Anti gun consequences of Paris attack

Carl N. Brown said:

post #208 Old Shatterhand (??) that threw me for a loop. "... a fictional character in Western novels by German writer Karl May (1842–1912) ..." He was as popular a fictional character in Germany as American author Howard Pyle's "Robin Hood" was in the U.S. (I'll bet European impressions of the Old West are about as accurate as my impression of Medieval England.)

This thread is doing a service by giving European perspectives on European gun laws and gun rights.

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Old Shatterhand (??) that threw me for a loop. "... a fictional character in Western novels by German writer Karl May (1842–1912) ..." He was as popular a fictional character in Germany as American author Howard Pyle's "Robin Hood" was in the U.S. (I'll bet European impressions of the Old West are about as accurate as my impression of Medieval England.)

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lilguy said:

Automatic weapons are not banned in the US. Many 10s of thousands of them in circulation. They are in a federal registry and you need to jump through hoops and pay a lot of money to own one. The number is finite, with no new ones allowed to be sold into the civilian market. Some state laws vary and may ban ownership.

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Maximalist said:

I notice that this isn't updated much, however I think you all should know that the attacks were used as a mean for the European Comission to strenghten gun laws all over Europe. Its a very long story, but in short there is supposebly a number of people working within the EU to disarm civilians. Using this event as a trigger they tried to push a law tha prohibits EU citizen the right to own A clas guns and (Think AK47 & AR15) and limiting right to own semi automatic weapons. The draft was also very unclear and might affect anythin from a hunting rifle to a revolver depending on how it iterpered (Stupid word).
The worst part of it is that they claim this is a draft aimed at illegal guns and terrorist while the only ones that would get stung are legal gun owners.
In Europe with the problem isnt legal guns (0,23% of armed crimes are carried out with legal weapons, and those few cases its normaly stolen military items).

In my country sweden, there has never ever occured a theft of a civilian owned A class gun. And there has been exactly zero crimes commited with an A class gun. Still gun owners in Europe (by far the most law abiding citizens of all) are ranked as terrorits in the eyes of the few and powefull in the EU comission.

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CDW4ME said:

I thought the majority of civilians in Europe were already essentially disarmed.

Can they own handguns at thier home?
Can they own semiautomatic rifles at their home with "high capacity" magazines?
Can they legally conceal carry handguns?

If the three above are not a yes, their rights have already been infringed.

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Maximalist said:

I notice that this isn't updated much, however I think you all should know that the attacks were used as a mean for the European Comission to strenghten gun laws all over Europe. Its a very long story, but in short there is supposebly a number of people working within the EU to disarm civilians. Using this event as a trigger they tried to push a law tha prohibits EU citizen the right to own A clas guns and (Think AK47 & AR15) and limiting right to own semi automatic weapons. The draft was also very unclear and might affect anythin from a hunting rifle to a revolver depending on how it iterpered (Stupid word).
The worst part of it is that they claim this is a draft aimed at illegal guns and terrorist while the only ones that would get stung are legal gun owners.
In Europe with the problem isnt legal guns (0,23% of armed crimes are carried out with legal weapons, and those few cases its normaly stolen military items).

In my country sweden, there has never ever occured a theft of a civilian owned A class gun. And there has been exactly zero crimes commited with an A class gun. Still gun owners in Europe (by far the most law abiding citizens of all) are ranked as terrorits in the eyes of the few and powefull in the EU comission.

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Maximalist said:

I notice that this isn't updated much, however I think you all should know that the attacks were used as a mean for the European Comission to strenghten gun laws all over Europe. Its a very long story, but in short there is supposebly a number of people working within the EU to disarm civilians. Using this event as a trigger they tried to push a law tha prohibits EU citizen the right to own A clas guns and (Think AK47 & AR15) and limiting right to own semi automatic weapons. The draft was also very unclear and might affect anythin from a hunting rifle to a revolver depending on how it iterpered (Stupid word).
The worst part of it is that they claim this is a draft aimed at illegal guns and terrorist while the only ones that would get stung are legal gun owners.
In Europe with the problem isnt legal guns (0,23% of armed crimes are carried out with legal weapons, and those few cases its normaly stolen military items).

In my country sweden, there has never ever occured a theft of a civilian owned A class gun. And there has been exactly zero crimes commited with an A class gun. Still gun owners in Europe (by far the most law abiding citizens of all) are ranked as terrorits in the eyes of the few and powefull in the EU comission.

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Maximalist said:

I notice that this isn't updated much, however I think you all should know that the attacks were used as a mean for the European Comission to strenghten gun laws all over Europe. Its a very long story, but in short there is supposebly a number of people working within the EU to disarm civilians. Using this event as a trigger they tried to push a law tha prohibits EU citizen the right to own A clas guns and (Think AK47 & AR15) and limiting right to own semi automatic weapons. The draft was also very unclear and might affect anythin from a hunting rifle to a revolver depending on how it iterpered (Stupid word).
The worst part of it is that they claim this is a draft aimed at illegal guns and terrorist while the only ones that would get stung are legal gun owners.
In Europe with the problem isnt legal guns (0,23% of armed crimes are carried out with legal weapons, and those few cases its normaly stolen military items).

In my country sweden, there has never ever occured a theft of a civilian owned A class gun. And there has been exactly zero crimes commited with an A class gun. Still gun owners in Europe (by far the most law abiding citizens of all) are ranked as terrorits in the eyes of the few and powefull in the EU comission.

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