Do CZ75s take any other brand magazine?

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By which I mean for example with double stack 9mm mags for the Sig pistols fit and function in a CZ 75.

I recently saw a 2011 post by a THR'er that commented that his Sig magazine set up in a KelTec Sub 2000 allowed to use his CZ magazines in his Sub 2000 and it got me wondering.

Also is there any difference in magazines built for original CZ75's and CZ 75B and later 9x19mm guns?

Yeah if I had any Sig 9x19mm Duble stacks sitting around I would try a CZ mag or if I had a Sig mag I would try it in a CZ75 but those are not options today.

Just curious.

Also if they do interchange makes me do a "WISHIDA" on a used Beretta mag Sub 2000 I passed up on that no one seemed to want ( and was stupid cheap).......changing it to SIG (or S&W) mag cost about $13 and having a CZ sub 2000 would have been neat.

Having another source of mags for the old CZ75 would be nice as well.

-kBob
 
Unfortunately Mecgars don't fit a Pre-B CZ 75.
CTD is the best source I've found for Pre-B mags.

I have a 1991 CZ-75 Pre-B, and new Mec-Gar magazines made for the 75B fit, and function fine in my gun. The two CZ mags that came with my 1996 made 75B do NOT fit in my Pre-B. While Mec Gar may make CZ mags, they're of slightly different spec it seems. Also not all new Mec Gars fit in Pre-B's. I got lucky I guess. My gun was bought NIB, so I know it hasn't been modified.
 
There are other CZ-75 clones, like the Witness, and the Sphinx, that MAY use identical magazines.

There are a few 3rd party manufacturers of CZ-75 magazines.
 
Thanks for the responses.

Perhaps I should clarify.....

I know that the KelTec P11 can use S&W 59 series magazines and that the Taurus 911 G2 can use some double stack Sigs.

This was more like what I was wanting info one as in do "Crunch-n-ticker-Vunder-Nien-Fitzandjammer" magazines inter change with Pre B or B and after CZ75s?

-kBob
 
The witness is made in small frame and Lage frame versions. Only the large frame has been imported for the last 15? years. Those mags will not work for sure. The baby eagle/jericho491 mags will fit as those are small frame tangfolio (tang makes the witness for eaa) I assume the canik 55 or other clones like the ar24 or sarsilmaz mags will interchange but I cannot confirm.

There are other CZ-75 clones, like the Witness, and the Sphinx, that MAY use identical magazines.

There are a few 3rd party manufacturers of CZ-75 magazines.
 
I've owned a bunch of CZs and pre-B CZs over the years, and speak from some experience.

The grip frame where the mag is inserted can be opened up in the older CZs, using a flat file, and they will then accept nearly all of the mags. It doesn't take much adjustment. A gunsmith can do it for you, or you can do it yourself. Some of the DYKEM coloring materials will show where the mags are "catching" and that area can be slightly reduced in the frame -- a gunsmith will certainly have some of that.. It shouldn't be expensive.

Almost any CZ factory 15-round mag seems to work, and you can also buy the proper mags directly from CZ (online) -- but that can be expensive. Finding mags that fit the pre-B CZ will be a challenge from other sources -- and I haven't seen them offered on CDNN for a long, long time.

Most of the older-15 rounders from any of the CZ-pattern guns fit, but some of the older ones had different followers that wouldn't always lock back the CZ slide with the last shot. The newer 16+ round mags all seem just a bit too big.. A mag dealer at a gun show offering used mags -- haven't seen one of those in recent years -- would probably have something that works -- and they can be tested for fit and lock-back at the gun showm.

Keep in mind, you don't NEED a lot of mags -- 2 or 3 are generally enough, if you're not shooting in competition.

I don't think I ever had a Mec-Gar-made 15-round mag that worked in one of my pre-Bs, but it may depend on when the pre-B was made. As CZ upgraded the early CZ-75 design and moved toward the B-design (the -B stands for "Firing Pin Block") they became more and more like the current guns,

Mec-Gar is now the primary supplier of Original Equipment magazines for CZ (and many other gun makers.) Good mags.

Note: after-market mags that work in most CZs won't necessarily work in a Sphinx (of the older design) -- as those guns are closer to the original CZ specs (of the pre-Bs) than newer model CZs with regard to magazines. I've had several Sphinxs, and after-market mags that fit in a CZ compact wouldn't always work in a Sphinx compact, even though they were similar designs. True factory mags would swap without problems. Finding "factory" Sphinx mags was like finding hen's teeth -- far easier said than done.

(Current Sphinx [SDP] mags are similar to CZ P07 mags, which are slightly different than standard CZ mags, but certain Canik mags can be made to work in both the P-07 and Sphinx SDP. I've done it, but don't remember which model it was... I'll try digging that out if anyone needs to know. It only matters if you can find that specific Canik mag on sale -- which is rare.)
 
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I have two current production MecGar 17 round CZ mags, one with a plus 2, that fit, feed, and function perfectly in my 90 vintage 75 pre B.
 
I have two current production MecGar 17 round CZ mags, one with a plus 2, that fit, feed, and function perfectly in my 90 vintage 75 pre B.

I'm guessing a transitional Pre-B model then. Because the earlier Pre-B's won't work with any of the Mec-Gar mags, but do work with SP-01 factory mags. I also have some Tanfoglio marked mags that have worked in my early Pre-B's.

I'll try the Sig CZ mag swap when I get home tomorrow from work.
 
I'm guessing a transitional Pre-B model then. Because the earlier Pre-B's won't work with any of the Mec-Gar mags, but do work with SP-01 factory mags. I also have some Tanfoglio marked mags that have worked in my early Pre-B's.

I'll try the Sig CZ mag swap when I get home tomorrow from work.

His is a 1990, and my Pre-B is a 1991, and neither are "transitionals" as they didn't start until 1992. Mine has the round trigger guard, spur hammer, no firing pin block and says "Made in Czechoslovakia" as does his. Nothing transitional about them, and they Mec-Gar mags work. It is hit, or miss though from what I have read.
 
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The one time I tried a SIG mag in a CZ, it fit, but the mag release notch wasn't right -- so it wouldn't lock in place. A different model might work, but SIG mags aren't cheaper than CZ mags, generally speaking.

(Most 9mm mags are very similar, given that form follows function...)
 
His is a 1990, and my Pre-B is a 1991, and neither are "transitionals" as they didn't start until 1992. Mine has the round trigger guard, spur hammer, no firing pin block and says "Made in Czechoslovakia" as does his. Nothing transitional about them, and they Mec-Gar mags work. It is hit, or miss though from what I have read.


Just a little more info. Mine is European non-import marked example that was bought by a soldier in the Rod and Gun club in Germany and brought back by him on a ATF form 6 Part II
 
I was told that for many years CZ made it a practice to build frames in lots, build slides in lots, and assemble working guns when some were needed for orders. They would be date-stamped at that time, serialized, etc. That may all be anecdotal and wrong, but it was something we heard on the original CZ forum, years ago. (I was one of the moderators, back then.) That being the case, it wouldn't be surprising if some of the guidelines we're talking about (traits and characteristics of specific models made during a giving period) might be a little askew.

CZ has always had a tendency to build and put odd-ball guns into the pipe-line. They did this with a variety of guns: full-size, compacts, semi-compact (i.e., full-size slides and compact frames, and vice versa), a couple of steel (as opposed to alloy) decocker model compacts, etc. I know they produced a small number of satin nickel CZ-97s, which was a very handsome gun. They made a few 85B compact for a while, too, There was the .40 compact that used the 40B slide and a slightly modified P-01 frame, They may still offer high-gloss blued 75Bs -- they are beauties. And then there was the CCCP-stamped 75Bs that looked like pre-Bs were unique (and often available at very low prices). If I could find one of those, and get rid of the hammer and sickle, I'd do it. The old style trigger guard on that retro model was much more attractive than the newer, squared-off trigger guard; it had the spur hammer and a different slide release lever.
 
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CZ apparently made what on Russian Defector called a "Monkey Model" of the Pre B. This was for sale in places where the high polish finish and such was not as important as "It go boom." The first CZ in the US I saw after I imported my 1980 in 1982 (on a form 6A as a returning service man) came in by way of a USAF load master that traded for it in Africa and some how managed to get it papered. It had issues such as a safety that sort of flopped about rather than clicking smartly on and off as well as not being as pretty. Mags interchanged though. I know that the first of the FIE guns would interchange magazines. The slide groups would also fit on either frame but I refused to allow parts of my gun to be fired with other's parts together as they were so few CZ75 in the US at the time. At the time I was offered enough for my CZ 75 (several times and places)to have bought five or six Glock when they first came out.......and thought that a poor deal.

-KBob
 
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