Is there a way to make birdshot useful for defense?

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I think the "dying quality in the world today" might just be the concept of simply agreeing to disagree.
 
I really like #4 and 5 shot because they will pass all the way through a squirrel at 35 yards and not stay in the meat to break my teeth. In rural self defence, besides humans, there are also snakes, poultry preditors, rabid skunks and coons, feral dogs and cats, etc. They often get more than one shot becauce I want them dead. If these guys on those videos and posting in this forum have not killed some stuff then they are using hearsay and assumptions. I have never seen balistic gel dressed in denim chasing my chickens, but I have seen coyotes and feral dogs. I think there is a lot of internet hype being spouted here. I f you want to know what it takes to disable or kill, go kill something. I was once was attacked by a guinea hen after AFTER I chopped its head off. My father killed a hog DRT with one rock from a sling shot. I have killed squirrels DRTwith gut shots and shot at others so many times they died of smoke inhalation.

I'm sure your squirrel killing experience is completely valid and applicable to self defense against humans. :rolleyes:
 
It is factually completely correct. You are not dealing with each individual shot passing through its own hole. You have lots of shot following other shot through tissue damaged by the leading shot. At the beginning of the impact the tissue is compromised. It's repeated impacts in multiple locations. It's one of the factors that make a shotgun so effective. You have to think of it like bead blasting. Same effect on a smaller scale. It's not speculation, it's common sense. Apparently that is a dying quality in the world today.

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Your hypothesis was demonstrated to be incorrect. Now move on.
 
Interesting DIY project. I'd be kind of interested to see at what distance the makeshift slugs are no longer accurate enough to predictably hit a BG sized target. With the hollow base, I'd think they're fly more or less front forward for a while.

As for birdshot for home defense. It seems to me like it's just too unpredictable to rely upon. Sure, at 6 feet it might turn a chest cavity into burger, but what if the fight occurs at a "down the hall" distance instead of an across the room distance?

I do think exploring the capabilities of intermediate sized shot (Size BB through F) would be interesting, but even if such loads prove adequate, typical buckshot loads are way cheaper and have proven effective. Still, there's no harm in seeing what a thing can do.
 
I want to fine tune the design and get a deeper cavity in the base. Maybe a marble in the bottom of the mold? Once I get a design that's repeatable, I'd like to pattern them at 25 yards. I've got some ideas for buckshot, too.
 
I heard the Inuit fill in around their birdshot with water and then let the shells freeze. These are powerful magic medicine on changing polar bears.

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You have not demonstrated anything to be false. Unless you can fire a shotgun at close range and have every single shot spread out evenly and enter in its own hole with none following behind it then you have done nothing but prove me right. Are hung up on buckshot or some larger load? We are talking about shot shells that contain lots of shot impacting at different times while flowing preceding shot into already compromised tissue. I'm not claiming lots of penetration, just assisted penetration. You can see this anytime you shoot something with a shotgun. Granted the farther out go go, the less likely it will happen. Doesn't change the fact that at close range it does happen. It's no theory, it's a fact. Maybe if you knew what you were looking at when you perform these "test" you would think differently.

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