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What's up with the background check passing? I am looking at possibly relocating to Nevada in the next 2-4 years. Now I see that Nevada passed a universal background check proposition. I have been counting on Nevada being a free state (concealed carry, open carry, NFA friendly), but now with background checks for private sales and recreational marijuana passing it seems to be Californiacating.

Is it safe for my 2A rights to continue planning a Nevada retirement location?
 
I don't live there, but I suggest that you need to understand the population (and voter) distribution of Nevada. Most of the state has an extremely low population density. You might find that the number of hotel maids in Las Vegas is greater than the entire population of other counties. (I am being slightly tongue-in-cheek here.) Many of the hotel maids vote along with their left-leaning union, so liberal items on the ballot might pass. If you don't believe it, consider how Clinton won the popular vote statewide. Did those pistol-packing cowboys in the center of the state vote for her? No, they were outvoted by the Las Vegas area.
 
Nevada gun owners came up short in the election. The UBC (Universal Background Check) proposition barely passed by 50.45% to 49.55%. Not sure if all votes have been counted yet.
 
I've lived here in Southern Nevada since 1992, and what was stated earlier is very accurate, Las Vegas is ran by a bunch of liberals, and therefore generates the majority of votes in this state. In other words pretty well dictates to the rest of the state what gets done. Incidentally, I'm getting ready to move over to Arizona here shortly, in fact my wife and I went over to that state and started looking at property. The order was very poorly written and I would hope that it would be repealed before it goes into effect.

Also the marijuana law also passed, so I'm wondering if the "recreational user" will have to give up there firearms. I certainly would hope so.
 
What's up with the background check passing? I am looking at possibly relocating to Nevada in the next 2-4 years. Now I see that Nevada passed a universal background check proposition. I have been counting on Nevada being a free state (concealed carry, open carry, NFA friendly), but now with background checks for private sales and recreational marijuana passing it seems to be Californiacating.

Is it safe for my 2A rights to continue planning a Nevada retirement location?
I would suggest Arizona if you like the desert. I'm in California and looking there myself.
 
It was one of those proposals that "looked good" to the layman, but absolutely has no effect on criminal misuse of firearms, and penalizes legal owners. Otherwise I didn't really hear any pro- or anti- Question 1 ads. Most of the ads were for the Senate race.

One bad thing about this state is that NICS goes through the Highway Patrol, and there is a $25 fee on FFL transactions. A CCW will waive it. I don't know of the purpose except $.

Voted yes on #2, can't see any good reason for prohibition.

I can't speak for Vegas, but I much prefer the chill Great Basin to Phoenix and Tucson's 100+ degree weather when it's dark.
 
I've lived here in Southern Nevada since 1992, and what was stated earlier is very accurate, Las Vegas is ran by a bunch of liberals, and therefore generates the majority of votes in this state. In other words pretty well dictates to the rest of the state what gets done. Incidentally, I'm getting ready to move over to Arizona here shortly, in fact my wife and I went over to that state and started looking at property. The order was very poorly written and I would hope that it would be repealed before it goes into effect.

Also the marijuana law also passed, so I'm wondering if the "recreational user" will have to give up there firearms. I certainly would hope so.

It seems to me that, somehow or another, states like Nevada, Maine and Colorado need to put a stop to these so called citizen initiatives in which out of state billionaires, like Michael Bloomberg, can buy laws in a state where they are not registered to vote. In my state, Washington, a law was passed affirming the use of out of state money, so unless we can get a bill to repeal it, it's too late for us. If we can't stop interlopers like Bloomberg from using their vast fortunes to buy influence, more states like Nevada, Washington and Colorado will fall victim. From what I can tell, Arizona is on the cusp of becoming another state that can be ruined for gun ownership by the likes of a Michael Bloomberg.
 
I would suggest Arizona if you like the desert. I'm in California and looking there myself.
We'd be glad to have you! Be sure to have a look a Prescott. Small-town feel, National Forest on two sides, plenty of places to shoot, lots of gun stores, and all the requisite shopping usually found in bigger cities. Downside: it's high country, so we do get some snow in the winter. Not a lot, but some.
 
Thanks for the suggestions about AZ, but with our family & grandkids all living as subjects of the state in the Sacramento area, I need to station grandma within easy driving distance. Reno is right at 2 hrs. drive from their locations & grandma has compromised with grandpa to stay on the free side of the CA border as long as it's a "easy" drive. If I stretch it out to 3 hours drive or more I will lose the battle.:(
 
We'd be glad to have you! Be sure to have a look a Prescott. Small-town feel, National Forest on two sides, plenty of places to shoot, lots of gun stores, and all the requisite shopping usually found in bigger cities. Downside: it's high country, so we do get some snow in the winter. Not a lot, but some.

I used to have friends who lived in Prescott and my wife and I went down there as often as we could. However, some friends died and some moved to other states, so we haven't been there in a while. I've still got a soft spot for Prescott, though. It's one of the best places in America for people like us on the high road. I like Boise, Idaho too. If I were younger I could see myself living in either place. But, my roots are too deeply implanted here in Seattle, so I guess I'll stay here and continue fighting it out with the loonies.
 
It seems to me that, somehow or another, states like Nevada, Maine and Colorado need to put a stop to these so called citizen initiatives in which out of state billionaires, like Michael Bloomberg, can buy laws in a state where they are not registered to vote.

It wasn't a ballot initiative here. It was rammed through the legislature almost as hastily and in spite of the citizens as NY's SAFE act.

UBC they may have gotten with a popular vote, but the magazine restriction I highly doubt.
 
We'd be glad to have you! Be sure to have a look a Prescott. Small-town feel, National Forest on two sides, plenty of places to shoot, lots of gun stores, and all the requisite shopping usually found in bigger cities. Downside: it's high country, so we do get some snow in the winter. Not a lot, but some.
Thanks for the tip, just checked and it does look nice! :)
 
Nevada is basically 2 cities, Las Vegas and Reno. Those populations dictate the votes of the entire state. Harry Reid, who is retiring, is very good at organizing unions - specifically the hotel maid/cleaning services unions - to vote Democrat. That's not a joke. He actually did that. You will probably not see anything much stricter in Nevada as far as gun control though. Las Vegas used to have handgun registration and that went away. My guess is, with Reid gone, Nevada will become more purple.
 
Nevada had the same fight that Maine did, and being a Mainer I can tell you it was a monumental challenge. The hard part was reaching non-gun owners and explaining to them that although the title sounded really good, the words in the actual bill were very bad for us all. I'm sure Nevada, like Maine, saw Bloomberg dropping millions and a biased media helping him pave the way. At least the majority of our law enforcement officers publicly opposed the UBC bill in Maine, which carried a lot of weight with non-gun owners.

It was a tough fight and knowing how hard we worked in Maine and only squeaked by proved it for us. I can't imagine the frustration Nevadans felt losing so closely. I'm sure many spent countless time and money fighting it and I'm sure many sat back and said 'it'll never happen'. That was the case with us but thank God we lucked out.
 
Implementation of Nevada Question 1 is on hold since it is contains a Catch 22 making compliance impossible. Also, the State constitution prohibits ballot initiatives from being amended or repealed for 3 years.

The law rejected the Nevada Point of Contact and mandated background checks by NICS. The FBI is refusing to participate. In a letter to the State AG, the FBI made it clear that a state ballot initiative cannot appropriate Federal Resources. The FBI also said that they much prefer the situation in the 12 state that act as POCs because they have access to more mental health and protective order information that the FBI.

Here is the State AG's opinion: http://ag.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/agnvgov/Content/Publications/AGO_2016-12.pdf (FBI letter included at end).

Mike
 
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And I guess I can eat crow because the arbitrary $25 fee for using NHP meant that the Bloombergies' poorly researched question was unenforceable.
 
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