Ak pistol with a brace

I have one and really enjoy it. I also have an AR15 pistol with brace. If I had to do it again I would skip the AK pistol and just stick with the rifle length AK. I think the AR makes a better pistol because of (slightly) less recoil. That being said, the 7.62x39 is way more effective out of a pistol than 5.56.

Just remember to double up on your ear protection with that shorty. People hated mine at the range.

My understanding is that the gov says if you put that thing in your shoulder you have somehow changed the classification of that firearm. The 7.62x39 round in something that short makes for a pretty "jumpy" set-up in a rapid fire mode, IME.

Shorter barrels=better inherent accuracy. It is the loss of velocity that will be your limiter for long range stuff with this firearm. With 7.62x39 it should be about the same as a 16" barrel.

glocknurse said:

Shorter barrels=better inherent accuracy. It is the loss of velocity that will be your limiter for long range stuff with this firearm. With 7.62x39 it should be about the same as a 16" barrel.

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I'm calling BS...length of barrel does not make it more accurate. Length of barrel affects velocities.

I put a Sig Brace on my PAP M85NP pistol. If I were to do it again, I would have gone with the shockwave as I like it's looks better and more importantly, it's lighter and cost much less.

I like the AK pistol due to the fact that you can fire it when the brace is folded. You're not going to do that with an AR15 without having major issues.

I'm calling BS...length of barrel does not make it more accurate. Length of barrel affects velocities.

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Given the same barrel profile and all other things being equal (are they ever, really?), a shorter barrel will be stiffer and therefore more accurate.

One of the gun rags tested this idea years ago, testing for accuracy, then cutting 1" off the barrel (16" or so to begin), recrowning, and testing again until the barrel was ridiculously short.

Indeed the velocity decreased. They used a scope, so sight radius didn't factor in accuracy.

It was an interesting article, but I'm not sure how much of that translates into an AK pistol vs rifle argument. Probably none.

My understanding is that the gov says if you put that thing in your shoulder you have somehow changed the classification of that firearm.

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The BAFTE Technical Division claims this, but they have no law to back them up, as there is no illegal way to shoot a pistol (legally defined as a firearm intended to be shot with one hand).

aubie515 said:

I'm calling BS...length of barrel does not make it more accurate. Length of barrel affects velocities.

I put a Sig Brace on my PAP M85NP pistol. If I were to do it again, I would have gone with the shockwave as I like it's looks better and more importantly, it's lighter and cost much less.

I like the AK pistol due to the fact that you can fire it when the brace is folded. You're not going to do that with an AR15 without having major issues.

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Guess which tuning fork has the lowest frequency and deepest note?

Now guess which barrel will flex at a lower frequency and have some accuracy swing due to it? Precision rifles have been getting shorter and shorter for a reason. 18" is popular now. It's splitting hairs, but it's there.

OP, I prefer AR15's with a Thordson buffer cover kit or Shockwave brace.
http://shop.masdefense.com/Stocks-Pistol-Buffer-Tubes-Accessories_c23.htm