective-july-13
Holy crap that sucks. I think a lot of people are under the impression tomorrow is the last day (I know I was). Thanks for clearing up. Luckily it doesn't affect me but my buddy is going up this evening for his last suppressor
pjeski
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Re-register some of your NFA items. Kind of like renewing vows.
adcoch1
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The site is down again! Nooooooo.....
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Elkins45
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I was going to SBS a double gun at the 11th hour just for one last hurrah, but the eforms site is down. Oh well, I guess the crappy ATF website just did me a favor and saved me $200 because I can't mail a paper form tomorrow.
adcoch1
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That's what my wife just told me about the suppressor i was gonna form 1...
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Acera
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Tried to log in this morning to see if my application submitted last week had been approved, the system is still down.
Did we hit it with a knockout punch???
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Did we hit it with a knockout punch???
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Where'd you get that idea?
You don't Form 1 a Suppressor, it requires a Form 4
Hmmm, I called the BATFE on July 8, and was told trust applications had to be postmarked by the 13th to be processed under the older rules. I guess calling them for help is like calling the IRS.
Mine hit their PO box on Monday, my credit card got hit yesterday.
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pdsmith505
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Thats odd... I have an approved Form 1 for a suppressor and two pre-41f Form 1s pending for cans as well...
Maybe you are unaware that you can make suppressors yourself?
You can form 1 a suppressor, form 1 is for building, form 4 is for buying. Many people like to build their own suppressors. Some have more talent than others.
An easy way to do it is some of the kits they offer that you can legally finish off once your form 1 tax stamp has come back.
http://www.preppersdiscount.com/store/c17/SOLVENT_TRAP_KITS.html
Acera
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Well I guess pdsmith505, Ryanxia and I are all screwed because I have a few form1s in the pipeline waiting for approval to make suppressors. SMH, it's those children of unmarried couples at the gobment making up rules and not telling us, fooled by them again.......................
Oh, hope they use that money the collected from me for something useful like education of the masses.
adcoch1
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A suppressor is nothing more than a small volume muffler. I built my first muffler for a motorcycle when i was 13, so a suppressor shouldn't be that difficult...
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There is a lot more pressure coming out of a large center fire caliber than a motorcycle exhaust I would think. And there's a lot of factors like material (do you want aluminum, titanium, steel), full auto rated, thread patterns and tolerances. Not to mention making it look good, I just think depending on someone's skill it's easier to make a factory-like suppressor or (in my case) nothing close to it lol.
adcoch1
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The pressure is significantly higher, especially at the first baffle, but the heat is similar, and no full auto in the world can compete with the cyclic rate of a high performance 4CYL. With a lathe and a mill the tolerances are pretty easy to achieve, and the concept is similar to a muffler. Complicated, yes. Hard? No.
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