Differences between the Beretta Tikka 3 Lite 30.06 vs. the Remington 700 in 30.06?

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That is a really difficult question. I have both rifles and from the factory my Tikka was more accurate than my Remington 700. However that a very small sample size (n of 1). I would not draw any conclusions from that.

My Remington 700 after a little TLC (crown re-cut, the contact on my bolt was less than ideal and I had the bolt lugs lapped, action bedded, barrel floated, and a trigger job) is now a very, very accurate specimen. Was that necessary...absolutely not. It was more than accurate enough for deer hunting from the factory. Being friends with a gunsmith often impairs one's judgment. :what:

I really don't think you will go wrong with either rifle. I must say: the Tikka is very light and in 30-06 recoil is... interesting. :D

Again... I would not draw any conclusions from two rifles. Either should be more than accurate enough to hunt with from the factory. If you are looking for target accuracy, a little work with either gun and I am sure you will be happy.

Match accuracy. The Remington platform has more after market parts and stocks. I would lean that way.
 
It is hard to say, individual rifles are hard to predict. I've owned many Remington's over the years and have owned, or at least fired about 1/2 dozen Tikka's. If pure accuracy were the only criteria I'd say the odds are in favor of the Tikka out shooting the 700. But not by much, and certainly not 100% of the time.

A limbsaver recoil pad on either will make 30-06 recoil feel like 243.
 
I have both. Both in wood stocks.
The Tikka is more accurate with both factory ammo and handloads by a noticeable margin. It also has a smoother action and nicer trigger, or at least HAD a nicer trigger before the installation of a Timney trigger in the M700.

Dollar for dollar, the Tikkas are hard to beat.

I hope this helps.
 
Poper said:
I have both. Both in wood stocks.
The Tikka is more accurate with both factory ammo and handloads by a noticeable margin. It also has a smoother action and nicer trigger, or at least HAD a nicer trigger before the installation of a Timney trigger in the M700.

Dollar for dollar, the Tikkas are hard to beat.

I hope this helps.
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Thanks it does help as I do recall the bolt action is alot smoother and the Tikka 3 Lite is a lighter rifle to carry.
 
Assuming they are the same price, you won't go far wrong with the Tikka. You get excellent craftmanship, there's no need for any touching up work that a Remington may need. The bolt is super smooth and the accuracy is sub-MOA. The only downside is the recoil in the Tikka because the standard polymer stock is very light. I have a Tikka T3 Varmint in .308 and the 20" barrel produces a lot of recoil, it is very noticeable compared to a 26" Remington barrel. For hunting, you probably won't care because lighter = easier for carrying long distance.

I also have a Remington 700 but this is a custom rifle with aftermarket barrel in 6.5x47 Lapua so I can't really do an "apples to apples"comparison.
 
I've had several Tikkas, and only one M700 so I might be a bit biased, but I can't think of anything that I like about the Remington more than the Tikka. Tikkas tend to have a slicker action, better trigger, and at least for me are much more accurate out of the box. Tikkas do tend to be fairly light (which I like in a hunting gun), and if the recoil is found to be objectionable the addition of a Limbsaver recoil pad is a cheap, easy fix.

Another big factor for me is that the Tikka's safety locks the bolt when engaged, a must for a hunting gun in my safe.
 
I have been a Remington 700 guy since about age 16, but I have seen Remington 700s out of the box that would not chamber factory ammunition.

I have never seen a Tikka with that affliction.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Stinger327;

My personal choice is Tikka, & I've put my wallet where my typing fingers are, I have several Tikka's. All are good to excellent for accuracy. The single T-3 light I've got is in .30-06 & I don't find the recoil to be abusive. My 150 grain handloads run very close to 3000 fps as measured over my Oehler 35P. Another Tikka is in .338 Winchester magnum, so no need for heavier bullets in the ought-6.

Due to factors that aren't germane to this thread, I'm not a real fan of Remington. Remmy burned me good once upon a time, & that's not happened with Tikka.

900F
 
CB900F said:
Stinger327;

My personal choice is Tikka, & I've put my wallet where my typing fingers are, I have several Tikka's. All are good to excellent for accuracy. The single T-3 light I've got is in .30-06 & I don't find the recoil to be abusive. My 150 grain handloads run very close to 3000 fps as measured over my Oehler 35P. Another Tikka is in .338 Winchester magnum, so no need for heavier bullets in the ought-6.

Due to factors that aren't germane to this thread, I'm not a real fan of Remington. Remmy burned me good once upon a time, & that's not happened with Tikka.

900F
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The Tikka 3 Lite is made in Finland. I like the quality of that rifle.
I have seen 220 grain 30.06 bullets. What is the primary use of this heavier bullet?
 
Stinger;

Factory ammo, if available, will be running around 2400/2500 fps. Therefore, relatively short range, heavy bodied animals. Handloads may provide a small increase in velocity, but the use will remain the same. Not flat-shooting by any means, but loads of penetration.

900F
 
CB900F said:
Stinger;

Factory ammo, if available, will be running around 2400/2500 fps. Therefore, relatively short range, heavy bodied animals. Handloads may provide a small increase in velocity, but the use will remain the same. Not flat-shooting by any means, but loads of penetration.

900F
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I see 125 grains to 180 grains. These weights must be ideal for deer?
 
Stinger;

Generally speaking, the 150-165 grain bullets are considered to be good for deer/antelope type animals. The 180/190 grain bullets, for elk & black bear. The 200's & 220's as we discussed, moose, Alaskan bear, eland, etc. The sub-150's are usually considered to be varmint type bullets.

There are several factors that will help you decide on the correct bullet. They are the game or use you expect to put it to. The range you expect to use them at & the speed of the bullet at that range. Buy a couple of reloading manuals, I'd suggest Hornady & Speer, & read the information provided concerning those factors. In other words everything except the specific recipes. Then look at the recipes they give you for your chosen caliber.

900F
 
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Stinger;

Generally speaking, the 150-165 grain bullets are considered to be good for deer/antelope type animals. The 180/190 grain bullets, for elk & black bear. The 200's & 220's as we discussed, moose, Alaskan bear, eland, etc. The sub-150's are usually considered to be varmint type bullets.

There are several factors that will help you decide on the correct bullet. They are the game or use you expect to use them for. The range you expect to use them at & the speed of the bullet at that range. Buy a couple of reloading manuals, I'd suggest Hornady & Speer, & read the information provided concerning those factors. In other words everything except the specific recipes. Then look at the recipes they give you for your chosen caliber.

900F
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Thanks for that info.
 
stinger 327 said:
The Tikka 3 Lite is made in Finland. I like the quality of that rifle.
I have seen 220 grain 30.06 bullets. What is the primary use of this heavier bullet?
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Generally the heavier bullets are either long range match bullets, or are designed for game heavier than elk. Some people try to stretch the .30-06 to do great bears, bison, and large overseas game. Personally I think that's a job for .35 Whelen, .348 Win etc on up. But maybe they really like tracking.

For deer in .30-06, a wide range of weights will work but I would use 150gr.

I'm not a huge fan of Tikka or Remington right now, but if I had to buy one I guess I'd buy the Tikka. Push feed and cost cutting actions don't really get me excited though - if I wanted that, I could just buy a Ruger American.
 
Llama Bob said:
Generally the heavier bullets are either long range match bullets, or are designed for game heavier than elk. Some people try to stretch the .30-06 to do great bears, bison, and large overseas game. Personally I think that's a job for .35 Whelen, .348 Win etc on up. But maybe they really like tracking.

For deer in .30-06, a wide range of weights will work but I would use 150gr.

I'm not a huge fan of Tikka or Remington right now, but if I had to buy one I guess I'd buy the Tikka. Push feed and cost cutting actions don't really get me excited though - if I wanted that, I could just buy a Ruger American.
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Which bolt action rifles in 30.06 are available with the Mauser type grips over the pusher type actions?
 
stinger 327 said:
Which bolt action rifles in 30.06 are available with the Mauser type grips over the pusher type actions?
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In the US, Winchester model 70s are the most common. If I was buying a 30-06 that would be my first choice. There are also Ruger M77s which feel clunkier to me, but are definitely less expensive. There are also huge numbers of sporterized M1903s aftermarket.

The Tikkas do shoot well, and the only bad things I've heard about them relate to the availability of repair parts from overseas. Just not my preferred type of rifle.

Edit: I forgot there are CZs too. And actual M98s. Dakotas. Montana Rifle Company. Kimber.
 
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It's the model 550, yes. There aren't a huge number of new ones in .30-06 though - I don't think there's a basic 550 American being made at the moment.
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I remember this CZ model and a Weatherby model? The Tikka 3 Lite still felt better and had a smoother action.
 
Stinger;

The CZ 550 has a true Mauser action, and they are good guns. The new CZ 557 is not a Mauser action, it's more like a Tikka or Remington. The 557 is new enough that I haven't heard much feedback about them at all. OTOH, nothing negative either. But, the 550 is being discontinued by CZ, to be totally replaced by the 557. I don't believe the Howa/Weatherby is a Mauser action, but I don't have one.

900F
 
CB900F said:
Stinger;

The CZ 550 has a true Mauser action, and they are good guns. The new CZ 557 is not a Mauser action, it's more like a Tikka or Remington. The 557 is new enough that I haven't heard much feedback about them at all. OTOH, nothing negative either. But, the 550 is being discontinued by CZ, to be totally replaced by the 557. I don't believe the Howa/Weatherby is a Mauser action, but I don't have one.

900F
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To me the Tikka 3 Lite feels the best out of all the above models. The little sticker on it says if I remember correctly guaranteed 3 one inch groupings at 100 yards?
 
Tikka has (or had) a 3-shot<1" guarantee. Remington has/had........<cricket noise>..

I been in the Tikka factory in Finland and watched them go through the process. Hammer-forged barrels that go to a 'straightening' area (for lack of a better term) where each barrel is checked after coming off of the hammer-forging machine. Each rifle is test-fired (after proof loads) by hand. If the gun doesn't put 3 inside of an inch, it all goes to the scrap pile.
I love the 700 actions. Grew up with them. But it seems that every one of them needs to have SOMETHING done to wring out the best, or acceptable, accuracy. And that 'something' always costs $$$
 
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