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Well, this is the rat snake I was looking at. I'll admit I'm no herpetologist.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tex...m=isch&q=texas+rat+snake&imgrc=2C3gKH1xBldCIM:

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I never want to kill a harmless snake as that. Looks like a bull or rat snake. Carry a pistol with rat shot and stop to make an id before using the 5000 lb weapon. I move snakes like these off the roadway.
 
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I never want to kill a harmless snake as that. Looks like a bull or rat snake. Carry a pistol with rat shot and stop to make an id before using the 5000 lb weapon. I move snakes like these off the roadway.
Didnt notice till I heard the crunch, I nornally do have a .38 with at least one little shotshell.
 
Understood didn't mean bad. I have done the same. Kinda hit me as yesterday I looked at a whip snake in ks on the road and didn't move it off and next time I drove by buzzards were there. Don't see them very often.
 
Well comparing the bull to the rat snake and comparing the carcass of the snake above,Im going to have to go with bullsnake, I am ashamed I have killed a non threatening creature accident or no.
 
I KNOW the important ones. There are only 4 here in Texas, cottonmouth, rattler (around here western diamondback), copperhead, and coral snake. We have mostly cottonmouths here for venomous snakes, but a few rattlers and copperheads. I'm sure there are a few coral snakes around, but I've yet to see one.

When I'm out back, I wear my snake boots. They paid for themselves once with a 3 ft rattler on my other place. There's BUNCHES of rattlers down there. :D With snakes, defense beats offense. You sometimes won't know it's there until it strikes. Snake boots are good insurance.
 
I KNOW the important ones. There are only 4 here in Texas, cottonmouth, rattler (around here western diamondback), copperhead, and coral snake. We have mostly cottonmouths here for venomous snakes, but a few rattlers and copperheads. I'm sure there are a few coral snakes around, but I've yet to see one.

When I'm out back, I wear my snake boots. They paid for themselves once with a 3 ft rattler on my other place. There's BUNCHES of rattlers down there. :D With snakes, defense beats offense. You sometimes won't know it's there until it strikes. Snake boots are good insurance.
Your exactly right, I know the other three by heart, I admit I do not have alot of experience with copperheads, thats why I initially assumes so when I saw it afterward, I thought to myself its too big to be a garden snake and it aint the other three.
 
Killed this snake on the road in the TX Hill Country it was about 2.5-3 feet , my mind went to copperhead but please help me out with a for sure answer.

Nice pattern on the skin, that'd make a nice insert for a holster or knife sheath.
 
We need a close up of the head. Most poisonous snakes in the U.S. are Pit Vipers the shape of the head and Pits near the eyes are heat sensors. The Coral is an exception.
 
I KNOW the important ones. There are only 4 here in Texas, cottonmouth, rattler (around here western diamondback), copperhead, and coral snake. We have mostly cottonmouths here for venomous snakes, but a few rattlers and copperheads. I'm sure there are a few coral snakes around, but I've yet to see one.

When I'm out back, I wear my snake boots. They paid for themselves once with a 3 ft rattler on my other place. There's BUNCHES of rattlers down there. :D With snakes, defense beats offense. You sometimes won't know it's there until it strikes. Snake boots are good insurance.



Actually,
There are only 4 types of poisonous snakes in the continental US.

Rattlesnakes, Copperheads, Cottonmouths, and Coral snakes.

Learn to recognize those 4 that live in your area.
Every thing else is non poisonous.
 
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A copperhead bit my 4 month old beagle last week in the running pen I use to train them in . My nephew was all around the snake , not seeing it and was luck he didn't get bit . He saw the puppy jump back and then saw the snake . The shotgun took care of the snake and the puppy was ok the next day . It bit her in the chest .
 
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We call that one a rat snake or a "good" snake. Non venomous, they get pretty long too. I had to pull one off a "sticky" trap yesterday.

This is what a copper head looks like.

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This one didn't get pulled off the sticky trap.
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