1875 Remington Outlaw

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Howdy

I've always wanted one of those, but have never run into a used one.

Once, I missed one at a show by about five minutes. A guy was holding one and thinking about it. I stood nearby, hoping he would put it down. He didn't, he reached for his wallet.
 
Same here. I have wanted a nickel .357 Mag for years. I don't even think they make them any more.
 
Gordon

I have always wanted one too; just never have come across one at the local gun shops or at the gun shows.
 
Our local gun supply cut the price on the these and other "Cowboy" guns. The Cowboy Matches have faded away here. These revolvers in .45 Colt sold out fast.
 
I don't even think they make them any more.

Sure they do.

http://www.ubertireplicas.com/product/1875-army-outlaw/

The best ones were the ones made by Hartford Armory. The Italian replicas have compromised on the design of the cylinder pin, the Hartford Armory guns had the original design. I knew somebody who had a pair of them and they were sweet. Unfortunately, Hartford Armory went out of business a number of years ago.
 
Would be interested in owning one if it came my way as I have admired them since watching Henry Fonda wield one in "The Return of Frank James" when I was a kid.

I was never certain what the purpose of the webbing was. Maintain barrel alignment? Since I have not seen a reproduction model I wonder if the webbing is more than decoration meaning is it truly part of the frame and barrel assembly or just kind tacked on to look cool?
 
image.jpeg I have an Uberti for sale if interested. About 60 rounds through it. Bought it last year, shot one round SASS with it then found an amazing deal on a Schoefield replica for a matching pair. $325 shipped to your FFL. (Added: 45 LC)

The webbing is effectively non structural. It was maintained to signal that this is a Remington and because it makes for an elegant pistol
 
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Howdy

The web was there to maintain profile similar to the 1858 Remington percussion revolver. It was meant to look similar to the loading lever of the 1858 model.



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When Remington brought out the 1890 model, the web was eliminated.

http://www.ubertireplicas.com/product/1890-army-police/
 
Mine is in 44-40, a Uberti/Cimarron "1875 Outlaw". I chose the 5.5" barrel as more practical than a more authentic 7.5". Gun shoots great. The webbing is not attached to the frame except for a pin that determines alignment. Even if for a certain look, it has to be a factor when holstering a gun.
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View attachment 230540 I have an Uberti for sale if interested. About 60 rounds through it. Bought it last year, shot one round SASS with it then found an amazing deal on a Schofield replica for a matching pair. $325 shipped to your FFL.

The webbing is effectively non structural. It was maintained to signal that this is a Remington and because it makes for an elegant pistol

Caliber?
 
I personally think that under rib was popular for "buffaloing" (pistol whipping with the underside of barrel ) for those that used their fire arms in violent criminal and law enforcement. Hence the "outlaw" moniker. Thanks for putting up the pictures, my internet is sketchy due to storms and the phone is not cooperating putting up photobucket pictures here. Mine is an old Uberti but very cherry, It has the original style squashed tube front sight , which works very well, it is in .45 LC and has a wonderful trigger and is just super tight everywhere. I keep it on display in my man cave under plexiglass with an 1849 Wells Fargo Uberti and a real S&W .455 Triple Lock .
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Very nice, especially with the color case hardening on the frame and some decent grain pattern with the grips.
 
The Remington under barrel structure was referred to as a guide. It was intended to ease the holstering of the revolver into a military holster while mounted. There were complaints about the Colt hanging up on the leather. Remington was after Army contracts. :)
 
The Remington under barrel structure was referred to as a guide. It was intended to ease the holstering of the revolver into a military holster while mounted. There were complaints about the Colt hanging up on the leather. Remington was after Army contracts. :)

How would that have worked? The 45LC remained a proprietary cartridge of Colt and they were active litigants in opposing use of the cartridge in other manufacturers firearms. Yet the 1875 was chamber in 45 Cal, albeit for a very limited run. So was it the 45 Govt, ie the 45 Schofield that it was chambered in?
 
I would suggest you check out the contract litigations. I was offering an answer regarding the Remington under barrel structure. This is the answer that has been given to me by many gun collectors.:)
 
I would suggest you check out the contract litigations. I was offering an answer regarding the Remington under barrel structure. This is the answer that has been given to me by many gun collectors.:)


Sorry, not the loading lever web, Remington's hopes and dreams of an Army contract. There were allegedly some 1875s made in "45 Cal" but it seems unlikely they were made in 45 Colt given its patent protections and propensity to litigate. So, just wondering whether anyone knew what the 1875 "45 Cal" actually chambered?

I tend to take the "holster guide" story with a good deal of salt. The 1858 had a solid reputation. Making the 1878 with the same notable shape was just good marketing.
 
well the holster guide theory (and which it does I am sure like the Webley horizontal ones do ) does not explain the "Outlaw" name. I am sure you history buffs are familiar with the usual way old timey LEOs dealt with resisting arrest . The downward stroke of the bottom of the barrel of a held pistol was much used and feared. Surely that web thing would add to that use IMHO.
 
Who came up with the holster guides for Calvary revolvers first? Was it Webley or Remington? People not familiar with military holsters and riding a mount while armed have no idea about the revolver guides.

Using the revolver to pistol whip an adversary was called "Buffaloing." I always thought "Outlaw", was just a marketing name. There were models called, Marshals, Sheriffs, Rangers, Police models.
 
From what I have found, the name Outlaw has no historic roots other than Uberti/Cimarron/Taylor's choosing to call their reproduction the "Outlaw" model by association with Frank James's supposed favoring of this gun.

On the question of whether the 45 Colt chambering is authentic, I don't see where there would have been any rights granted to prevent other companies from selling guns chambered in a proprietary Colt round. However, references are to 45 caliber, not which cartridge in that caliber. Welcome input to clarify these questions.
 
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I thought that most of the Remington '75s chambered .44 Remington cartridges. That could be wrong.

The under barrel web could be useful as a guide for holstering. Perhaps it was also just for product differentiation so as to avoid patent infringement claims?
 
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