Luger Value

The long upper, which is the only one you've provided any pictures that show anything, is a 1916 DWM that appears to have been surplused out and sold commercially sometime before WWII. Or a 1920 faked to look like that. The "Germany" on side makes me wonder. That's about all I can tell you. It is not original to the frame it is on.

The one with the "artillery" sight has been sawn off and a rifle type front sight soldered on. I shot a gun like that many years ago. Heck, it may have been the same one, how many 7" "artillery" Lugers could there be?
Wonder what the odd upper with the tool tied on is for. Could it be the right upper for the "artillery?"
The "Germany" stamp means it was legitimately imported into an English speaking country.
Double date Lugers are a field all their own.
As the one skeptic said, they made over a million Lugers over 45 years and to hear a collector tell it, each and every one is a separate and distinct model.

Nothing to tell about the other gun.

If you could take more pics of the other gun, and the separate upper, particularly from the top, (that's where most of the pertinent information is) , it would help a lot. What kind of price is he offering them to you at?
Lugers are finicky eaters; I've found they prefer 115 gr. FMJ round nose only, and on the hotter side. Fiocchi is a good choice.

That's probably a good price, with the 3rd upper included. Still would like to see pics of the other pistol and upper's topsides.

I don't follow prices much, but that sounds pretty good for 2 1/2 Lugers in working condition.

I would go $2,500 on those. That is a correct Artillery Luger upper. Those guns would part out for a serious dollar. Russian pick ups are bringing $1,200.

Dog Soldier said:

That is a correct Artillery Luger upper

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'Fraid not.
An original P08 Lang "artillery" has the same barrel band ramp front sight as the standard gun, except a bit taller for the tangent rear sight.
This one has been cut off. It has no barrel band and appears substantially shorter than 200mm/7.87in.

Jim I did not say it was all original. I said, it had the original "upper". If you know Lugars you know to look at the groove on the top strap allowing for the 1917 DWM Artillery sight. These parts guns are bringing a quick $1,200 each in my market. They will part out for more.

Different dictionary. A barrel missing the forward inch is not correct. It may be original what with the sight clearance cut. Kind of like a sporterized rifle.

We need better pictures with all major part serial numbers. The "artillery" upper receiver has a six digit serial number and "Germany" stamp instead of familiar military 4 digit and letter. I no longer have the book to tell me what is going on there.

I own many Lugers. The Artillery is a favorite.

The horse is about dead. I am talking about the stripped upper receiver. Not the barrel. That rear sight is regulated to compensate for bullet drift as the sight is elevated. The sight alone will bring $300 bucks. I would sell those as parts on the web.
http://www.pooshka.com/a.php?aid=7510

As I said, the pictures do not show everything needed. If the odd upper matches the "artillery" lower, you have one good gun and some valuable parts.
If the short gun is matching, you have two good guns and valuable parts.
I don't do Internet Price Is Right and won't say more about dollar value than $2000 looks good.
I am sure Dog Soldier is more up on the minutae and resale than I am. $300 for a rear sight, wow.

These maybe VOPOS Russian police pistols. The Russians picked up tons of Lugers and put them together. The cost and rarity of original Lugers has caused the VOPOS parts gun to become a collector category.
All Luger parts dating back over 100 years are like gold. A Luger frame alone stripped over $500 bucks. The parts in one Luger is worth $1,000 dollars. A parts Luger worn and ugly goes for
$1,300.
My choice for a shooter is the U.S. Made Stainless Steel American Eagle. These are out of production. I shoot one of these rather than a vintage WWII pistol. They are excellent handguns.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/649165044

I have heard widely varying opinions on those stainless copies. Some like them, some don't. I'd be willing to give one a try.

I looked hard at a Mauser Parabellum 6" 9mm, German frontstrap, manageable price. But it just didn't FEEL like a Luger. The grips were slabsided and the '06 type grip safety took a gorilla grip to depress. I went back later with visions of repro grips and a grip safety delete, but it had sold.

I once yearned for the Mauser Parabellum Target mit bull barrel and adjustable sight seen at Classic Guns in Atlanta. But I was in town at a job fair because my position was at risk and I sure wasn't buying any guns.

I long ago owned a 1936 S/42 but sold it to a collector when the supply of Canadian surplus ammo ran out, it would not run on US commercial and I was not reloading at the time.

I am afraid neither of those guns is close to original or much worth arguing about. Yes, someone will probably pay big money for one or both, and will be happy until someone tells him what he has (or doesn't have!). The "Artillery" model likely isn't, and the lower gun (in the original picture) has had the barrel set back. Far from being worth a fortune, those Lugers are not only badly worn but have been the victims of a "rebuilder" who threw pieces of several guns together and then tried, in an amateurish way to make them match.

One giveaway is the "1920" gun with the "earlier" date newly stamped and looking much newer than the 1920 marking, which would be the later marking..

Jim

dgarvin1 said:

Here is the second upper.

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Standard commercial between the wars DWM, in nice shape. Even with what JimK said being true, 2K for both, plus the third upper is still worth it. The question then is what to do with them once you have them; do you keep the Artillery upper and the second DWM upper, and sell the other as yet unidentified, gun to recoup some of the cost? Sell the seaprate upper, too? Switch out the uppers and sell the Arillery one? (most collectors are not going to pay much for it, though. It's obvious it's been chopped.) What to do, what to do? I'd still like to see the top of the other pistol.

The Luger Navy 6" Adj. 2 position rear sight upper sells for $800 dollars. A Navy receiver complete with grip safety would be very expensive. The Navy Luger is very rare.
The uppers parted out will bring big dollars. The little side plates original sells for $60 bucks. The extractor $100 dollars etc. I paid $200 for a rear toggle and was glad to get it.
The many WWII and WWI pistols are becoming more expensive. The original parts are very valuable.

I guess parting out one that was already mismatched would make sense, money wise.
Kind of hurts to see a working gun dismantled, though.

Maybe Jim. But recovering a valuable gun that needs some parts is very rewarding. It is like a Kidney Transplant. New life.

I ain't no expert. Period. No expertise here. Just sharing...

Some (probably many) WWI guns were rebuilt for police use in 1920 and have that date stamped over the original date.
I just bought one (waaaayyyy better condition that the ones pictures above) for $800 plus $25 for a reproduction holster.
It came with one wooden base magazine and one modern steel magazine.
It shoots standard 115gn ammo just fine, but not 147gn. Haven't tried 124gn yet.
Offered in the same sale was a twin with more wear for $700 but I passed on it.
I should have bought it and sold it to you guys for 2x. Just kidding.