"Most" States "outlaw" .223 for hunting?

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For a good place to start, the last update on this was Jan 2014. (Not my list, just something easily found online, here. Feel to update, please.


Alabama- centerfire rifle or pistol using mushrooming ammo
Alaska- http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms
Alberta- .23 and up centerfire
Arizona- centerfire
Arkansas- http://www.agfc.com/hunting/pages/huntingregulationsdeer.aspx#Legal Hunting Equipment
California- centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns with min. 4" barrel
Colorado- .24 and up, 70grn or larger bullet/ minimum of 1000ft/lbs at 100 yards
Connecticut- .243 and up if legal in your area
Delaware- shotgun/muzzle loader
Florida- centerfire
Georgia- O.C.G.A. 27-3-4(5) .22 and up centerfire
Hawaii- Any rifle with at least 1200 ft/lbs of ME. This would start at around .223 I think
Idaho- Centerfire (cannot weigh more than 16 lbs?)
Illinois- Shotgun/ML/Pistol only
Indiana- http://www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/deer-regulations/
Iowa- .24 or larger centerfire only for antlerless season in part of the state.
Kansas- http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Hunting/Hunting-Regulations/Deer/Legal-Equipment
Louisiana- .22 and up centerfire
Maine- .22 magnum rimfire and up!
Manitoba- Centerfire, but it says .23 and below not recommended. Does not say illegal though.
Maryland- ME of at least 1200 ft/lbs
Mass- Shotgun/ML
Michigan- centerfire in certain areas
Minnesota- .220 and up centerfire
Mississippi- No restrictions that I could find
Missouri- centerfire
Montana- No restrictions
Nebraska- Rifles with 900 ft/lbs or more at 100 yards
Nevada- .22 centerfire and up
New Hampshire- centerfire
New Jersey- shotgun or muzzleloader
New Mexico- centerfire
New York- centerfire
North Carolina- No restrictions
North Dakota- .22-.49 centerfire
Nova Scotia- .23 and up
Ohio- Shotgun/ML
Oklahoma- centerfire with 55 grn or heavier bullet
Ontario- centerfire
Oregon- .22 centerfire and up
Pennsylvania- centerfire
Quebec- 6mm/.243 and up
Rhode Island- shotgun/ML
Saskatchewan- .24 and up
South Carolina- centerfire
South Dakota- rifles with 1,000 ft/lbs or more ME
Tennessee- centerfire
Texas- centerfire
Utah- centerfire
vermont- No restriction
Virginia- .23 centerfire and up
Washington- .24 centerfire and up
West Virginia- .25 rimfire and up and all centerfire
Wisconsin- .22 centerfire and up
Wyoming- .23 centerfire and up
 
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For a good place to start, the last update on this was Jan 2014. (Not my list, just something easily found online, here. Feel to update, please.


Alabama- centerfire rifle or pistol using mushrooming ammo
Alaska- http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms
Alberta- .23 and up centerfire
Arizona- centerfire
Arkansas- http://www.agfc.com/hunting/pages/huntingregulationsdeer.aspx#Legal Hunting Equipment
California- centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns with min. 4" barrel
Colorado- .24 and up, 70grn or larger bullet/ minimum of 1000ft/lbs at 100 yards
Connecticut- .243 and up if legal in your area
Delaware- shotgun/muzzle loader
Florida- centerfire
Georgia- O.C.G.A. 27-3-4(5) .22 and up centerfire
Hawaii- Any rifle with at least 1200 ft/lbs of ME. This would start at around .223 I think
Idaho- Centerfire (cannot weigh more than 16 lbs?)
Illinois- Shotgun/ML/Pistol only
Indiana- http://www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/deer-regulations/
Iowa- .24 or larger centerfire only for antlerless season in part of the state.
Kansas- http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Hunting/Hunting-Regulations/Deer/Legal-Equipment
Louisiana- .22 and up centerfire
Maine- .22 magnum rimfire and up!
Manitoba- Centerfire, but it says .23 and below not recommended. Does not say illegal though.
Maryland- ME of at least 1200 ft/lbs
Mass- Shotgun/ML
Michigan- centerfire in certain areas
Minnesota- .220 and up centerfire
Mississippi- No restrictions that I could find
Missouri- centerfire
Montana- No restrictions
Nebraska- Rifles with 900 ft/lbs or more at 100 yards
Nevada- .22 centerfire and up
New Hampshire- centerfire
New Jersey- shotgun or muzzleloader
New Mexico- centerfire
New York- centerfire
North Carolina- No restrictions
North Dakota- .22-.49 centerfire
Nova Scotia- .23 and up
Ohio- Shotgun/ML
Oklahoma- centerfire with 55 grn or heavier bullet
Ontario- centerfire
Oregon- .22 centerfire and up
Pennsylvania- centerfire
Quebec- 6mm/.243 and up
Rhode Island- shotgun/ML
Saskatchewan- .24 and up
South Carolina- centerfire
South Dakota- rifles with 1,000 ft/lbs or more ME
Tennessee- centerfire
Texas- centerfire
Utah- centerfire
vermont- No restriction
Virginia- .23 centerfire and up
Washington- .24 centerfire and up
West Virginia- .25 rimfire and up and all centerfire
Wisconsin- .22 centerfire and up
Wyoming- .23 centerfire and up
Nebraska, .22 center fire and up with at least 900 ft-lbs at 100 yds including .357 Mag and .44 Mag
WY .22 center fire at LEAST 2" coal iirc.
 
For a good place to start, the last update on this was Jan 2014. (Not my list, just something easily found online, here. Feel to update, please.


Alabama- centerfire rifle or pistol using mushrooming ammo
Alaska- http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms
Alberta- .23 and up centerfire
Arizona- centerfire
Arkansas- http://www.agfc.com/hunting/pages/huntingregulationsdeer.aspx#Legal Hunting Equipment
California- centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns with min. 4" barrel
Colorado- .24 and up, 70grn or larger bullet/ minimum of 1000ft/lbs at 100 yards
Connecticut- .243 and up if legal in your area
Delaware- shotgun/muzzle loader
Florida- centerfire
Georgia- O.C.G.A. 27-3-4(5) .22 and up centerfire
Hawaii- Any rifle with at least 1200 ft/lbs of ME. This would start at around .223 I think
Idaho- Centerfire (cannot weigh more than 16 lbs?)
Illinois- Shotgun/ML/Pistol only
Indiana- http://www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/deer-regulations/
Iowa- .24 or larger centerfire only for antlerless season in part of the state.
Kansas- http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Hunting/Hunting-Regulations/Deer/Legal-Equipment
Louisiana- .22 and up centerfire
Maine- .22 magnum rimfire and up!
Manitoba- Centerfire, but it says .23 and below not recommended. Does not say illegal though.
Maryland- ME of at least 1200 ft/lbs
Mass- Shotgun/ML
Michigan- centerfire in certain areas
Minnesota- .220 and up centerfire
Mississippi- No restrictions that I could find
Missouri- centerfire
Montana- No restrictions
Nebraska- Rifles with 900 ft/lbs or more at 100 yards
Nevada- .22 centerfire and up
New Hampshire- centerfire
New Jersey- shotgun or muzzleloader
New Mexico- centerfire
New York- centerfire
North Carolina- No restrictions
North Dakota- .22-.49 centerfire
Nova Scotia- .23 and up
Ohio- Shotgun/ML
Oklahoma- centerfire with 55 grn or heavier bullet
Ontario- centerfire
Oregon- .22 centerfire and up
Pennsylvania- centerfire
Quebec- 6mm/.243 and up
Rhode Island- shotgun/ML
Saskatchewan- .24 and up
South Carolina- centerfire
South Dakota- rifles with 1,000 ft/lbs or more ME
Tennessee- centerfire
Texas- centerfire
Utah- centerfire
vermont- No restriction
Virginia- .23 centerfire and up
Washington- .24 centerfire and up
West Virginia- .25 rimfire and up and all centerfire
Wisconsin- .22 centerfire and up
Wyoming- .23 centerfire and up
The information for Alabama is still accurate.
 
With some of these regulations, I'm wondering if a PS90 or FN Five-seveN would be legal to use, though bullet weight is on the light side.
 
For a good place to start, the last update on this was Jan 2014. (Not my list, just something easily found online, here. Feel to update, please.


Alabama- centerfire rifle or pistol using mushrooming ammo
Alaska- http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms
Alberta- .23 and up centerfire
Arizona- centerfire
Arkansas- http://www.agfc.com/hunting/pages/huntingregulationsdeer.aspx#Legal Hunting Equipment
California- centerfire rifles, centerfire handguns with min. 4" barrel
Colorado- .24 and up, 70grn or larger bullet/ minimum of 1000ft/lbs at 100 yards
Connecticut- .243 and up if legal in your area
Delaware- shotgun/muzzle loader
Florida- centerfire
Georgia- O.C.G.A. 27-3-4(5) .22 and up centerfire
Hawaii- Any rifle with at least 1200 ft/lbs of ME. This would start at around .223 I think
Idaho- Centerfire (cannot weigh more than 16 lbs?)
Illinois- Shotgun/ML/Pistol only
Indiana- http://www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/deer-regulations/
Iowa- .24 or larger centerfire only for antlerless season in part of the state.
Kansas- http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Hunting/Hunting-Regulations/Deer/Legal-Equipment
Louisiana- .22 and up centerfire
Maine- .22 magnum rimfire and up!
Manitoba- Centerfire, but it says .23 and below not recommended. Does not say illegal though.
Maryland- ME of at least 1200 ft/lbs
Mass- Shotgun/ML
Michigan- centerfire in certain areas
Minnesota- .220 and up centerfire
Mississippi- No restrictions that I could find
Missouri- centerfire
Montana- No restrictions
Nebraska- Rifles with 900 ft/lbs or more at 100 yards
Nevada- .22 centerfire and up
New Hampshire- centerfire
New Jersey- shotgun or muzzleloader
New Mexico- centerfire
New York- centerfire
North Carolina- No restrictions
North Dakota- .22-.49 centerfire
Nova Scotia- .23 and up
Ohio- Shotgun/ML
Oklahoma- centerfire with 55 grn or heavier bullet
Ontario- centerfire
Oregon- .22 centerfire and up
Pennsylvania- centerfire
Quebec- 6mm/.243 and up
Rhode Island- shotgun/ML
Saskatchewan- .24 and up
South Carolina- centerfire
South Dakota- rifles with 1,000 ft/lbs or more ME
Tennessee- centerfire
Texas- centerfire
Utah- centerfire
vermont- No restriction
Virginia- .23 centerfire and up
Washington- .24 centerfire and up
West Virginia- .25 rimfire and up and all centerfire
Wisconsin- .22 centerfire and up
Wyoming- .23 centerfire and up

I kinda want to find a way to produce a .230" diameter bullet and seat it into a necked up .223 case just to troll the states/provinces in bold.

I don't know why I'm that way. But, it's who I am and I've made peace with it.
 
With some of these regs, I'm wondering if the game wardens have to carry around chronographs and calipers and bullet pullers and scales/balances?
I kinda wondered that too. NY allowed allowed airguns for small game a couple years ago, but they put a MV limit on it. I found myself thinking, how the heck is an ECO gonna know what an airgun they find gets for MV. Not to mention that some pump-up guns can cross that MV barrier, and go from legal to illegal depending on how much you pump it up. Some of the regs are set up that way.
 
I kinda want to find a way to produce a .230" diameter bullet and seat it into a necked up .223 case just to troll the states/provinces in bold.

I don't know why I'm that way. But, it's who I am and I've made peace with it.
We've already corrected WY, idk about Virginia, but personally I wouldn't toy with Canadian regs just to troll a point.
The 16 pound limit on game rounds in Idaho is pretty cool. Now I need to find a way to launch a 15 lb. projectile at a mule deer.
I believe in Idaho, you toting 15 lb projectiles straight up and straight down and straight up again on top of your other gear would be worth watching! Please YouTube that! (I took the Idaho regs to mean not using a 16 lb weapon, not ammo, but either way hiking around with a 15 lb rifle OR ammo in mountain terrain would be a delight for the rest of us to observe)
 
The 16 pound limit on game rounds in Idaho is pretty cool. Now I need to find a way to launch a 15 lb. projectile at a mule deer.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Funny!:)
I'm figuring you know that "16 pound limit" is the weight of the rifle, not the round it fires.
I didn't know the hunting rifle weight limit in Idaho was 16 pounds, but I've known for a long time that the limit was way heavier than I want to lug around anyway.:)
 
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Funny!:)
I'm figuring you know that "16 pound limit" is the weight of the rifle, not the round it fires.
I didn't know the hunting rifle weight limit in Idaho was 16 pounds, but I've known for a long time that the limit was way heavier than I want to lug around anyway.:)

I figured. But I can't see why they'd put a weight limit on the rifle itself. As horsey pointed out, lugging such a beast up and down mountains would be a nightmare. Are they worried about heart failures?
 
Are they worried about heart failures?
Yeah, maybe.:) At my age, I sometimes think about heart failure when I'm lugging a rifle around that doesn't weigh half that much.:D
But I always figured the regulation was to thwart the use of those long range rifles mounted on tripods and chambered for rounds like .50 BMG. A practiced shooter with one of those things could sit on top of mountain in Idaho and shoot elk a mile away. And the thing is, there are plenty of mountains in Idaho that you can drive to the top of with a 4-wheel drive pickup-truck, let alone with an ATV of some kind. So, if it wasn't for that regulation, a shooter (not a hunter IMO) like that could haul a 20 pound, tripod-mounted .50 BMG rifle to the top of an Idaho mountain in the back of his Razor, set it and a spotting scope up, and just wait until a 6-point royal bull wandered out into a clearing a mile away.
 
Kinda understand the objections to legalizing the small-bores for elk. I mean, with a good shot, you could probably still take one, but still, a little insurance never hurt on something that big. But deer sized stuff is different. In my experience, it doesn't take much to kill critters in that class.
 
Here is the first paragraph from the WI DNR.

The use of certain caliber rifles for hunting deer will not be restricted by DNR rules, statewide,


starting on Nov. 1, 2013, in time for the 2013 9-day firearm deer season. While shotgun-only counties

will no longer exist by virtue of state law, local units of government may still restrict the use of rifles by

ordinance, subject to certain restrictions.

www.wisctowns.com/uploads/ckfiles/files/Statewide%20Rifle%20Memo%20v1%202.pdf
 
16 lbs...I'm thinkin' 105 Howitzer. :D

Well that'll sure save time on field dressing and butchering whatever meat is left.

I've seen YouTube videos of people hunting deer and wild boar with a Barrett M82 and there's just a fat hole on the other side of the animal. No idea how much meat is left, but if you really need to take an animal down fast,
.50BMG does it in spades.
 
I kinda wondered that too. NY allowed allowed airguns for small game a couple years ago, but they put a MV limit on it. I found myself thinking, how the heck is an ECO gonna know what an airgun they find gets for MV. Not to mention that some pump-up guns can cross that MV barrier, and go from legal to illegal depending on how much you pump it up. Some of the regs are set up that way.
I hunt small game with an air rifle on Long Island NY. The ECO has a computer in their vehicle, they simply look up the make and model of your air rifle and get the specs. In NY you must have a minimum MV of 600 fps
 
I hunt small game with an air rifle on Long Island NY. The ECO has a computer in their vehicle, they simply look up the make and model of your air rifle and get the specs. In NY you must have a minimum MV of 600 fps
Hmm... Didn't know that. Knew about the 600fps thing, but didn't know they looked them up. Thanks.
 
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I killed quite a few squirrels with my old pump up Benjamin .22 caliber air rifle I got for Christmas when I was 7 years old. That gun still worked when I got my first chronograph in the mid 80s and I checked it. It fired 400 fps. Of course, it was already nearly 30 years old at the time. But, I'm guessing if I was in NY and got caught, I'd be doing time in Sing Sing today. :D
 
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