The Stove is On Fire!

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"Wife! The stove is on fire- Quick, put it out!" My wife gave me a strange look. "The stove is on fire. Move quickly before it spreads!" She stares, frozen on the couch as she tries to figure out what I'm telling her. Suddenly, comprehension dawns and jumps up off the couch and goes to the kitchen. "What do you do first? Hurry, do something!"

"I reach over and turn off the burners." She starts reaching for the knobs.

"Stop! The flames are too hot. You'll burn your arms!"

"Where is the baking soda?", she asks me.

"I don't know. I don't think we have any." She shakes her hands in frustration as panic starts to set in. Then, I see her training start to take over. She's the Head Crew Trainer at McDonald's.

"Where's the fire extinguisher?" She asks. "Where is the fire extinguisher?" Her eyes sweep the kitchen. Finally, they settle on the red canister that's been sitting on the counter for the past year and a half. She grabs it up and aims the nozzle at the stove top and grins. "How'd I do?" she asked. The fire was imaginary. It was a drill, something that took her completely by surprise and something we've never done before. Not bad, considering the circumstances. Not good enough, if it had been a real fire. We both have work to do. Before we started, I had no idea if the extinguisher was still on the counter, or if it had been moved.

On this site, we spend a lot of time discussing issues, tactics and gear for carrying a concealed weapon and for defending our homes. But, as a friend often brings up, rightfully so during these discussions, is the fact little time is spent discussing fire extinguishers. "How many proponents of CCW have fire extinguishers in their homes? In their vehicles?"

The reality is, the average American is far more likely to face loss of property, life and limb from fire than they are from random violence. I would bet, the general population is poorly equipped and trained to deal with sudden fires. A few years ago, my wife and I were victims of the all too typical kitchen fire when a pot of oil erupted into flames. Luckily, Fawn quickly found some baking powder and extinguished it, but not before there was a significant amount of smoke damage throughout the place, upstairs and downstairs. Looking at the damage later, it was chilling to realize that if Fawn hadn't acted as quickly and decisively as she did, the flames would have spread and burned the building to the ground. We now keep a fire extinguisher in our home.

What brought this up was stumbling across a video in which fire extinguishers are tested by a woman who is not a fire fighter or someone who is well trained or informed about their operation or use. She brings up points I hadn't thought about before.

If the security of our persons and our homes is important, it's even more important to ensure we have the means and the mindset to fight a fire. If you don't have a fire extinguisher, get one. Get at least two, in case the first one runs out. Take time to familiarize yourself with it's operation and how to use it effectively. Learn how to weigh and inspect your extinguishers. Train your children in what to do. If you can arrange it, actually fire off an extinguisher.

Get an extinguisher for your car. If your car catches fire, you may need the extinguisher to get out before getting trapped by the flames.

Here is the video. It raises some good points. I'm no expert on the subject. I ask that those with training and experience, please enlighten us.

Thanks

 
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There are two fire extinguishers in the house and one in my truck. While not exactly self defense, I'll leave this open.
 
We've always paid careful attention to fire prevention and mitigation in our homes and vehicles.
 
I will be strapping a fire extinguisher to my Gator as soon as the John Deere dealer replaces all the parts that burned up.
 
My wife and kids sat and stared at the grease fire one of the kids started in a pan. I grabbed the pan, set it on the linoleum (In retrospect, not the smartest thing I've ever done) and put a board across the top to smother the fire. It left a black ring on the floor that was still there when we moved out. She had started to fill a glass full of water to dump on it........:uhoh: I waited until her tirade over my defacing the floor was over to explain what her intended solution would have done.
 
Consider also getting the next size up from the smallest one you see.

I pulled over to suppress a small (10' round) grass fire on the roadside once. I was surprised at how little was in the small can, as I emptied it and began the work boot stomp dance on the remainder of burning material.
 
25 year volunteer firefighter here.

Big fire extinguishers in multiple locations; kitchen, bedroom hallway, garage.

Another thing....don't hesitate to call your local FD if you have any kind of a fire.

Fire extinguisher, axe, shovel, life jacket, rope, in the pickup.
 
It's true that we see, especially among our topic-oriented peers, extensive preparations for a narrow range of emergencies, and a lack of preparations for a wide range of others.

Before I entered law enforcement, I was with my local volunteer fire department. Back then, it was all about fire protection and first aid, but I was poorly prepared against criminal hazards.
 
"...The flames are too hot..." Not if you don't put your arms in said flames. Turning off the burner removes the source of heat. Fire cannot 'be' without it. No such thing as a 'cool' flame anyway. snicker.
"...My wife gave me a strange look...." That'd be the one that says, 'What's wrong with you? Put it out!"
"...a leaf blower is a good grass fire/woods fire tool..." Yep. When in doubt create a wind to spread the fire around. snicker.
 
"...The flames are too hot..." Not if you don't put your arms in said flames. Turning off the burner removes the source of heat. Fire cannot 'be' without it. No such thing as a 'cool' flame anyway. snicker.

Ha ha. You very clever fellow. Except for the part where you have to reach over the burners and thus, put your arms in said flames erupting from the stove top, to reach the knobs
 
After having spent an unpleasant hour watching a fellow motorcyclist's brand new, one day out the dealership Sportster burn to a bare frame on the side of the road, I carry extinguishers everywhere. Not just my car, bike, all around the house - I even have one in the Maxpedition Aggressor bag I use as my boat bag/ bug out bag.

For places where a full size approved fire extinguisher is to awkward/ Heavy, I have a few ' Nitro Strike ' extinguishers - basically large aerosol cans, which I consider enough to buy some time to get to a real extinguisher, and are better than trying to beat it out with a jacket. In fact, I recently used one to completely extinguish an under hood fire in the midtown tunnel.
 
a leaf blower is a good grass fire/woods fire tool..." Yep. When in doubt create a wind to spread the fire around. snicker.

It actually does work pretty well on grass fires. One simply uses it to blast the flames back in the direction of the area already burned over. Grass and brush fires spread fast in wind, in the direction the wind is blowing. A leaf blower can generate winds of over 100 miles per hour.

Of course, since this is a firearms forum, and a self-defense sub-forum, I'll steer it back to thread-topic by suggesting one be armed while doing this, since fire might frighten bears, wolves, or bad guys out of the woods. :D
 
Multiple extinguishers, checked often for pressure, training in military and civilian life enough to convince me fire fighters are the truest heroes of the world.
 
We have fire extinguishers and first aid kits in home and both cars. Had them for years. Oh, and I'm a member of the Red Cross to.

One learns that to fail to prepare is to prepare to fail (and Benjamin Franklin said.)

Deaf
 
"Wife! The stove is on fire- Quick, put it out!" My wife gave me a strange look. "The stove is on fire. Move quickly before it spreads!" She stares, frozen on the couch as she tries to figure out what I'm telling her. Suddenly, comprehension dawns and jumps up off the couch and goes to the kitchen. "What do you do first? Hurry, do something!"

"I reach over and turn off the burners." She starts reaching for the knobs.

"Stop! The flames are too hot. You'll burn your arms!"

"Where is the baking soda?", she asks me.

"I don't know. I don't think we have any." She shakes her hands in frustration as panic starts to set in. Then, I see her training start to take over. She's the Head Crew Trainer at McDonald's.

"Where's the fire extinguisher?" She asks. "Where is the fire extinguisher?" Her eyes sweep the kitchen. Finally, they settle on the red canister that's been sitting on the counter for the past year and a half. She grabs it up and aims the nozzle at the stove top and grins. "How'd I do?" she asked. The fire was imaginary. It was a drill, something that took her completely by surprise and something we've never done before. Not bad, considering the circumstances. Not good enough, if it had been a real fire. We both have work to do. Before we started, I had no idea if the extinguisher was still on the counter, or if it had been moved.

On this site, we spend a lot of time discussing issues, tactics and gear for carrying a concealed weapon and for defending our homes. But, as a friend often brings up, rightfully so during these discussions, is the fact little time is spent discussing fire extinguishers. "How many proponents of CCW have fire extinguishers in their homes? In their vehicles?"

The reality is, the average American is far more likely to face loss of property, life and limb from fire than they are from random violence. I would bet, the general population is poorly equipped and trained to deal with sudden fires. A few years ago, my wife and I were victims of the all too typical kitchen fire when a pot of oil erupted into flames. Luckily, Fawn quickly found some baking powder and extinguished it, but not before there was a significant amount of smoke damage throughout the place, upstairs and downstairs. Looking at the damage later, it was chilling to realize that if Fawn hadn't acted as quickly and decisively as she did, the flames would have spread and burned the building to the ground. We now keep a fire extinguisher in our home.

What brought this up was stumbling across a video in which fire extinguishers are tested by a woman who is not a fire fighter or someone who is well trained or informed about their operation or use. She brings up points I hadn't thought about before.

If the security of our persons and our homes is important, it's even more important to ensure we have the means and the mindset to fight a fire. If you don't have a fire extinguisher, get one. Get at least two, in case the first one runs out. Take time to familiarize yourself with it's operation and how to use it effectively. Learn how to weigh and inspect your extinguishers. Train your children in what to do. If you can arrange it, actually fire off an extinguisher.

Get an extinguisher for your car. If your car catches fire, you may need the extinguisher to get out before getting trapped by the flames.

Here is the video. It raises some good points. I'm no expert on the subject. I ask that those with training and experience, please enlighten us.

Thanks




Good read.

One in EVERY ROOM and 2 in kitchen and one in truck !!!.

They do make a pretty good 'tool' for S/D in the event that is all that is handy.
 
After having spent an unpleasant hour watching a fellow motorcyclist's brand new, one day out the dealership Sportster burn to a bare frame on the side of the road, I carry extinguishers everywhere.

Dad had a cranky, salty old friend who swore if his house caught on fire he would stand in the yard with a rifle and shoot anyone who tried to put it out. It was hyperbole, of course but I understood his point.

If it were my one-day old bike and you ran up with an extinguisher I won't swear I would shoot you, but I would for darned sure knock it out of your hands. It would be insured if it were mine, and I would far rather pony up the $100 comprehensive deductible and get a sparkling new bike than have a forever-suspect lemon that caught fire and needed $$$ to put it back together again.

Saving lives and saving property need to be evaluated with different goals.
 
If I tried this drill on my woman, I'd be sleeping on the couch for a week.
 
My wife and kids sat and stared at the grease fire one of the kids started in a pan. I grabbed the pan, set it on the linoleum (In retrospect, not the smartest thing I've ever done) and put a board across the top to smother the fire. It left a black ring on the floor that was still there when we moved out. She had started to fill a glass full of water to dump on it........:uhoh: I waited until her tirade over my defacing the floor was over to explain what her intended solution would have done.

Many years ago, one of my grandmothers was watching us while our parents had a "night out". She was a smoker and had dumped her ashtray in the trashcan in the kitchen. As I was sleeping in the upper bunk bed, I awoke before my brother, coughing violently. Gram was asleep in the living room and I woke her as I was unsure what to do (I was ~8). She grabbed a pan of water and threw it on the wood-paneled wall above the trashcan as it was also burning. I followed with a smaller pan and pitched it at the plastic can, also burning. Parents got home, arguments and recriminations followed, as did repaneling and extensive cleaning.
About 10 years later, we were having a family get-together at the grandparents house. A window fan in the attached garage started burning INSIDE the motor housing due to a lot of dust collected in this old fan. This same grandmother started to throw a pan of water on the fan while it was still running!! Fortunately, I stopped her in time and, as the fan was in the window behind the washer, it was hard to reach. I grabbed a hand towel and whipped it around the cord and yanked it out to cut the electricity. There was an old dry chemical extinguisher that. luckily, still worked and that quenched the fire. After all had settled down, I helped my grandfather remove the fan that was the only thing actually damaged. I learned a lot from those fires and from having been a Scout years before.
I now keep TWO "1-A:10-BC" in my kitchen. One is on the wall behind the washing machine alcove that also contains the dryer, water heater, and furnace (last 2 are "nat. gas") while the other is by the door going to the outside. Both have pressure gauges that I check frequently, esp. the one by the washer as it was made in 1986. Still good.
In the detached garage are three more extinguishers, two of which are the larger "2-A:40-BC" type because of the fuel and oils kept there. The smaller 1-A:10-BC is inside the enclosed workroom. They also have gauges but I don't check them as frequently as I don't go into the detached garage on a daily basis. They are also a LOT newer, less than 10 years old.

STAY SAFE!
 
I just replaced a number of ours as the cost to refill them exceeded the cost to replace them from Amazon. Crazy...
 
Dad got us on-track in the early/mid60s with the LaFrance(?) extinguishers; one in each car (attached to the transmission hump under the dash), one in the garage and several in the house.

That has been my pattern ever since.

I recall the one time that I almost had to use one ... it was ~45 years ago. Driving home from school on Rt250 and, up ahead, saw a car pulled over with steam or smoke billowing from the engine compartment and a frantic young lady.

I quickly stopped, grabbed the fire extinguisher, exited my vehicle and sprinted to hers ...

... broken radiator hose ... pretty, friendly young lady. :)
 
a leaf blower is a good grass fire/woods fire tool..." Yep. When in doubt create a wind to spread the fire
That's funny, except it doesn't work like that. Blow it towards the back burn, of course.

I know this to be fact. I've done it many times, but don't let that convince you.
 
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Anything small enough to be storable in the car isn't going to be big enough to put out a car fire.
 
A vehicle extinguisher isn't there to save the vehicle. It's there to save the occupants
 
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