Browning superposed

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I shot one in 1964, wanted one ever since. Great coincidence that the one I got is a '64.
 
I have never much cared for Citori's, but the couple of Superposed that I have picked up felt nice. Very pretty wood on that gun. Hope it works well for you many years down the road.
 
A friend at the club Sunday had a field grade older Citori. I shot one match with it. Fits better than the Super, I won the match, shot up the rest of the box backing up from 19 to 27 yards and crushed them all. Do I sell my '64? Nah, shoot email both. Still have hope for my homemade high rib. (And if it works, Addarib order to follow).
 
Wow what a fine looking gun!!! you did get a bargain!! I am jealous!! although I have not used mike Orlen from shotgun world, he has an excellent reputation, If you decide to have choke tubes installed. I would call him as he does not answer emails. he has excellent turn around times!

good luck,

Bull
 
I don't even bother looking at Superposed around here owing to the prices, seems to me you got a heckuva deal, congrats.
 
That is not a Citori , it is the original Browning Belgian Superposed. Somebody has fitted a new stock, maybe adjusted up the action and reblued it too.
 
ill be the one to say he paid about what that gun was worth. someone ruined any collector value in it when they cut the long trigger tang in half. also, it looks like the forearm wood fit is poor, as there is a significant gap where the forearm meets the receiver. cant see the top lever position, but from the fact that there is no bluing left on the trigger tang and the opening lever looks to have heavy wear, the gun appears that it was shot a lot. That may not be a big deal, Superposeds can go hundreds of thousands of rounds and still be functional.

if i had seen this before he bought, i would have told him to check all the ribs to make sure they weren't loose. i have seen loose ribs on 50s guns with much less wear than that one has, and i suspect this one might be the same way. unless its already happened and the rib was repaired, which would be the best case scenario he could hope for.

But, as i look closer at the picture, it looks like this is not a 50s gun, but a pre-war shotgun with the horseshoe front end and no cross-bolt on the forearm. if that is true, that makes the transgressions of replacing the wood and cutting the tang even more egregious. Though a pre-war vent rib would have a noticeable step up right after the breech, but i may not be able to see it from the pictures. OR.... that is a non-factory vent rib that was added later.

that picture he posted raises a lot of questions.
 
Looks like it is stocked for trap. If you like it you will find the addition of choke tubes greatly increases the versatility. If you have it done by someone reputable like Briley's keep the receipt and ask them to put the serial number on it. That should not decrease the value on any gun that is shot rather than being a collectible safe queen.
 
ill be the one to say he paid about what that gun was worth. someone ruined any collector value in it when they cut the long trigger tang in half. also, it looks like the forearm wood fit is poor, as there is a significant gap where the forearm meets the receiver. cant see the top lever position, but from the fact that there is no bluing left on the trigger tang and the opening lever looks to have heavy wear, the gun appears that it was shot a lot. That may not be a big deal, Superposeds can go hundreds of thousands of rounds and still be functional.

if i had seen this before he bought, i would have told him to check all the ribs to make sure they weren't loose. i have seen loose ribs on 50s guns with much less wear than that one has, and i suspect this one might be the same way. unless its already happened and the rib was repaired, which would be the best case scenario he could hope for.

But, as i look closer at the picture, it looks like this is not a 50s gun, but a pre-war shotgun with the horseshoe front end and no cross-bolt on the forearm. if that is true, that makes the transgressions of replacing the wood and cutting the tang even more egregious. Though a pre-war vent rib would have a noticeable step up right after the breech, but i may not be able to see it from the pictures. OR.... that is a non-factory vent rib that was added later.

that picture he posted raises a lot of questions.
I think you're the closest one that got it right so far. If it had been in pristine condition that gun probably would have gone for 16 or $1,700. Because of the stock I think that's why it was as cheap as it was. I checked the rib and it is fine.
 
That is a cut long tang. Wow, who would do that to a Browning Superposed. :cuss:

Being a long tang or, I should say, it used to be a long tang, at least its not a salt wood gun.
 
Another option for chokes and installation is Michael Orlen. http://users.dls.net/~rdouglas/MikeOrlen.pdf I had him install thin wall Sporting Clays screw-in chokes in my Auto 5 and they work beautifully, the gun shoots to POA and patterns very well. Also had him lengthen and polish the forcing cone while he had the barrel.

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I think you're the closest one that got it right so far. If it had been in pristine condition that gun probably would have gone for 16 or $1,700. Because of the stock I think that's why it was as cheap as it was. I checked the rib and it is fine.

can you tell me the serial number of the gun? that will go a long way in determining exactly what you have and what it used to be, and what it would go for in pristine condition. if thats a pre-war super with aftermarket vent rib added, thats a horse of another color.

also, do some real checking into the choke installation. there is some lore about the bores POI being shifted dramatically in some of the early cases of choke installations on superposed. i would just discuss that with Briley first, they may know how to remedy that after they had to buy some customer guns from them.
 
Beautiful gun for sure, and a fine shooting iron too. They just don't fit me without a ton of stock work, so I will likely never own one. I am missing out on a good gun. I always question the "value" of some classic guns, but this is one that seems to be worth the pricetag.
 
Just as an FYI on an issue that may or may not matter to you . . .

I have a couple of Citori shotguns (trap and skeet) and when steel shot really starting coming in, I contacted Browning about whether or not it was safe in my guns; Browning confirmed that it WAS fine in later production (IIRC, sometime in the '70s - I forget exactly what year), but is NOT recommended in older guns.

So using steel shot in your 1950's vintage Superposed would be ill advised.
 
Just as an FYI on an issue that may or may not matter to you . . .

I have a couple of Citori shotguns (trap and skeet) and when steel shot really starting coming in, I contacted Browning about whether or not it was safe in my guns; Browning confirmed that it WAS fine in later production (IIRC, sometime in the '70s - I forget exactly what year), but is NOT recommended in older guns.

So using steel shot in your 1950's vintage Superposed would be ill advised.

I've shot a couple thousand steel rounds through my 50's Superposed with no ill effect. Choke size might matter however. Mine's SK/SK.
 
i was offered a mint X frame(12ga size)20ga remington 1100 fixed imp cyl choke shotgun and i bought it, i looked around for a mod or full choked barrel and they were going for 175-225. i sent it to mike orlen for threaded choke tubes, the cost was 75.00 including return postage. it patterens as good as a new 870 rem in 20ga with factory choke tubes. eastbank.
 
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I had an A-5 solid rib 20 gauge magnum done just like this. has become my go to lead shot grouse gun.
I have other shotguns and had never been much of a semi-auto or pump guy because of the overall length and feel (just preferred O/U and SxS) but I love the way the 18.25" barrel transformed the Auto 5 into a quick-handling and deadly gun for me. I originally built it primarily for a HD gun but it's my favorite for a lot of shotgunning activities now.
 
If it is indeed a Belgian Superposed it is a steal but PLEASE don't adulterate it with screw in chokes. I wouldn't even ream it. If it is that old and has 30" barrels and those chokes it was a trap gun LEAVE IT ALONE AND CHERISH IT.
 
If it is indeed a Belgian Superposed it is a steal but PLEASE don't adulterate it with screw in chokes. I wouldn't even ream it. If it is that old and has 30" barrels and those chokes it was a trap gun LEAVE IT ALONE AND CHERISH IT.

Did you not read post #33?

OP is doing the correct thing and making it a good functional all around shooter.



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