Help picking a leveraction combo

I have the Rossi 92 stainless 20" 44mag. Its a great little rifle, and having one type of ammo for it and the pistol is awesome. A 357 in a rifle is no slouch either, and may be more versatile than the 44. Every job the 30-30 does the 44 CAN do, maybe not quite as well, but it can do it. If i had a 30-30 already i wouldn't have bought the 44, but i won't go get a 30-30 to cover the gap up to my 30-06... hope that helps

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If I had to reduce my levers down to two, I'd keep the Marlin 357 and the Marlin 45/70. They're both extremely versatile. It's hard to go wrong with any combination of those 4 calibers, though.


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The .30-30 and the .44 are pretty similar. The .30-30 takes on its own shine past 100 yards. Of the two, I would go with the .30-30 hands down.

I think if you had the chance to play with a .357 in a rifle it would win you over. It is disproportionally powerful for what it is, has very little recoil and report, and is very accurate. If you snoop around the internet and read about .357 rifles you will find some very interesting information. I picked one up on a whim and now have two leveractions, a single shot, and a bolt action in .357. I have killed hogs with mine and just about everyone in my family can shoot them as well (four year old excepted). I am sold on the utility of the .357 YMMV.

Hope this helps,

Matt

Jackal1

Given your choices I think I would go with the .357 carbine along with a .30-30 carbine.

I guess I am missing the point of all of this. You want to end up with two carbine type rifles? For what you describe I would want a good revolver like a S&W Model 29 and a complimentary rifle like the Ruger 44 Carbine or similar lever gun in 44 Remington Magnum. One cartridge fits both and if you wanted to download use 44 Special in the revolver. The same combination would apply with a .357 cartridge. Anyway, I see a revolver complimented by a rifle of the same caliber rather than two rifles of independent caliber.

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Ron

Jackal1, about 30 years ago I scratched an itch like yours (I had developed my itch ~20 years prior) with the purchase of one/ea S&W629 and Marlin 1894S.

Neither is scoped, I have always preferred shooting over irons.

Both firearms can handle full-power .44mag but can also handle ammunition downloaded into the .44spc range. For plinking purposes, the downloaded ammo is a real pleasure to shoot ... and still leaves big holes.

Quite frankly, these days, most of what I shoot in my 659 is .44spc.

Have fun making your decision(s)!

A hot .357 load, i.e. 180g Buffalo Bore, in a 20" carbine length barrel picks up enough velocity and energy to approach .30-30 ballistics. Do you really need the second rifle in .30-30?

There are some subtle and some not so subtle differences between a pistol caliber lever rifle and a rifle cartridge. I really like my Uberti 1873 in 357 magnum. It was my favorite go to rifle for most anything for a long time. It is pretty heavy and has a different balance than say my 1894 in 30-30.

Now that I am casting my own bullets, I can shoot either all day for nearly the same price, with the exception of the gas checks on the 30 caliber bullets. I prefer the balance of the 1894 to that of the 1873, so whenever I go plinking, I prefer the 1894. I just like shooting it better than the other.

OP, perhaps try out a few of your tentative choices and see how they balance for you, see what modifications you might like, whether you prefer a light rifle or a heavier rifle? Whether you like a little nose heavy balance or a balance point between your hands.

I still like the 1873, and shoot it well. It is confidence inspiring.

Jackal1

You know a Ruger Blackhawk in .357 would be the perfect companion to a .357 carbine. Just sayin'.

I love my Marlin 1894 in .357magnum. I load lead bullets for indoor compliance (our range has a muzzle energy limit) and I can shoot fist sized groups at 25m while standing. Can get ragged holes when sitting down with a scope. I've also loaded some jacketed rounds and have shot it out to 350m although it's more similar to artillery at this point! It's a very fun round to shoot in the carbine so I'd highly recommend it!

I'll throw in my two cents and say that I own both a Winchester Model 94 and a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun. I'd pick the 1895 any day of the week. It's become my favorite rifle in my collection. I use it primarily for woods and brush hunting. Gotta love that 45-70!

Jackal, the weight of the rifle doesn't bother me much and really isn't noticeable. I really like the maneuverability of the 18" barrel of the 1895 while walking through thick woods. To be honest, I don't find the recoil of the 1895 to be bad at all. I don't reload, so I primarily shoot the 405gr soft-point Remington loads. I find them to produce more of a push in recoil. I shot a box of Hornady's Leverevolution ammo through it and found those to be more of an unpleasant snappy recoil, but still manageable. Overall, the 1895 just fits me better and it's a natural shooter for me. I'm a way better shot with that rifle than the Winchester, not really sure why.

I've taken deer with the 1895 using those Remington loads and dropped them where they stood. The bullet stayed intact and didn't overly damage meat, but created a good wound channel. I haven't taken a deer with the Winchester but many people have for many with great success.

I don't think you can go wrong with either rifle, I just prefer the Marlin. When it comes down to it, it's just personal preference for me. Hope this helps.

I can echo Jeff's statement. My Winchester 94 is a 32 special, and I shoot my Marlin 1895 guide gun better. The recoil doesn't seem excessive, although the 45/70 can be transformed into a beast with handloads. I much prefer the 405 factory speeds. The Marlin has an edge over Winchester in the disassembly arena as well.


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I have a Marlin 44 magnum as well. It has a 20" barrel and feels a little less handy than the 357. It certainly isn't cumbersome though. Much like the 357, the 44 enters beast mode when fired from a carbine. I think the only downside to the caliber is the cost to feed it. 44magnums and 44 Specials are close to $1/round in my area. If I didn't reload, I would probably skip the caliber all together in favor of a carbine chambered in the less costly 9mm, 45acp or 38/357.


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I like the lever action rifles,back in the day I bought a Marlin #30AS basicly a 336 with plane wood. I got a Henry .22 its a lot of fun to shoot. I want a lever action in .44 because that would be a nice companoin to my S&W Model 29 .Im thinking it would be a Hoot to Shoot ! A buddy of mine has a Henry in .357 and he swears by it .There are probably no realy bad choices depending on how scarce the ammo is you can find .357,or .30/30 anywhere,but 45-70 might be harder to find

There's something about the JMB-designed leverguns that as far as I'm concerned the Marlins can't match. The '86, '92 and '94 all have charms. If you want something you could crank off indoors, a Browning B-92 in .357 or .44 mag would be pretty solid. Since capability-wise it's similar to a .30-30, if you want a 2nd gun I'd go with an '86 in something huge - .45-70's nice and all, but .45-90, .50-110, .450 Alaskan, .50 Alaskan, .475 Turnbull, .348 winchester etc all offer substantially more capability. If you're going to tote around all that iron, you might as well get your money's worth... All are reloader's cartridges though.

Just food for though.