Do they make new 16 gauge shotgun anymore?

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Do Mossberg,Remington, and Winchester to name few still make 16 ga.shotguns? I googel it and all I see is 12 and 20 gagues come up..
 
Browning makes the BPS ( a pump shotgun ) as drunkenpoacher posted, they also make the A5 SWEET 16 semi-auto and the Citori o/u.
Ithica makes the model 37 ( a pump shotgun also ) as gpb posted.
There is a company that makes Winchester model 21s and a few other shotguns but I can't remember their name, these are pricey guns but very well made.
 
I've read an article where they tested the 16 gauge 2 3/4 shell against the 20 gauge both; the 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells throwing various payloads of differing shot sizes and they found that the 16 gauge throws better patterns at 40 yards then either 20 gauge shell does at 30 yards. Standard test for shotgun patterning 30 inch circle at 40 yards. Can't find that article though so I can't reference it.

Granted he only compared a few shotguns so the testing was heavily criticized for sample size, so take it for what its worth.
 
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Thanks for the links guys,and opinions.I want a 16 ga. way cheaper than the links prices:) but I do thank y'all for taken the time to help me.:cool:
 
Thanks for the links guys,and opinions.I want a 16 ga. way cheaper than the links prices:) but I do thank y'all for taken the time to help me.:cool:

Any reason why the gun has to be new? Generally shotguns last a long time and MOST 16ga people tend to use them for hunting, not heavy trap/skeet use. Last 16ga I bought after shipping, transfer fees and everything was $125 . . .

Do understand though that there's no logical reason to buy a 16ga unless you just want one "just because" (which is as good a reason as any sometimes :)). It's not that they're bad guns, it's just that light 12ga loads and heavy 20ga loads overlap 16ga enough to make it a bit redundant. Still fun to shoot though if you're willing to put up with the headache of limited ammo selection.
 
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I agree there. Plenty of sales for 12 and 20, but nothing for 16 gauge. Ran down to Walmart to pick up a box of 7 1/2 shot for five bucks, no 16 gauge. I have a 16 gauge double and to get around this I bought a set of 20 gauge Chambermates to turn my 16 gauge into a 20 gauge. Problem solved.
 
I've read an article where they tested the 16 gauge 2 3/4 shell against the 20 gauge both; the 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells throwing various payloads of differing shot sizes and they found that the 16 gauge throws better patterns at 40 yards then either 20 gauge shell does at 30 yards. Standard test for shotgun patterning 30 inch circle at 40 yards.

That is because of the shorter shot column. The same shot weight in a 20 has the pellets in a longer column inside the shell and more in contact with the barrel as they pass down the barrel, especially the longer 3" shells. The pellets in contact with the barrel are more likely to be deformed and fly erratically. Of course a 12 shoots even better patterns than a 16 for exactly the same reasons.

I can understand those wanting a 16 just to be different. But for most uses other than waterfowl somewhere between 7/8 oz and 1 1/8 oz of shot is the most useful. That can be accomplished with all 3 gauges and you'll always get the best patterns with a 12. The 20 will always be the lightest and easiest to carry. Most 16's, but not all, were built on 12 ga frames and were no lighter than a 12. While a 16 will certainly work, it has no clearly defined purpose.
 
If you like pump guns, look for a clean older Ithaca 37 in 16ga. I bought one a few years ago from a coworker for $200. It has a 28 inch barrel with a fixed modified choke, made in 1954. It has risen to be my favorite go to pump gun. And it's scaled to gauge, which makes it a real pleasure to carry and point.
 
Most if nor all of the older 16 gauges were built on 20 gauge frames or their own dedicated frame. Its only recently that they are put on a 12 gauge frame. That's where the old saying, "Carries like a 20 hits like a 12" comes from and refers to the 16 gauge.

I would have to say its the ammo manufacturers that did away with the 16 gauge in cost cutting measures. .
 
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Nice to see that some 16 ga. stuff is still available...... My first ever shotgun I got at age 17 was a 16 ga. (still got it) so I've got a soft spot for them. Ammo availability is no problem around my area. Not everyone has it but many do, including Wal-Mart. There's enough older 16's out there and even with some new guns in 16 it looks like the 16 will survive, even if it doesn't thrive.
 
If always wanted to make a 16 gauge tactical shotgun... something with black plastic furniture and a full-length magazine tube and ghost ring sights. :)

AFAIK, it's never been done before and certainly never offered from a factory.
 
Progressive smokeless powder and the preachings of Francis E. Sell, "Mr 20 gauge Magnum" were two things against the 16 gauge. Black powder had a narrower operating range and the 16 had a real place in the lineup.

1901 Sears offers 12 ga 3 dram 1 oz to 3 1/2 dr 1 1/8 oz.
3 3/4 dr 1 1/8 oz BB only, 3 1/2 dr 1 1/8 oz No 5 buck only.
10 ga more powder, still only 1 1/8 oz shot.
16 ga 1 oz, 20 ga 7/8 oz period.

1901 smokeless allowed for 1 1/4 oz of shot in 10 and 12 ga, still only 1 oz in 16 ga, smokeless not offered in 20 at all.

Not much later there were hundreds of different shotshells cataloged. Pick hull, powder, and shot from a wide selection. One early project of SAAMI was to get agreement on a sensible smaller variety.
 
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