Alte Schule
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My son is 43 and a LEO for 20 plus years. He has always referred to a magazine as a "clip". My attempts to correct him over the years have always been met with a shoulder shrug. Sometimes I think he does it just to aggravate me.
460 Shooter wrote:
However, I react very poorly when someone touches me without warning also. I get instantly angry.
herr walther wrote:
An open handed slug to his shoulder got him back and a statement of "Touch me again and I put you on your a**" let me finish my range therapy in peace.
Reno 380 wrote:
I can not believe how some people can do something so dumb, and never realize how close to death they were.
Didn't they teach you about de-escalating a conflict when you got your CHL?
Reno 380 wrote:
I guess the RM figured this was self explanitary [sic] that a handgun is not and should never be used as a hammer.
Well, what is self-evident to both of us was obviously not self-evident to the man I will refer to as the "carpenter" since he was using the slide to "hammer" his round into the chamber.
And my point was that simply throwing him out, and - at least as far as the RM's announcement was concerned, voiding his membership - would simply make the "carpenter" defensive and would thus not: 1) allow him to understand what he did wrong - and why it was not only wrong, but dangerous, 2) would not allow other members who didn't see the pistol used as an extemporized hammer know why someone was ejected, 3) it deprived the club of the "carpenter's" monthly dues, and 4) if - as may well have happened - the "carpenter" was ultimately allowed back in, the authority of the RM was undermined.
As I said before, the RM had to act and his actions had to be immediate and forceful. But, after the RM had control of the weapon, the time for forceful action was over and the time for education, instruction, and "repentance" on the part of the "carpenter" had begun.
Though too bad we will never hear about his next adventure at a gun range. That should be interesting...
I'm not so sure...if someone dies in his next "adventure", the antis will parade it all over.
I think the RM was trying to get the idiot off the property before he hurt himself or someone else.
It's not the RM's job to teach this fool gun safety when lives are in danger.
As a collector, mistreatment of a weapon like this makes me cringe. Of course the personal safety aspect is more important, but this is how guns go from "excellent" condition to "fair" condition.
The issue is that kicking the person out doesn't eliminate the problem. It just makes it someone else's problem. But Apachedriver is right, who knows. Maybe he got wise about it and was beyond salvation.
Am I the only one who finds your description of events very confusing?
What kind of rifle has a slide?
Assuming that you probably meant "bolt", or that their is some kind of rifle that actually has a slide, how is it that the buttstock didn't hit the floor before the "slide" did when he was hammering it against the concrete? What kind of rifle has a "slide" that extends further to the rear than the buttstock?
I can not believe how some people can do something so dumb, and never realize how close to death they were.
In actuality, we don't know why the RM acted as he did with this particular customer. For all we know, the customer could easily have been a repeat offender with ignorance as his weapon. The powers that be may have already decided this was the last opportunity for the customer. So, who knows? All we know really is that the OP took proper actions upon encountering a dangerous situation at the range.
All this was invented and approved by professionals. Yet in the 22 years of service I performed, it was rare, and both being supervised and acting on the firing line I was never instructed nor needed to put my hands on anyone for a safety violation, either. We put our hands on the weapon, only.