Congrats Texas! - Texas campus carry law comes into effect today!

Excellent news. Congratulations, Texas!

Congrats TX!

Mike

How many people were killed today? According to the antis there must have been thousands............maybe hundreds..............possibly a few dozen? No? Wow, they lied to us. Imagine that. Campus carry is safe and carriers are responsible people. Who woulda thunk?

My favorite is all the stations saying "now, this doesn't mean open carry" which implies this level of confusion persisted what, a full six months after passage & public education campaigns against it?

Kinda makes me think we could have rammed full-on open-carry through to campuses if we'd wanted (next session...next session)

I still think unlicensed carry will be a bridge too far for the urban tycoon types (both ghetto hustlers and rich oilmen), but the prospect of it being a total non-issue that is politically viable seems so much more likely now. In the absence of federal motion, there is definitely an inertia to these things, which seems to be accelerating (and in both directions, unfortunately)

TCB

How many people were killed today? According to the antis there must have been thousands............maybe hundreds..............possibly a few dozen? No? Wow, they lied to us. Imagine that. Campus carry is safe and carriers are responsible people. Who woulda thunk?

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I want to know how many professors were "silenced" by unseen handguns, and were too terrified for their typical ridiculous histrionics or abuse of dissident students

TCB

Although there was no end to arched comment on how this was also the 50th anniversary of the tu tower shooting.

"tu"? Really?

Well,how about UT? The granite memorial stone is quite moving.

"Silenced"? Nah. Some of us faculty will be armed this school year!

I'm an adjunct these days, just like our current President was. Back in the day, I was a tenured, full-time faculty member. I'm on campus late at night, and I'm very glad to be legally armed on my way to and from work, and during class.

I'm up in front of a class, so the gun has to be on my body but totally invisible. I had planned to carry a P-32, but I upped my game and went with the very light, fairly slim, and small GLOCK 42. It's a bit smaller than the 43, and the 43 came out just after I bought the 42. I have no buyer's remorse: the 42 totally disappears on me. I like tucked-in appendix carry, so the pistol has to be fairly small.

Night students tend to be a little bit older, and many are working and going to school at night. They -- the ones I've had in classes over the years -- tend to be more mature. I don't have any fear of one of them legally carrying.

I think this will be a great school year!

Dirty Bob
(in higher ed since 1990, and this is the first year I can carry!)

Whew, more power to you (though hopefully not *just* like our current prez ). I'd be really nervous up in front of a horde of viscous jackals looking for any excuse to report me to the dean out of misplaced anger*. I guess that's incentive to be on the best of terms with your students

"Normally in this part of the lecture, I'd tell you how horrible you all are as people and how we're all doomed because of you, but in light of certain...considerations, here's your test scores with no further comment"

*I think it'll be really funny when we realize it's primarily lib arts profs --probably those most opposed to the law-- getting nailed by perceptive students with an axe to grind. Still unlikely to be much of an issue, though.

TCB

I see TX is catching up to some of the really good carry law states.

Hopefully some other states can catch up as well.



And it really isn't something that anybody will ever likely notice. I went to (Big) school in Indiana where campus carry with a shall-issue carry license was legal, minimum permit age was 18, and almost nothing was off limits, not even bars or drinking while carrying.

But most people would never have a clue all that is legal there and has been for a long time because it just isn't a problem!

And yes I carried on campus, as a student, to football games, you name it

Thankfully, I teach in the sciences. Our students are different from what one hears about on talk radio and on the Internet. So far, I've heard zero about trigger warnings, safe spaces, or microagressions. I do require courtesy in the classroom, and I address and refer to my students as Mr. ____ and Ms. _____. It may be a bit formal, but it seems to work.

I also like to talk about job hunting, resumes, interviews, etc. when it fits the topic. I've managed to help get a few of my students hired, and I'd like to see all of them in jobs that pay them what they're worth.

My current part-time teaching is at a community college, and students here seem to be very job- and goal-oriented.

I have no plans to even mention campus carry. If it comes up in class, I'll simply tell them what I've told everyone who's asked me:

1. I don't talk about carrying.
2. I'm not worried about any of my students who has a CHL carrying. I'm impressed with how mature and responsible they are, as a whole.
3. I usually mention that even those who don't carry benefit, as bad guys will have no idea who is and isn't armed.

My stress level on campus carry is close to zero. I have always loved teaching, and I'm looking forward to another school year.

Congrats, Californians just lost this last October.
Of course permits in populated counties of California are a lot less common than in Texas.

In California anyone with a permit could carry on schools, it was a 'loophole' they closed last October that had been allowed for decades.

I heard in the media the Texas legislation doesn't allow them in dorms? I know the media is often wrong though when they report things, is that correct?
So it would only be students living off campus, like a lot of older people going back to college? And the age to carry is 21 so it wouldn't be an option for most people straight from high school anyways, but just those over 21?

I also heard this new legislation in Texas allows teachers to make their classrooms gun free zones anyways, meaning students likely cannot carry anyways if they are taking even one class that prohibits guns even if the other classes allow it (because if they cannot just keep it concealed on them throughout the day then how can they wear it at all?)
So when someone that teaches a basic requirement prohibits guns nobody taking the required course can carry that semester anyways? That could still keep a large percentage of the student body over 21 and with a permit from carrying anyways. If you have a handful of General required courses with prohibited teachers most students will probably have one of those classes at any given time.


Makes no sense to sell guns in society then create places where the only people that will have them are those that bring them illegally while all those that follow the rules are forbidden from having guns.
Then anyone that chooses to break the rule has the only gun there.

My understanding is Virginia Tech was actually rather pro gun and likely would have had some concealed carry going on if it was legal there at the time Cho attacked.
Doesn't matter how many guns the good guys have locked up at home if only the bad guys have them most other places.

also heard this new legislation in Texas allows teachers to make their classrooms gun free zones anyways,

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This was one of the arguments that was blown out of the water.
We're getting there, one step at a time, and a bit quicker than most.

I think these things get blown out of proportion from the anti perspective in the national media.

That was why I mentioned the age requirement to even carry. Most students fresh from high school cannot carry for years anyways. It will be adults with more time to mature, including a lot of older people taking courses as well as faculty.
Yet the media reports on this in a doom and gloom fashion, as if people already there could not bring a gun already if they had ill intent. As well as if you let guns on campus suddenly every freshmen just out of their parents oversight is going to be packing their pistol to class in between drunken fraternity parties, when people cannot acquire a carry permit until 21.

In the media we always see a desire to double ban killing people and possession of guns in gun free zones when it happens, as if no good guys with tools to stop it wasn't half the problem.

Zoogster said:

I think these things get blown out of proportion from the anti perspective in the national media.

That was why I mentioned the age requirement to even carry. Most students fresh from high school cannot carry for years anyways. It will be adults with more time to mature, including a lot of older people taking courses as well as faculty.
Yet the media reports on this in a doom and gloom fashion, as if people already there could not bring a gun already if they had ill intent.

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...and as if Indiana wasn't shall issue with a minimum age of 18 with lawful carry on college campuses including dorms and dorm rooms AND bars...