John Ross for Director of BATFE in the Trump Administration

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John Ross -- only problem I see is that this forum has had a huge turnover in membership over the past few years -- you haven't been around for a few years -- and I doubt many folks left here either know who you are or what you've done ...

Otherwise, heck yeah!
 
John Ross authored the acclaimed "Unintended Consequences." An excellent and interesting dramatic novel about the gun culture in America. When it initially came out, a few friends and I bought several copies apiece and spread them around. Reactions were most interesting. I was still in law enforcement at the time. I still have an autographed copy on my shelf.

Mr. Ross has been a very active proponent for the armed citizen and he's very knowledgeable in terms of historical gun control laws and statistics - their use and misuse.

I would be most pleased to see Mr. Ross at the head of the notorious BATFE. An agency that truly needs reformation from the ground up.

It would certainly be worth the time to Google him up and find out a bit about the fellow.
 
John Lott, Ph.D. would be more likely to make the cut for ATF director, but we're more likely to see a senior LE or legal appointee that at least is friendly to the 2A than either Mr. Ross or Dr. Lott.
 
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The President -Elect is known to float the name of a nominee to see the reaction. It's still a matter of observing whether there is a face to face with him, and how he meshes with his proposed Chief of Staff, etc. There are usually ongoing meetings and the final name is often not as expected as we sometimes would anticipate.

One issue with nominating an ATF head is that for the most part, as any other agency, the head is seen as an appointee - not someone who rose thru the ranks. Therefore appointees have to sell themselves to the rank and file to garner trust and actually get traction for change. Case in point, the VA, which is still suffering thru a massive leadership deficit attempting to cleanup an out of control bureaucracy which has proven intolerant to change and is even resistant to common sense. While much worse than some of the ATF's problems the real issue is thinking of the BATF as an enemy when it is in fact a regulatory agency empowered by Congress and subject to the President's direction - as we have well seen demonstrated.

Not to forget that the previous history of Presidents in office is to perpetuate their predecessors policies. We have yet to see PE Trump demonstrate that he can and will bring change. His election certainly was a masterful campaign - his command of the office remains to be seen. Things are looking well but, I'm from Missouri. Show me.
 
I think the one thing we can expect is that there will be a change at the ATF leadership spot under Trump.
 
Oh man, I think it's a great idea...put a rabid and exceptionally literate RKBA Poet~Warrior in charge of ATF! But having read and enjoyed Unintended Consequences I can't help but think that appointment would be a hard sell given the protagonist's fictional crusade against ATF agents. But then again, this is a new day for America and anything is possible. You have my support and I'll pass the word along John!
 
the real issue is thinking of the BATF as an enemy when it is in fact a regulatory agency empowered by Congress
If their leadership and rank and file are opposed to the Second Amendment, then they are an enemy. Obama's appointee is certainly an enemy.

As to the rank and file, I found the examiners I dealt with resolving some minor issues getting my SBR and C&R renewed were helpful, courteous, and professional. I've never interacted with any field agents.
 
Folks, spread this as far and wide as you can if you think this would be a good thing for America.

Go to this thread and look for about the 10th post, from 12:26 AM January 2, 2017:

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...en-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-3413152

John Ross



If I think WHAT would be good for America?

Seriously, this is nothing more than a drive by post.


Even just a few sentences stating his position and then a 'click here for more info' would be A LOT better. He even could have just cut and pasted what's in the link here.


He could be a good choice.... but he certainly didn't give me any reason to think that and want to click the link.
 
I thought, not the John Ross who authored Unintended Consequences!!! But its him. This is a total throw down to all of the gun haters out there. It would be fabulous! Assuming that President Trump will speak thru his appointees this bodes well for all Americans.
 
BATFE Director still has to pass Senate confirmation.

It was ironic when Perry was tapped for Energy because of his recent stance of annihilating the agency as well as his comic memory lapse* in '12, but apart from that he is still very much a 'typical' politician with many friends in party, private, & public spheres and a respectable record of competent governorship. That is to say, he is likely to get strong party backing during the nomination which makes his confirmation far more certain on the front-end without the need for politically expensive enticements for holdouts. These two aspects make the pick potentially brilliant assuming the goal is the spooling down of the agency; who better to oversee a ruthless downsizing than a well-respected, experienced figure who himself has little respect or fondness for his charge?

John Ross authored an interesting but fantastical story prominently featuring the murder of and revolt against government agents and the official rule of law**, yet we're to believe a "Law and Order President" and congressional Republican party that is historically lukewarm at best on gun policy, will unite in sufficient numbers to pass him over what will be huge opposition? A man I'd think would be outspoken in strident opposition to president Trump's "No Fly No Buy" proposal? No.

Someone involved in the imports & manufacture biz needs to be tapped; they know all the ins and outs of how moronic and onerous are feature bans, pistol points, demill standards, "assault weapon" barrel bans, "assault shotgun" bans, arbitrary & capricious enforcement and extrajudicial seizure at ports, "sporting purposes" requirements, armor piercing ammunition, ITAR restrictions, NFA weapons, amnesty policies, sting operations, gun running operations, Tech Branch letters, and the full extent of Attorney General and BATFE Director discretion. Complete and utter minutia, but that's how the BATFE has been hurting us, and bold talk alone won't be digging us out of decades of bad precedent. The BATFE Director is still bound by the laws that govern the agency, so the notion of wholesale abandonment of enforcement is a non-starter, and will only result in rapid impeachment at the hands of "Tough on Crime" congressmen. Unlike the situation of the past eight years, non-enforcement acts will not be as tolerated by the minority party, because a good portion of the majority party will be in opposition (most notably, its leadership figures in congress)

Mr. Ross may know these things, he may even be an expert, but unless he has or knows the bureaucratic contacts specifically involved in these areas he will have a hard time navigating a complex organization that will be devoted to foiling all efforts to scale back operations or enforcement abuses. A veteran navigator of the above litany of regulatory infringements is what is needed to be calling the shots that dismantle the BATFE's authority, not someone who excels at speech writing. I'd appoint Ted Clutter before anyone else I can think of offhand, since we'd at least be certain to see a concerted movement to a more efficient approvals process for the BATFE's paperwork operations with administration backing (this in conjunction with the Hearing Protection Act would effectively gut the most abusive aspects of the NFA without the Epic World-Ending Showdown a direct attack toward formal repeal of the law would entail)

That memo Trump had sent to the EPA which displayed a frighteningly (to EPA bureaucrats) detailed understanding of the operations, structure, and chain of responsibility in that agency was a bright red sign indicating a very serious review would shortly be under way along with changes***. We need to see something similar directed to the BATFE (NFA wait times fiasco, eForms fiasco, machinegun registry fiasco, Tech Branch opinion letters fiasco, sting operation fiascoes, info on dissolving the Bureau into the FBI or similar, and of course the Fast and Furious debacle & to what extent the State Dept and Mexican actors were involved along with which Bureau figures) which constitutes a formal declaration of war on the regulatory body's decades-long overreach and abuse of the American public. That will speak volumes more than the nomination of an obscure firebrand who is certain to be shot down gloriously in the Senate and quickly become an excuse to appoint a moderate invested in maintaining the status quo (or simply abandoning the appointment & letting a deputy-director do it all as with recent history)

If Mr. Ross wishes to be taken more seriously by the public at large in addition to the most ardent acolytes of The Culture such as myself, I would highly suggest publicizing his credentials and history of service/activism/education in readily accessible terminals (being unfamiliar with him apart from Unintended Consequences****, I checked out his page on Wikipedia; if there is information that would make him a compelling pick for the Bureau it needs to be listed on there). Quite frankly, all I see in a quick search is he wrote a cult-classic novel that American terrorist Timothy McVeigh had a taste for imitating, and was a dedicated evangelist of 'gun culture' through education & activism thereafter. A fine and noble resume of which I myself am envious, but I don't see how it uniquely qualifies him for leadership of a large regulatory/enforcement body with entrenched corruption & incompetence spanning the nation (that I'm told also does a lot of good in the end, which the public will want to continue).

A Ross appointment will go down exactly like Debo P. Adegbile, who Obama nominated for Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at DOJ; "Obama Names Cop-Killer Fan to Civil Rights Commission." Doesn't matter if that's not entirely accurate, or if the plot of Unintended Consequences has factors that justify the actions of its protagonists, this is how it will play in the public square. Adegbile was not confirmed (though he did manage to secure an appointment that did not require Senate confirmation)

TCB

*Likely contributed to by a cocktail of pain meds shortly following a painful back surgery
**Tyranny being an overriding factor as to the morality of these aspects; a hard sell to a complacent public
***Which was met immediately with promises of resistance and noncooperation. The director & his staff will need to be able to outsmart the organization before they can attempt to dismantle or destroy it from within, which is harder for an outsider with no relevant experience
****A fun read, and seemingly solely responsible for the current stern opposition to an Article V constitutional convention which is fully capable of excising tumors like the BATFE from the body of the Republic, by those who would otherwise be dedicated to dissolving the agency by all such peaceful/lawful means still available to us.
 
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In the interest of keeping this from remaining a drive-by thread with strong political connotations doomed for closure...

From John Ross's Link said:
Another Dollar-A-Year Man for the Trump Administration by
Timothy J. Mullin and John Ross

Treepers: I’ve been urged to volunteer to be a part of the Trump Administration, and need a good place to publish these letters, that supporters can link to. I’d like that place to be CTH.<Conservative Tree House>

First, an introductory letter from Timothy J. Mullin, then my own to President-elect Trump.

JR

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To all Trump Administration supporters:

I suspect that most of you reading this are like me, and figure that anyone who wants to get a government job is likely one of two types: First, there are the lazy and stupid, who can’t compete in the private sector, but still want to get a high-paying job with good benefits. That’s okay, I suppose, as such people are not dangerous, just a drag on everyone else. Worse are those who want to get the job to exert power over other people, but who know that with their own skills and abilities alone, they could not do it. However, if they have the weight and power of the government at their command, they will be able to rule over others. Then, of course, there are those who are both things, the lazy & stupid who also want to control the lives of other people.

Alternatively, there are a few citizens who are willing to make sacrifices of both money and, more critically, time, to take a government position because they think it is the right thing to do. They know that they can bring insight and ability to a position that will make the country a better place–a better place not for themselves, but for others who will come after them. People like this get little value for themselves from their efforts, for they have already managed to structure their lives so that the reforms that they will encourage have little impact on them, but will benefit others.

Among this group of people who volunteer to sacrifice their own best interests, much the same as a soldier will do for the country’s best interests, is my friend, John Ross.

John has agreed to offer himself up to serve in the new Trump Administration as the Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. This Agency is one riddled with scandal and is certainly one of the least admirable of our existing federal agencies, considered by most as the “F Troop” of federal law enforcement.

Why, then, would anyone who has everything going for him, as John does, be willing to take on such a position? It is because he is the man for the job, and realizes that his country desperately needs his abilities and insights at this so-very-critical time.

For those who may have come in late to the subject of the BATFE and its interaction with the citizens and civil rights of our country, John Ross is the author of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, the definitive book chronicling the gun culture of our country, and the attacks on it by our own government. This book has risen to as high as No. 7 on the Amazon hardcover sales chart, and is now in its eighth printing. It has sold an astounding number of copies, but more critically, it has achieved world-wide fame and been lauded by many readers (too many to count) as the best book they have ever read, excepting the Bible.

Not only is John Ross an accomplished author of great renown familiar with the BATFE and its many issues, he has been an active participant in the field for over 40 years, holding BATFE-issued federal licenses at a variety of levels, so he has had plenty of interaction with that Agency.

Of course, merely being the single most influential chronicler of the gun culture and holding licenses issued by the BATFE would hardly be sufficient to administer an Agency like the BATFE if he did not also have the intellect and managerial skills needed for such duties. His many articles in a variety of publications, like The American Thinker, as well as graduation from Amherst College, with BA degrees in both English and Economics, all give strong evidence of his intellectual capabilities. A successful quarter-century career managing others in the securities field, forty years and counting in Aspen real estate, and being an entrepreneur who developed and promoted a specialty handgun (the massive Smith & Wesson Ross Model 500 revolver), clear up any questions about the latter point.

Cleaning up an Agency like the BATFE, which is riddled with mismanagement, has been exposed numerous time for engaging in criminal behavior, and has a history of civil rights violations such that the honest citizenry of our country distrusts them at a level unreached by any other government agency, calls for a man like John Ross to take control and, to quote the new President, “Drain the Swamp.”

At my urging, John has written a letter to President-elect Donald Trump, following Mr. Trump’s example by offering himself as a “Dollar A Year” man. Such opportunities to get talent and skills like his are almost unheard of at the Federal level when accompanied by the correct attitude and philosophy. With his permission, I am attaching a copy of his letter offering his services.

I would encourage all who read this, and would like to see a rogue agency be brought back into the mold of an organization that can be trusted by those who applaud what our country was founded to achieve, to join me. Please contact the President-elect and ask him to take advantage of this superb opportunity for our nation.

Timothy J. Mullin is a 1973 graduate of the University of Chicago Law School and has a private law practice in St. Louis, MO. He has written over a dozen books on firearms-related topics, with emphasis on their history, cultural significance, and tactical use. He has also published scores of firearms-related magazine articles, many on the legal realities of protecting oneself from an overreaching Federal Government.

From John Ross:

Dear President-Elect Trump:

It is Christmas Day as I write this, and I have been watching the things you have been doing as President-Elect with ever increasing admiration. I would like to be a “Dollar a Year Man” in your administration—that is to say, to follow your example and eschew a government salary.

The position I’d like to fill is Director of BATFE. This would dovetail well with your policy of appointing established critics of various troubled agencies (EPA, HUD, etc.) as the people to best lead them, reform them, or, in some cases, oversee their dissolution.
The experience and attitude I would bring to BATFE would focus on four areas, all consistent with your philosophy of “Make America Great Again”:

Restore an environment in which the weapons invented by America’s individual small arms designers were the best in the world, with the attendant benefit to the U.S. Military;
Nurture an environment of innovation in all disciplines regulated by BATFE;
Preserve and advance the current and historic knowledge and techniques that are slowly being lost here in America;
Increase legal commerce (and the attendant tax revenue) in ways consistent with your strong pro-business platform.

Many of these goals can be attained with policy shifts within the BATFE which I would initiate, and would not require Congress to pass new legislation.

My Credentials:

While I have never managed a group of people as large as a Federal Agency, I spent over 25 years running offices and training departments in the Securities industry. I was successful enough at these endeavors that, like you, I can afford to work for free to help put our country back on the right track so that it will be stronger and more free for our descendants.

Of equal importance is my 40-year background in firearms and explosives. These fields are unlike most segments of American commerce in that they generate tremendous passion among their participants. More than one American firearms company, looking to improve its market position, has hired a Chief Executive who was a great success at running a company that made washing machines or some other common manufactured product, only to discover that consumers don’t think the same way when buying guns as they do when shopping for appliances. The same is true for explosives, particularly in the growing fireworks industry. Business in this industry is bigger every year, and we are currently seeing over $1 Billion in domestic annual revenues. The BATFE should be directed by someone who understands these market realities with every fiber of his being.

The fact that I have zero experience in the manufacture, importation, sale, or distribution of alcohol or tobacco products is not, as it might first seem, a negative in regards to heading this federal agency. According to the General Accounting Office, BATFE spends 76% of its annual budget on firearms-related operations, and 22% on explosives and the attendant arson investigations.

Despite having “Alcohol” and “Tobacco” in its name, only 2% of BATFE’s budget is spent on alcohol and tobacco issues. The lion’s share of that tiny budget percentage is dedicated to thwarting illicit smuggling operations involving the movement of cigarettes from Virginia, where the state excise tax is 30 cents per pack, to New York and Chicago, where state and local tax rates are $5.85 and $6.16 per pack, respectively. See this article for documentation:

https://www.nap.edu/read/19016/chapter/8#142

These statistics clearly show that it is imperative that a BATFE Director be intimately familiar with the areas where BATFE spends 98% of its budget, namely Firearms and Explosives. Even more importantly, the new Director must be sensitive to the legal and cultural issues that exist in the interplay between the Agency he directs and the citizens with whom it interacts.

I am that person. I will bring experience to the job, and restore credibility to this tarnished Agency.

Sincerely yours,

John Ross

<reposted by TCB for previously stated reason as well as CTH's site having a ton of ads, scripts, and some malware>

...also, I snickered at the BATFE being likened to F-Troop
 
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Folks, spread this as far and wide as you can if you think this would be a good thing for America.

Umm, I think I'll pass.

Anyone who is going to lead a Federal Law Enforcement Agency needs to have the respect of the rank-and-file agents in the field and their implicit consent to be led in order to do the job effecitvely. I can't imagine that respect and consent being given to someone whose fictionalized account of the agency portrays them as active enemies of the American people. I would prefer the ATF job go to someone who the rank-and-file will respect and thus fully support in making whatever changes may need to be made.
 
Trump owes the NRA. You can be sure that the NRA will influence this decision. The BATFE was created from the corrupt Alcohol Revenue Service. The Revenue Service was due for closure. LBJ crated the 1968 Gun Control fiasco. He renamed and kept the criminal ATF/BATFE to enforce his draconian 68' gun law.:thumbdown:
 
Umm, I think I'll pass.

Anyone who is going to lead a Federal Law Enforcement Agency needs to have the respect of the rank-and-file agents in the field and their implicit consent to be led in order to do the job effecitvely. I can't imagine that respect and consent being given to someone whose fictionalized account of the agency portrays them as active enemies of the American people. I would prefer the ATF job go to someone who the rank-and-file will respect and thus fully support in making whatever changes may need to be made.

When I wrote UC, it was the "bad old days." Remember cat stomping, and jacking Katona's pregnant wife up against a wall and making her miscarry, and video of the ATF Director telling his agents to lie under oath?

UC was a NOVEL, and it may have done no small amount of good. Remember what DIDN'T happen at the Montana Freemen standoff over almost three months in the spring of 1996, after UC had sold out its first printing? Did you know that Obama/Holder's "Fast & Furious" scheme to subvert the Constitution was brought out into the light by ATF agents who saw the evil and wanted no part of it?

More agents than you realize would quietly support me for Director.

JR
 
Anyone who is going to lead a Federal Law Enforcement Agency needs to have the respect of the rank-and-file agents in the field and their implicit consent to be led in order to do the job effecitvely. I can't imagine that respect and consent being given to someone whose fictionalized account of the agency portrays them as active enemies of the American people. I would prefer the ATF job go to someone who the rank-and-file will respect and thus fully support in making whatever changes may need to be made.

Implicit consent to be led? While there are plenty of good agents, the agency in general is a rogue agency that has been ignoring Congress and their field agents harassing everyone they come in contact with (at least in my region). They need a tight, tight leash or to be put down.
 
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