huntsman
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I've had my LCP slip out of the pocket and hit the floor, mostly holstered but once it slid out the holster and hit the floor from about 3' and nothing happened.
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Because in those conditions the user is still in control of the pistol when it goes off. A drop happens when you lose control.
Now it's just me but I won't conceal carry a safety-less striker fired pistol anymore due to what you cite above. If a user doesn't need to regularly unholster and reholster the weapon then that will limit the risk.
Zerodefect
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The Sig fandom is strong here. Get your pistol fixed before it shoots someone, or don't carry it.
Reholstering striker fired pistol problems is user error. Don't pull the trigger, and the pistol won't shoot. That's a much different, and completely unrelated problem, that's been B'd about every bit as much as this. And the fact that it exists, STILL doesn't let Sig or Canik off the hook for releasing pistols that aren't drop safe.
Reholstering striker fired pistol problems is user error. Don't pull the trigger, and the pistol won't shoot. That's a much different, and completely unrelated problem, that's been B'd about every bit as much as this. And the fact that it exists, STILL doesn't let Sig or Canik off the hook for releasing pistols that aren't drop safe.
GunnyUSMC
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I thought the topic was about, have you ever dropped a handgun, not about what guns is drop safe. But I guess we have members that are on Sigs payroll , just like the ones that are on the Colt payroll.
I will wait till I start getting my check in the mail before I ever become a Fan Boy for anyone.
I will wait till I start getting my check in the mail before I ever become a Fan Boy for anyone.
Zerodefect
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It is a pretty big deal. No surprise the topic bleeds over.
And Sig and Canik are addressing it, as best they can. It's not like they sent out a silly bulletin that says "stop juggling". Plenty of other companies have.
And Sig and Canik are addressing it, as best they can. It's not like they sent out a silly bulletin that says "stop juggling". Plenty of other companies have.
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Dropped my G27 doing a mag change @ IDPA match. Was match DQed. Stuck around and helped RO.
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A couple of small points:
Colt and the U.S. military were aware that if dropped muzzle down 1911s could unintentionally fire. Colt and Browning had shortened the firing pin and strengthened the firing pin spring to prevent this. It did not always work particularly if the spring was weak and/or dirty. Weak firing pin springs were not always replaced in the field and filthy firing pin channels were not uncommon. It was rare so the military did not much about it in practice.
During both world wars there were complaints about this.
There was more concern about this due to UDs in the civilian world. How many no one kept records of, including Colt (that have been made public). Colt did introduce in the Swartz safety in the 1930s to prevent the issue at all.
No branch of the U.S. military was interested in the Swartz safety and none internationally. Colt dropped it intirely during the war and never went back to it.
Colt did introduce the Series 80 safety after threats of lawsuits and demands from Police depts.
In the 1990s it became common for experienced civilian shooters to place extra power firing pin safeties in their 1911s and light weight firing pins to overcome the issue of being likely to fire if dropped muzzle down. Some time in the last decade or two Colt began doing this on all their new non series 80 pistols. Others makers do it as well.
For over a century the U.S. military made no issue of this, the incidents being rare. But they happened.
The dropped S&W wheelgun on the ship deck. The Navy ordered S&W to make the upgrade. The Navy also used Colt revolvers and 1911s. Colt already had a block (as I recall a block) in their wheelguns. No incident was recorded of a 1911 dropped on a deck that injured anyone that the public knew of. So either S&W made the upgrade or they lost the contract. A bit less than voluntary. S&W did repair the guns the Navy had. But not for anyone else. There was no recall. S&W placed it in theirguns from then on.
Gunsmiths used to remove that hammer block if customers asked for it. Many did as the rumor went around that it would cause problems and mess with a smooth trigger pull..
I've dropped several handguns over the years.
Dropped my Rock Island 3.5" about a week ago when going to put it in my holster one morning (little scorpion crawled on it and got me when I took it out of the safe)
The most impressive one was when I was in a high speed accident. My 9mm H&k USPC was ripped from me and tossed about 100' down the freeway. Not dropped per say but she did get some scuffs and dings while trying as hard as possible to fly.
Dropped my Rock Island 3.5" about a week ago when going to put it in my holster one morning (little scorpion crawled on it and got me when I took it out of the safe)
The most impressive one was when I was in a high speed accident. My 9mm H&k USPC was ripped from me and tossed about 100' down the freeway. Not dropped per say but she did get some scuffs and dings while trying as hard as possible to fly.
I have had them rubbed out of hip holsters after losing footing on a steep slope, come out while jumping a stream (my bad it wasn't strapped in), fall out of a poorly designed shoulder holster busting through brush, and just plain old dropped them while handling (not often, but I have done it). I don't consider myself accident prone, but stuff happens if you are out and about enough.
MrRustyII
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I dropped my Glock G23/g4, the first time I took it to the gravel pit to shoot it. I don't remember what led up to me dropping it (I think it slipped out of my hands as I lifted it out of the case), but I do remember picking it out of the sand, blowing it off and taking the bore brush to the barrel. I was by my self, so nobody knows it happened, except for me, so don't say anything, to anyone.
Ironically, I just dropped my Les Baer PII yesterday morning. I reacted quick enough to cradle it in both hands just before it hit the ground - just the very bottom lip of the right grip tapped the concrete and chipped one of the checkering diamonds. I do not carry my 1911 "cocked/ locked" because I do not trust that condition in the human environment - that was the first time I have ever dropped a firearm in (about) 50 years of handling - never say never - if the stars line up just right, I do not want an accidental discharge - very remote but..... Since I am "anal", I ordered another set of grips from Mr. Baer. Good shooting.
bassjam
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I've had it happen twice this summer, but not at all in the previous 22 years of shooting. Back in June or so I was standing up after sitting on the throne and pulling up my pants when my belt near my left hip got caught the corner of the sink. Somehow my SIG P938 fell out of the holster on my right hip when that happened.
More recently I was trying on my 442 in a Desantis Sof-tuck that I've never worn (I just use the holster in the door pocket of my truck when I'm driving, and use a separate pocket holster when I leave the truck). I wanted to try IWB carrying the 442 so I slid the gun and holster inside my waistband, started tightening my belt, and the 442 popped out of the holster like a wet bar of soap and landed on the pavement.
And I just remembered one other occasion so I guess I lied in my first statement. I think I was 17 and had just shot a squirrel when hunting so I rested my 870 against a tree (with the chamber empty and the slide open) to field dress the squirrel. Several minutes later, as I was several feet away, my shotgun slipped off the tree and fell over. That was when I learned to never use young trees with smooth bark as a rest!!
More recently I was trying on my 442 in a Desantis Sof-tuck that I've never worn (I just use the holster in the door pocket of my truck when I'm driving, and use a separate pocket holster when I leave the truck). I wanted to try IWB carrying the 442 so I slid the gun and holster inside my waistband, started tightening my belt, and the 442 popped out of the holster like a wet bar of soap and landed on the pavement.
And I just remembered one other occasion so I guess I lied in my first statement. I think I was 17 and had just shot a squirrel when hunting so I rested my 870 against a tree (with the chamber empty and the slide open) to field dress the squirrel. Several minutes later, as I was several feet away, my shotgun slipped off the tree and fell over. That was when I learned to never use young trees with smooth bark as a rest!!
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Hopefully it didn't bounce and slide into the stall next to you. "Hey bud, little help here...yea, thanks man. By the way, you got any tp over there?"
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Ever drop your cell phone? Ever drop your wrist watch or car keys?
Not many 7yr old kids have dropped any of the above, but there aren't many of them carrying and handling any of the above regularly either. Pretty hard to drop a pistol if you rarely pick one up and never move your feet from flat ground when you do.
Not many 7yr old kids have dropped any of the above, but there aren't many of them carrying and handling any of the above regularly either. Pretty hard to drop a pistol if you rarely pick one up and never move your feet from flat ground when you do.
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Dropping a gun is bad news... those that have, should think before handling it, it could save a life. No, i`ve never dropped one.
Winkman822
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I've never dropped my gun, but I've bumped it on things around the house or office while it's holstered and I had my hands full. And I did take a spill in the work parking lot last winter while carrying.
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Picked up a zippered soft case and I had not fully zipped it. Gun (unloaded) slid out, hit on rear right and bent it.
MTMilitiaman
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As I have stated before, if you've ever been issued a weapon, chances are, you've dropped them or worse.
If you've never dropped a firearm, you've probably haven't handled many firearms and you certainly haven't handled any firearms outside the square range.
If you've never dropped a firearm, you've probably haven't handled many firearms and you certainly haven't handled any firearms outside the square range.
Fine Figure of a Man
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I'm in with the bottom 60% here. In fact I have probably dropped everything I've handled often. Coffee cups are a real challenge.
My Mother has never dropped a gun but she's perfect, and doesn't have a gun.
My Mother has never dropped a gun but she's perfect, and doesn't have a gun.
JR24
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Had to change my vote, I just recalled that my Glock 26 slipped from its holster while I was seating myself on the can once.
Didn't drop it, per say, but it did hit the floor.
Learned to be extra careful with dropping trow that day, kinda thing they don't go over in safety classes
Didn't drop it, per say, but it did hit the floor.
Learned to be extra careful with dropping trow that day, kinda thing they don't go over in safety classes
Sauer Grapes
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Some how getting out of the car one time, my mod37 ended up in the street. I still don't know what it hooked on.
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