Typical or Atypical?

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So, I've kicked around the idea of having the buck I shot last November scored just out of curiosity. I'm hoping it would score a 130 or so just if I had to guess. However, I'm curious as to if you would say this is a typical or atypical rack? I'm leaning toward atypical because of the way the one side bifurcates and doesn't seem to have a true main beam, but I could be wrong? What do you guys think??

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This is the side I'm curious about being atypical. It just looks really strange to me.

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The left antler is definitely a typical 5-point with a 'sticker' off one point. The right antler is a 4 point with a sticker. If scored as a typical, you will lose the length of the 2 stickers plus the length of one point on the left side plus any differences in length between right and left. It will be scored as a typical 8 point with deductions.

There is a rule or formula that decides whether there enough inches of atypical points to classify it as non-typical.

I've always thought that B&C scoring was bogus since it 'cheated' the deer of what it had grown. We always scored our bucks as if there were no deductions (gross) and I think that is the proper way.
 
Looks like it has mule deer blood in it.
If you score it as typical there would be a lot of deductions.
Hard to tell for sure from a photo but I think it will make 130 easily.
 
The left antler is definitely a typical 5-point with a 'sticker' off one point. The right antler is a 4 point with a sticker. If scored as a typical, you will lose the length of the 2 stickers plus the length of one point on the left side plus any differences in length between right and left. It will be scored as a typical 8 point with deductions.

There is a rule or formula that decides whether there enough inches of atypical points to classify it as non-typical.

I've always thought that B&C scoring was bogus since it 'cheated' the deer of what it had grown. We always scored our bucks as if there were no deductions (gross) and I think that is the proper way.
Same with most guys here. If he grew it, it counts.
 
Looks like it has mule deer blood in it.
If you score it as typical there would be a lot of deductions.
Hard to tell for sure from a photo but I think it will make 130 easily.

I thought it had mule deer blood too, but the more I looked at him the less I thought that. He doesn't have the ears or the coloration in his face that most mule deer seem to have.


This is from November if you haven't already seen it lol
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I was thinking mule tail but looking at the body just thinking it's a bit of a freak. Really cool buck BTW!
 
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I thought it had mule deer blood too, but the more I looked at him the less I thought that. He doesn't have the ears or the coloration in his face that most mule deer seem to have.


This is from November if you haven't already seen it lol
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If I haven't see it! You're the best ad man Jerry's gun shop ever had!
 
I was thinking mule tail but looking at the body just thinking it's a bit if a freak. Really cool buck BTW!
Thank you sir! His back right hoof was messed up too....he was a bit of an oddball. Hangin' out with a tiny spike when I shot him too. Not sparring, just hangin' out.

If I haven't see it! You're the best ad man Jerry's gun shop ever had!

Ha, it's a pretty cool picture! I actually have it as my background on my Mac. I kind of owe him some advertisement since the owner takes care of me. That shop is newly remodeled and gorgeous inside. Not like any other gun shop I've ever been to.
 
I would put him about 130 gross. Hard to tell without putting my hands on him. Truth be told, it doesn't matter what he scores. He's not going to score high in any record books. He's just a damn cool buck that you should be proud of. But, if you score him, score him for his gross. He grew it. He earned it.
 
I would put him about 130 gross. Hard to tell without putting my hands on him. Truth be told, it doesn't matter what he scores. He's not going to score high in any record books. He's just a damn cool buck that you should be proud of. But, if you score him, score him for his gross. He grew it. He earned it.

Oh I totally agree with you on the record books comment. The only reason I ask is to kind of get a physical representation on what a trophy buck MIGHT look like in person, just in case. And I'm very proud of him! I mean I don't think a whole hell of a lot of folks can say they took an 11 pt buck as their very first large game animal ever. It was certainly a special moment for me and I'm glad I got to experience it all alone. Something I'll never forget! Part of this post is because I'm still learning and am looking for more experienced hunter's/outdoorsmen's opinion on the classification of this particular deer.
 
That's a really good buck. I think it's just an old whitetail because bucks with antlers like that are common all over Oklahoma. The ears and brisket shape are pure whitetail. More interesting than the antlers is the cape and I hope you saved it just in case you want to mount that deer or use it for a different deer next year. I can also tell that it was probably taken in the October because of the short hair and green grass. Attached is a picture of an Oklahoma mule deer I just put together. Your buck is definitely an old whitetail.
 

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I too think here may be Mulie in him. I believe the only real way to determine if it's a cross is by DNA and not by any outward appearances. I was under the impression that at one time B&C was even considering a separate category for the whitetail/muley crosses and in some cases demands a DNA test to prove what species the animal is. You say one rear foot was messed up also, and sometimes having other physical ailments messes up a buck's rack. Either way it's a nice buck and the score relatively unimportant.
 
That's a really good buck. I think it's just an old whitetail because bucks with antlers like that are common all over Oklahoma. The ears and brisket shape are pure whitetail. More interesting than the antlers is the cape and I hope you saved it just in case you want to mount that deer or use it for a different deer next year. I can also tell that it was probably taken in the October because of the short hair and green grass. Attached is a picture of an Oklahoma mule deer I just put together. Your buck is definitely an old whitetail.

Thank you sir. Unfortunately I did not save the cape as I donated that deer to needy families in my county. Hindsight is 20/20 though! I wish I would have but that was my first ever deer and I didn't know better. Hopefully this coming season I'll get the buck I SHOULD have waited on.
And it was actually shot in November. The 25th if I remember correctly. Oklahoma had a mild winter which allowed a lot of the foliage to stay green longer than usual.
 
That doesn't matter at all. Shoot another buck or doe this year, and you can use that cape.

I know that now lol. I donated the entire deer before I was told that I "should have kept the cape, even if it's for a different deer". I know now to do that for next time!
 
When you posted the pictures right after you killed it,I said it looked like it had mule deer in it,but a couple month ago I ran into a friend,and he showed me pictures of one he killed at his Dads place,not a mile from my place ,and it had the same kind of fork in the rack as the one you killed..I live in West Virginia,and we are not even close to mule deer territory..Either way you got a nice buck.
 
I didn't feel like starting a new thread for this question, so I'll just post it up here....How old do you guys think this deer looks from this crappy grainy trail cam still shot?
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The lighter portions in the shape of a V above his head ARE antlers, though I'm guessing it's probably a 6 point at best. It's hard to tell from the crummy night video. I think that maybe he will get a pass this season in hopes that I can bulk him up for the fall of 2018? I can't really say that with certainty though, since this video is literally 2 seconds of him walking out of frame. I set up a feeder this morning right where I've seen them walking and grazing and hope I can draw some more of them in.
 
Please get real. No one could make an accurate guess from that blurry photo.

Wow, no need to be rude about it. If you don't care to make a guess there isn't any reason to even comment. I was just asking if anybody cares to take a guess based upon the girth of the neck and body shape/size. But thanks for your input.
 
B&C be damned. That is a great deer whatever the score sheet states.

I get them measured...whatever the total IS....that's what I call them.
 
That's a nice deer that you shot last year, whatever the measurement. Congratulations. :thumbup:

Thank you! I'm hoping to take a larger one this coming season. I saw him last year but he was chasing a doe and had no interest in stopping to look at me, even for a second. He ran to my right about 30-45 yards and was on her butt....Hope he's gotten a year larger and survived last season!
 
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