AR Overload...

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primalmu

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I've found myself in an interesting predicament. I've been going a bit crazy in regards to ARs the past 2 years. I currently have 5 rifles:
  • 6.5 Grendel for target and hunting (hopefully)
  • 20" scoped (3-9x40) rifle in 5.56
  • 18" scoped rifle (1-4x) rifle in 5.56 -- Black Hole Weaponry barrel
  • 16" scoped rifle (10x fixed) rifle in .223 Wylde -- RRA upper
  • 16" rifle with Vortex Strikefire II -- relatively light weight
I'm finding that I don't have the time to shoot all these rifles. Only two of them are even sighted in. I'm really considering consolidating rifles right now. I've got a coyote hunting setup for future use, a Plano case with custom foam insert that lets me store my 6.5 Grendel with the 1-4x scoped upper in a single spot. I can also see myself either ditching the 20" rifle or the .223 Wylde upper and opting for swapping lowers instead of having a dedicated lower for each rifle.

Part of this line of thinking is that I'm starting to get interested in milsurp rifles again and would love to get another K31 and maybe a 1903. The only downside is that the AR market is so saturated right now that its unlikely I'd be able to unload anything without significant losses on my end...

But hey, I guess this isn't that much of a problem, right? I mean, how can one have too many guns?
 
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LOL @ varminterror :D

I'm finding that I don't have the time to shoot all these rifles. Only two of them are even sighted in. I'm really considering consolidating rifles right now.
By that logic, I'd have to get rid of 80% of my collection. I have at least a half dozen guns I've never shot at all and probably 20 or 30 that I haven't shot in 10-15 years.

It does seem that I shoot a few more than any others, but every once in a while I'll shoot one that I haven't touched in a while and wonder why it had been in the back of the safe so long.

As far as AR15s alone I have:

  • 1/9 twist flat top 5.56 carbine (shot regularly)
  • 1/7 twist flat top 5.56 carbine (shot regularly)
  • Lightweight fixed carry handle 5.56 carbine (haven't shot in at least a year)
  • 9mm flat top carbine (haven't shot in at least a year)
  • Flat top HBAR 223 rifle (haven't shot in at least a year)
  • A1 style fixed carry handle 5.56 rifle (haven't shot for more than 5 years)
  • A2 style fixed carry handle 5.56 rifle (haven't shot for more than 5 years)
  • 7.62x39 flat top carbine (haven't shot for more than 5 years)
  • 22lr flat top rifle (haven't shot for more than 5 years)
 
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I see Varminterror and I raise you...
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Let's see,
Colt Sportster 20" HBAR
E.A. 20" A1 converted to A2
Bushmaster Carbon 15 in 9MM 16"
CMMG Piston M4 type 16"
CMMG M4 type 16"
CMMG AR lower with 22LR upper
Colt 6971 M4 16"
Just Right Carbine 16" in 40 S&W
Just Right upper 16" in 9MM
S&W M&P 15 22LR
Bushmaster 22LR upper
Local manufacture lower built up as SBR with 10" 5.56 upper
10" 300 Blackout upper
16" 300 Blackout upper
Plus 4 more of those lowers and 2 Spikes Lowers

I don't think I'm forgetting any, so what problems do you speak of?
 
Never to many I have some that I have not shot for years no worries, may even add more, one thing that is nice when I take my son and daughter shooting I can hand them each a rifle and have one for myself and wife
sometimes extras are good
 
I guess i am in no danger of overload since i have only thirty five AR's....i try to shoot each of them on a regular basis but it seems a half dozen favorites seem to gobble more amo than the others. Many of the rifles i have built but also a large number are factory issues, either way they are quality builds using fine components. Along with my personal stash i have given a number to friends and relatives.
But AR's are not my only firearms obsession as I have collected GI Carbines for the past fifty years, Colt SAA's, Winchester lever carbines and rifles, Star small, medium and large frame pistols, etc., etc.
Fortunately i am retired and have the time to crank out the thousands of .223 ammo I shoot on a single stage press. My favorite AR cartridge is the 300 Blackout and i roll my own supersonic rounds to keep the rifles and pistol running at a reasonable cost as i use them as plinkers most of the time.
Come to think of it everyone should have more than one AR, it would be un-American not to. :)
 
By that logic, I'd have to get rid of 80% of my collection. I have at least a half dozen guns I've never shot at all and probably 20 or 30 that I haven't shot in 10-15 years.

Same here.

Besides, the one who dies with the most guns wins.:)
 
I guess i am in no danger of overload since i have only thirty five AR's....i try to shoot each of them on a regular basis but it seems a half dozen favorites seem to gobble more amo than the others. Many of the rifles i have built but also a large number are factory issues, either way they are quality builds using fine components. Along with my personal stash i have given a number to friends and relatives.
But AR's are not my only firearms obsession as I have collected GI Carbines for the past fifty years, Colt SAA's, Winchester lever carbines and rifles, Star small, medium and large frame pistols, etc., etc.
Fortunately i am retired and have the time to crank out the thousands of .223 ammo I shoot on a single stage press. My favorite AR cartridge is the 300 Blackout and i roll my own supersonic rounds to keep the rifles and pistol running at a reasonable cost as i use them as plinkers most of the time.
Come to think of it everyone should have more than one AR, it would be un-American not to. :)
you have to have a lot of time and a lot of spare money to shoot all those rifles. trouble is when you are old with all those guns you wonder what will happen to them and what you will do with all of them. it is all fun and games until some one loses a collection :evil:
 
I'm 31 years old and I own 22 rifles and several AR's I'm in the process of building 2 more. As far as losing a collection my wife, brother, dad, and soon to come daughter will get all my rifles. They all understand that my rifles are to be passed down and kept in the family, NEVER to be sold.

AR-15's I have are all different configurations and different calibers. They are mostly setup for hunting game and double as 300 yards and further at steel plates.
Stag Model 3L 5.56 Radical Firearms 6.5Grendel R-15 30 Rem AR Wildcat AR-15 7mm Valkyrie and I'm currently doing a 6.8SPC and a .260 Rem
 
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Maybe to cure my affliction I need to just expand to different calibers rather than keep building .223 rifles...

Although I've got a 6.5 Grendel, I could certainly see a use for a 6.8 SPC. I guess I should start saving up for a supressor so I can justify a .300 Blackout, too.
 
Sorry to tell you this but you got the disease and there is no cure other than buying more uppers. lol

I have hunted with the 6.5LBC/Grendel, 6.8 SPCII (Amazing power), 6.5BR, 50 Beowulf, etc... but you always want more.

I have developed a few wildcats for all sort of crazy reasons and ended up loving the 35 caliber. It wacks them faster than the AR10.


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size does matter! lol

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I can relate. I'm trying to stop at 3...rifle, carbine, and pistol. But then there's the .410 option so I might have to build an AR shotgun....and then there's the ar10 pattern which is a market quickly consolidating into affordably built guns.
 
Although I think an AR-10 would be fun, they seem a bit too bulky to me. Plus, I have no need to be able to sling such expensive ammo downrange that quickly. ;)

If I ever move back east and get the ability to hunt hogs, I'd really like to build a .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf. In my mind, those rounds are almost perfect for hog killing.
 
I'd really like to build a .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf. In my mind, those rounds are almost perfect for hog killing.
Yes they are amazing. The main reason I built the 35 was because I wanted heavy lead yet improve the ballistics and power down range of those taking a lethal blow to 300 yards.
But within the average ranges and if one doesn't mind a bit more pronounced trajectory the big bore are true hunter's caliber. Also for hunting in the brush / thick woods you want a 35 caliber and
above to avoid deflection. I like to shoot flatter otherwise the 458 is perfect. The main thing is to find good quality bolts that will not break.
 
Yes they are amazing. The main reason I built the 35 was because I wanted heavy lead yet improve the ballistics and power down range of those taking a lethal blow to 300 yards.
But within the average ranges and if one doesn't mind a bit more pronounced trajectory the big bore are true hunter's caliber. Also for hunting in the brush / thick woods you want a 35 caliber and
above to avoid deflection. I like to shoot flatter otherwise the 458 is perfect. The main thing is to find good quality bolts that will not break.
This pretty well sums up my reason for building my 6.8spc. I do like the idea of 35 cal though. I would even consider running a 35 cal pistol so I could run 9mm or 357 bullets for light loads then amp up to rifle bullets for hunting purposes. Off to google barrel hunting...
 
WestKentucky, your 35 caliber AR sounds very interesting. If I had more disposable income to put towards guns and gunsmithing tools I might try something along those lines myself. Unfortunately, I'm limited to chamberings that I can find barrels in without having to rechamber myself.
 
This pretty well sums up my reason for building my 6.8spc. I do like the idea of 35 cal though.
I would even consider running a 35 cal pistol so I could run 9mm or 357 bullets for light loads then amp up to rifle bullets for hunting purposes.
Off to google barrel hunting...

The 6.8SPCII is a lightning bolt. 95gr TTSX is a good exmple. you can safely pump it to 2,850fps from a 18" barrel that is a lethal round.
That is about the best do it all, do it pretty well, factory caliber that I like,.. of course, if big game is in the menu I like to have a bit more killing
power but is not like the 6.8 will disappoint for deer hogs and the average game size even a tad larger. Move closer. Become a better hunter.
With small calibers I like to keep striking speeds around or above the ideal 2100,2200fps striking speed with decent grain and with premium
bullets to maximize nervous system disruption and not rely only in the wounding potential like other small AR rounds.
Wounding should be also broad and deep anyway.

I think as you up your grain and frontal section you can achieve the same with lower impact thresholds and less
deflection. That is why the larger bores as such fast killers with massive shock aside form the see through holes.
That is the other reason for the 35 caliber. just bought 3K 200gr TMJ pistol bullets for 12 cents each.
It also propels the 140gr ftx to 2600fps from a 16" barrel and 2450 from a 10" pistol barrel.
180gr affordable bullets do 2,450fps and 2300 respectively.
The 200ftx for example has the same punch at 300 yards as the AK47 at the muzzle with the same barrel length.
I can get more done with 16" than with the 308 itself that it doesn't make a lot of sense so short.
Plus the 35cal is already in the bursh gun category (no deflection). 250gr speer clocks 2000-2010 fps.
That is not the ideal load but many bullets carriy the mail further than the larger bores due to the better ballistics.
I think the 200-220gr is just perfect for the AR15 otherwise is too much and doesn't really pay off downrange
specially when we extend the range. surprinsingly these bullets are also great for the AR10 courtesy of the
358 winchester that gives massive killing power.

I put a lot of though into the terminal ballistics. Fast clean kills are very important to me. I hate to see animals suffer
unnecessarily and I only kill what I am going to eat.

These are the 140gr FTX ... I am sure the tips are melting but who cares right?
anyone who likes the 357Mag and Max will understand how fun this can be.
Imagine the 357 max on steroids. That is what I got.

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I will open a new thread to document this project if anyone is interested.
 
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If anyone likes the idea of a 35 caliber AR-15 I strongly suggest you Google ".358 Yeti" and chambered barrels and loaded ammo are available...
 
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