Gold Cup Match Need Help

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Good morning,

Hopefully you guys can help me make a fast decision.

There is a local private sale of a Colt Gold Cup Match available. Serial number is GCM17xxx and it is stainless steel. It shows wear, has target sight with green fiber optic front sight. Duck Bill grip safety. $750 is the lowest he will go and is a today price only, on hold for me until tonight. It has wrap around rubber grip.

1- is this a 70 or 80 series and does it matter?
2- is this a good price?

What would you do?

It will serve no specific use. Just another "quality" steel gun for my use.

Thank you in advance.
 
Buy it. That's a good price.

As to Series 80 or not, on one occasion with about a half dozen shooters, and 8 or 9 1911s of various vintages and configurations, no one could reliably call series 80 or not in a 'blind' test.
 
Dog Soldier thanks for sharing the good links. I am a fan of the Series 70 guns and from Dog Soldiers first link:
To tell your basic born-on date frame for your MKIV, look at the serial number. The prefix “70G” was used from 1970-1976, “G70” from 1976-1980, and “70B” from 1980-1983. You can call Colt Firearms Customer Service with the serial and they will provide you with the exact year. Older guns, naturally, are more collectible but the entire series at this point is considered vintage.
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Now I may be wrong on this but I don't believe Colt made a stainless Series 70 Gold Cup NM. One of mine has a 70N prefix and the gun is nickel plated so while looking stainless the gun is in fact nickel plate, my others are all also a 70N prefix serial number.
The going rates around here at the better shows have a clean, really nice Series 70 GCNM guns going out at around $1500 and the standard actual series 70 guns about $1,000. The guns I but I want them to be close to perfect, no dents, dings and blemishes and original box helps.

Ron
 
Well, I bought it. It is an 80 series Gold Cup Trophy. Stainless steel. For some reason it came with two spare barrels and an extra firing pin and spring, one mag, one spare recoil spring and cap and manual with plastic colt Box. Not a collectors dream gun. That's OK. I don't run a museum.

Before doing anything to the gun I'm going to lube it and run 50 rounds of factory ball ammo through it. If all checks out, then I'll try a new Beaver tail grip safety and try to get out the scratches.

I don't like wrap around grips so I will put on new grips.

If I can post a pic to an existing thread, I'll post one here, otherwise I'll start a new thread with pics.

Thank guys.
 

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It is not unusual for a Gold Cup target shooter to have an extra barrel and recoil spring. One set for service loads. One set 10# to 14# for wadcutter loads. One barrel slugged and cast bullets pored specifically for that barrel.
I have a Series 70 with a .22 Conversion set. The .22 Conversion is a Service Ace with the Williams piston. It is a "U" Numbered Service Ace 1938, one of 2,700 made for the U.S. Army.
 
I am jealous, Ive been hunting for a gold cup here in California for some time without luck, last one I saw was beat to hell and went for about double what you paid for yours :(
 
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I am jealous, Ive been hunting for a gold cup here in California for some time without luck, last one I saw was beat to hell and went for about double what you paid for yours :(
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Maybe being a CA resident you can help me out. I did find these commenst:
Ca has a handgun roster.
CA residents (non-LE) can buy new handguns from stores only if they are on roster.
Handguns purchased from out of state must be sent to FFL01 dealers. If the handgun is not on roster the dealer will not be able to release the handgun to buyer.
CA residents can buy any non-AW handgun via Private Party Transfer.
CA residents can also buy used consignment guns through stores even if they are off roster.
CA residents can buy Curio and Relic handguns thst are not on roster.
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I read their handgun roster and could not find a Colt 45 ACP pistol of any kind? Nothing related remotely to a Colt 1911 let alone a Colt Series 70 Gold Cup. So can I assume that living in or being a resident of CA you are not allowed to have a Colt Gold Cup because it is not on their list?

Ron
 
DC Plumber

Good to see your got that Gold Cup. From the way you described it initially I thought it might be a Trophy model with the fiber optic sight. Let us know how it does at the range.
 
IIRC there is a spacer you can get to convert a series 80 to series 70.

Good deal on the Gold Cup. Great gun.
 
Reloadron said:
Maybe being a CA resident you can help me out. I did find these commenst:


I read their handgun roster and could not find a Colt 45 ACP pistol of any kind? Nothing related remotely to a Colt 1911 let alone a Colt Series 70 Gold Cup. So can I assume that living in or being a resident of CA you are not allowed to have a Colt Gold Cup because it is not on their list?

Ron
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As a California resident we are not allowed to purchase / import any Colt period. There are Colts in the state from before but as you can expect they are sought after & expensive. :-( the PRK is not a good place if you like to shoot
 
simonp said:
As a California resident we are not allowed to purchase / import any Colt period. There are Colts in the state from before but as you can expect they are sought after & expensive. :-( the PRK is not a good place if you like to shoot
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Thanks for the clarification on how that works.

Ron
 
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