2 new .410 lever actions from Henry

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How does one reduce the capacity from 5 to 3 rounds, in order to comply with laws in those states that limit a shotgun to 3 rounds? I don't know how to plug that kind of magazine.

I love .410s, already have a pump and a double, and I cheer new gun models, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to get a ticket from a game warden.
 
How does one reduce the capacity from 5 to 3 rounds, in order to comply with laws in those states that limit a shotgun to 3 rounds? I don't know how to plug that kind of magazine.

I love .410s, already have a pump and a double, and I cheer new gun models, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to get a ticket from a game warden.

I can't say for sure because I've never taken one apart, but I do know that Henry sells magazine assemblies (the brass rod that holds the mag spring and follower) as an aftermarket part. I wonder if the best course of action would be to buy a second tube, disassemble it if possible, and insert a dowel of appropriate length. That way you could essentially have one magazine for range fun and another for hunting.

Maybe someone who has had a chance to really look one over could tell us if that's possible.

Edit: Extra mag tubes are actually fairly inexpensive. Less than $25, https://henrypride.com/collections/rifle-parts/products/inner-magazine-tubes
 
How does one reduce the capacity from 5 to 3 rounds, in order to comply with laws in those states that limit a shotgun to 3 rounds? I don't know how to plug that kind of magazine.

I love .410s, already have a pump and a double, and I cheer new gun models, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to get a ticket from a game warden.


I submitted the question to the company, and they replied very quickly. Their answer was that the magazine spring tube should be crimped by a gunsmith. So now we know.
 
Yeah but did you see the weight? Typical hefty Henry style. Well north of seven pounds empty could be cumbersome for a youth squirrel woods shotgun.
 
Those interested in hunting with a 410 Levergun should check out this Ohio hunter's page. He used a Model 94/410 about 10 years ago. It looks like his last 410 entries were about 2009 but he use to answer my emails on the topic. Nice guy.
http://mcb-homis.com/ and specifically http://mcb-homis.com/deer9410b/deer9410b.htm

PS He was an active poster on shotgun world in the small bore and hunting areas several years ago
 
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On the topic of "deer loads" for the .410, kbob I'll offer this. Brenneke offered a 3 in slug that the Ohio guy used and tested. See his site, really great site and info. They also now have it in 2 1/2 in. It seems to be the same load with a shorter hull and wad for that hull. I have used the 3in. The 410's are deer legal in Michigan and I used one as a teenager. I've since worked a deer check station and seen a number of deer brought in by 410 users. Some repeat year after year. They generally hunt like wood-bow hunters and wait for VERY close shots, just as you would with a low draw weight bow (like 25-45lb) I actively campaigned with Remington in the 70's to bring out 3in 410 slug ammo (and HP foster slugs in general). The HP slugs in ALL gauges are a mistake as they expand and fragment (turn into a literal hollow-center disk which then breaks up) Now I think the designs WITHOUT the HP are better penetrators and better for use on deer and black bear. This is very evident in the deer check station results. A better modern 410 load for deer might be the 3-5 ball 00/000/0 loads. Centurion makes a .40 cal ball load, I believe with 4 balls. The 410 with it's inline ball loading seems to hold tighter groups than most 12ga and your "killing power" might be considerably improved over a Foster 410 slug.
 
I know this thread is about Henry Lever .410 guns, but I just have a fascination with pump/slide action shotguns.

I can't think of anything better than a Winchester 42. I know that pristine specimens go for huge bucks, this one is well used and I would love to have it for a shooter, but I am short on bucks. I once used a borrowed Win 42 at an NSSA Nebraska State skeet shoot in 1970, shot 22 of 25 targets, and did not win. A rich kid with a Rem 1100 .410 got the win.

Below is not a bad deal for a shooter...

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630351548
 
my rem express 870 in 410 was 179.00 on close out at wally world several years ago and so was the express in 28 ga, so i bought both of them. best money i have spent for shotguns in years. eastbank.
 
They need to make a combo gun in the vein of the Savage 24.

That would entail 2 barrels, single shot each, and no repeat shots without opening the action. How would a manufacturer create something that would selectively load a .410 in one barrel and a rifle cartridge in the other barrel? If you have an idea, you had better patent it.

The only gun that comes to mind is the Civil War era LeMat pistol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver
 
The need to make a combo gun in the vein of the Savage 24.

Savage has the 42 if you want a single shot combo gun.



my rem express 870 in 410 was 179.00 on close out at wally world several years ago and so was the express in 28 ga, so i bought both of them. best money i have spent for shotguns in years. eastbank.


$179.00........... Daaaang! Which I could find that deal now for the 410.
 
my rem express 870 in 410 was 179.00 on close out at wally world several years ago and so was the express in 28 ga, so I bought both of them. Best money I have spent for shotguns in years. eastbank.

I like both of those gauges in an 870. It was a challenge to hit clays on the skeet range for me years ago with those. I had the privilege to shoot an 870 in 28 and a Win 42 in .410, courtesy of a couple of nice old guys way back in the late 60's who were generous enough to lend me their guns for one round of skeet, and they sort of laughed at my results (and they both stood behind me when I shot). Can you surmise that I flopped? Quite different than shooting 1-1/8 ounce 12 gauge target loads! They had a very good time critiquing me on my style and my shooting "poise", and I learned a lot from them. At least I had the chance to shoot those guns for free, and I will never forget the feel.

Eastbank, I hope you still have them. A good score, sir.
 
That would entail 2 barrels, single shot each, and no repeat shots without opening the action. How would a manufacturer create something that would selectively load a .410 in one barrel and a rifle cartridge in the other barrel? If you have an idea, you had better patent it.

The only gun that comes to mind is the Civil War era LeMat pistol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver
Savage made exactly what you describe for decades. (Model 24) They make a lower quality version of it to this very day. (Model 42). Chiappa makes a knock off version of it today. I believe Marbles made a version way way WAY back. (the Game Getter) For a time, the Air Force armed its aircrews with a survival version made by S.A. (M6 Scout) There isn't much of anything novel about the idea.

I'm sure Henry Arms would have to, or want to, make some changes to their version, and it would require an investment in tooling, but it's not an absurd idea. From a purely marketing standpoint, however, such a gun would compete, almost directly, with their own AR-7 type survival rifle, as well as this new shotgun. So, ina way, it would be like General Motors selling a Chevy Truck and a GMC truck, to compete against each other.
 
expat-A, yes i still have them, i got a mec 650 for the .410 and a mec 9000 for the 28ga. i can buy 20ga and 12ga pretty cheap for them at wally world 4.96 a box and don,t load for them often. but the smaller gages are close to double that and it pays to reload them. i hardly ever sale a remington. eastbank.
 

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The first gun I was allowed to hunt alone with was a .410. Full sized uncut Winchester Model 37 that beat the dickins out of even a large for his age nine year old. For greys and fox squirrel out in the old growth oaks it had to be 3 inch 6's or if I could not find those 7 1/2's. Fox Squirrel were not protected back then and they had pretty pelts. They showed up where the pines made inroads among the oak but unfortunately neither an over night soak in milk or Coca Cola made them very tasty and without a soak they were down right not worth the effort.

-kBob
 
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