BK
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As a Hi Point owner, I'd say both. I bought mine used for less than a C-note. Often wish I had that money back, but whatever.
Get what you pay for?
As Dave said, "You pay for what you get".
Do you get what you pay for?
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Get what you pay for?
As Dave said, "You pay for what you get".
stevebla
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I like my 9mm carbine, fun accurate to a point. Keeping mine.
My bad! I don't know what I was typing. $315 is what I should have stated. (Can I blame the heat?
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RainDodger
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As I have learned in my decades - you almost always get what you pay for.
Mosin Bubba
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It's a cheap and cheerful plinker, and $240 is a good price. If you just want it for blasting away at paper and 2 liters, it will put a smile on your face. That smile will get bigger when you realize it only costs 2 bucks to fill up a 10 round mag.
Paid <100 for a c9, new on black friday. I knew going in it was a hi point, but it has run fine as long as you dont limp wrist it.
A year later I bought a 995 for a range carbine that was cheap to shoot, it has 500 or so rounds through it and also runs fine.
I could afford it, figure I could get at least half my money back for it if I did not like it, for now, the wife likes to shoot it and so does everyone else at the range when I take it, so, it is staying in the safe.
If what you want is a fun plinker, get one, it is a fun plinker.
The C9, is a decent truck/camper gun, and that is what I use it for. I keep it locked up in either, but if it got stolen, I would not cry much over it.
Both have been reliable, both shoot to point of aim give or take at 50 yards. Maybe it would be a good zombie gun
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A year later I bought a 995 for a range carbine that was cheap to shoot, it has 500 or so rounds through it and also runs fine.
I could afford it, figure I could get at least half my money back for it if I did not like it, for now, the wife likes to shoot it and so does everyone else at the range when I take it, so, it is staying in the safe.
If what you want is a fun plinker, get one, it is a fun plinker.
The C9, is a decent truck/camper gun, and that is what I use it for. I keep it locked up in either, but if it got stolen, I would not cry much over it.
Both have been reliable, both shoot to point of aim give or take at 50 yards. Maybe it would be a good zombie gun
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OilyPablo
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I have a HiPoint 4095. $240 out the door easy. WELL worth the money. One guy even in this very post said the carbines are "junk". Some people just hate on the carbines really are ignorant. They just want to show you their $700+ .40SW AR.........oh that's right, it was over $1000 and it doesn't exactly work correctly. All my dealings with HiPoint have been straight forward and simple. Would I own their pistols? No, but if someone else likes them, who am I to hate on such a thing.
Choctaw
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And when you ask them how many of the carbines they have owned they will say none, but I have a buddy who had one and he said...
Sav .250
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That question can be asked of any product.
CraigC
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Not always but usually. I don't believe anything should be judged only by its price tag but there is an undeniable correlation between price point and quality. There are also ALWAYS folks who see more value than there really is, take criticism of their firearm of choice as acute personal offense because they are also emotionally invested and rigorously defend their cheap guns to the end. An absurd form of reverse snobbery that one member characterized as "proletentiousness". Which is really just an extension of political correctness. Of course, if you are the perpetrator of such a horrendous social crime, your opinion is dismissed as snobbery because you do not own said cheap gun, even though everything you know from experience tells you that you do not need to own one to know that you do not want to own one. A wise man once said, "I do not have to lick a turd to know that I do not want to eat one". I do not have to own a HiPoint, Heritage, Henry, Jennings, etc., to know that I do not want to own one. Thirty plus years of buying, shooting and studying firearms has bestowed upon me enough sense to discern the difference between cheap and not cheap without having to own every single firearm known to man.
Choctaw
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And when you ask them how many of the carbines they have owned they will say none, but I have a buddy who had one and he said...
I know firearms well and carry very high quality weapons for a living because my family needs me to come home every day. I have also been a firearms instructor and armorer since 1992. I bought my first firearm 43 years ago and have owned many since. That being said, I have found the HP carbines reliable, accurate and just plain fun to shoot. I guess that is reverse snobbery? Oh well.
Choosing not to own a firearm because it doesn't appeal to you is common sense. To knock another firearm enthusiast for his/her choices is rude behavior.
CraigC
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As I said, I don't have to own a HiPoint to know they are cheap guns that I do not want to own.
No, not at all. "Reverse snobbery" would be looking down on something like the MPX and stating that your HiPoint was "just as good", when it clearly is not.
I agree but there is an important distinction between knocking a firearm enthusiast and critiquing an inanimate object. The problem is that you cannot critique a cheap gun without someone taking it personally.
bassjam
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I've said before but I'll mention it again, with a Hi Point you actually get MORE than what you pay for.
It'll do 90% of what other pistol caliber carbines will do, but at 50% of the cost. That's value, which should not be confused with cheap or low quality.
It's the same reason people buy Corvette's. Sure, you're stuck with GM's crappy interior, but you get 90% of the road performance of an exotic supercar at 50% of the cost.
It'll do 90% of what other pistol caliber carbines will do, but at 50% of the cost. That's value, which should not be confused with cheap or low quality.
It's the same reason people buy Corvette's. Sure, you're stuck with GM's crappy interior, but you get 90% of the road performance of an exotic supercar at 50% of the cost.
Its hard to critique anything these days without someone taking it personally.
So now i just call them dumb, big L, walk away......
Kidding of course, but sometimes i REALLY want to, especially when they make statements that are mostly personal opinion as if it were fact....so annoying......
I agree with what the guys have been saying, perhaps without saying it.
Youll get what you pay for with a hi-point. Its gonna go bang and youll likely hit what your aiming at. You wont get refinement, or a high magazine cap (stock).
If those negatives mater enough to you to consider more than once, you MIGHT actually consider them junk,or unappealing might be a better term.
Either way, as with most things, you have to consider your own uses and personal preference. Theres enough guns on the market that you shouldnt have to own one you dont really want to.
One thing ive noticed is resale on Hi-points is 75-80% low market value, if your willing to wait on them (Here atleast). I was offered more than my little guns worth by a couple guys just cause it looks cool, and is fun to shoot.
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.308 Norma
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Well at least no one ever posts personal opinions as facts on internet message boards.
CraigC
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That depends on the user's needs and expectations. Some folks are satisfied if they just go bang. Others are more demanding. I'll be called a snob for this but one of my primary deciding factors for any firearm is that it not be a cheap gun made of pot metal.
OilyPablo
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I understand and respect that. I can be accused of wearing both hats. Certain guns I demand the best alloys. The best fit. Etc. That's fine, I should pay for what I get. Hopefully! The pot metal slide and the odd grip on the pistols I just don't want. The carbines - what is pot metal and what fails on those? I had an out of battery.......event......with my .40SW carbine. No damage. For $240 it runs like a top and is respectfully accurate. It's my only .40SW long gun.
The reciever and breech block on the carbines are cast from a zinc type alloy. Thats generally what people mean when they say "pot metal".
They also rarely, if ever fail just because of how large Everything is. Hipoints are built to be tanks, and take into account the materials used in construction.
I honestly doubt youll ever hear of one of the carbines exploding unless severely miss used, with ridiculous class loads.
Before I decided that my pistol caliber carbine was collecting too much dust to justify keeping and I sold it to someone more interested than I, my hipoint did fail to go bang one time, during demonstration of how to load and use it, it was cocked with an empty chamber for a dry fire trigger test.....just went click. But every time loaded ammunition was in the mag, bang, bang, bang, bang!
I'm glad to hear it's being put to good use!^ and still is
OilyPablo
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Thanks Loon!!
BSA1
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Actually this is the reason to shoot 10,000 rounds through it.
Take it out, shoot the heck out of it until it breaks, then send it back to the company for repair.
When you get it back take it out, shoot the heck out of it until it breaks, then send it back to the company for repair.
When you get it back....
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