Either I'm an idiot, or they are (sorry, not a poll)

Col. Harrumph · Jul 19, 2017

Just received a new Vortex today (yay!), and here's what they say about ranging:

Am I completely out to sea, or doesn't the image show a target subtending about 2 MOA, not 8?

eastbank · Jul 19, 2017

i,m a idiot, i use a lica range finder and use the click system on my remington 700P in 300win mag with a leupold 4.5x14 SF 30mm tube and CDS turret. 1/4" clicks at a 100 yards = 1/2" at 200 yards, 3/4" at 300 yards, 1" at 400 yards, 1-1/4" at 500 yards, you can run it out to 1000 yards where a 1/4" click would= 2-1/2" movement. a simple system for a simple man, ME. eastbank.

MCMXI · Jul 20, 2017

Am I completely out to sea, or doesn't the image show a target subtending about 2 MOA, not 8?

You have a point but I wonder if that's a MIL reticle. 8 MOA is 2.33 MIL if my math is correct.

Varminterror · Jul 20, 2017

I'm with @MCMXI, I'm betting the image originated as a milling demo, then they came out with this "MOA'ing" reticle and forgot to scale the target size in the reticle when they updated the manual materials.

Besides, the manual isn't teaching you how to read target size, it's providing you with the appropriate formula. Cut the picture out altogether and there's nothing wrong at all with the math they proposed.

taliv · Jul 20, 2017

heh, they lost me on the first sentence

cdb1 · Jul 20, 2017

Varminterror said:
I'm with @MCMXI, I'm betting the image originated as a milling demo, then they came out with this "MOA'ing" reticle and forgot to scale the target size in the reticle when they updated the manual materials.

Besides, the manual isn't teaching you how to read target size, it's providing you with the appropriate formula. Cut the picture out altogether and there's nothing wrong at all with the math they proposed.

If you don't quit making so much sense I'm going to have to quit reading your posts.

Klint Beastwood · Jul 20, 2017

eastbank said:
i,m a idiot, i use a lica range finder and use the click system on my remington 700P in 300win mag with a leupold 4.5x14 SF 30mm tube and CDS turret. 1/4" clicks at a 100 yards = 1/2" at 200 yards, 3/4" at 300 yards, 1" at 400 yards, 1-1/4" at 500 yards, you can run it out to 1000 yards where a 1/4" click would= 2-1/2" movement. a simple system for a simple man, ME. eastbank.

I was going to ask what the click system was till i looked again your fractions and thought them as decimals and realized you were just talking about how you like using MOA as your preference of angular measurement for drop/turrest/etc.

eastbank · Jul 20, 2017

for me it works very well, a good range finder is a must. eastbank.

climbnjump · Jul 20, 2017

Col. Harrumph said:
Just received a new Vortex today (yay!), and here's what they say about ranging:
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Am I completely out to sea, or doesn't the image show a target subtending about 2 MOA, not 8?

Yeah, it actually shows a target centered at 8 MOA, not "sized" at 8 MOA.

If you want a corrected version, here is an image from a different scope manual...

Col. Harrumph · Jul 21, 2017

OK, thanks to all. It didn't occur to me that the illustration probably is a hold-over from a mil-dot manual. My argumentative if feeble mind is, at last, at rest.

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