Just remembered, a friend shot a intruder with shotgun years ago

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I had totally forgot this till a few moments ago but this is a true story of a shotgun home defense situation well handled by a friend's son.
Location: Vicinity of Rock Hill, SC, circa 1975???
My friend and his wife were out on a Thursday evening playing bingo which they did 52 weeks a year. They saw two individuals walk in bingo hall (who were known by my friends) and they stood there at front entry way looking over the crowd like they were looking for someone and left.
The went right to my friend's home and commenced to prying open the back door with wrecking bar. The back door entered the kitchen/dining area and directly across the room from the back door was a walk through opening going into a den where their TV was. The lights were on in kitchen/dining area and the den was dark where son was laying on couch watching TV. The light from the TV screen could not be seen from back door as TV was in a compartment in a wall bookcase.
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Their son had heard a car come up and thought it was his folks coming home but then the noise from the back door got his attention and he looked from the dark room and saw what was happening.
Over the den door was a 12 Ga pump with bird shot in it so he got it down, eased one in the chamber and waited. When the door was forced open the two proceeded to walk in behind each other and he pointed the 12 gage at first one and as the Brit's would say, "Gave him the good news!"
The guy behind him left. Police arrived and noted a bloody shreaded pack of cigarettes on floor behind the body. Examination of the body indicated entry wound was through shirt pocket over heart area where more of the cigarette package was found. In short it blew his cigarettes completely through him.

Parents arrived home to find blue/red lights going and told police who they had just seen with shootee and they went and arrested him. When he got to court his story was they had been invited to supper and were shot when they got there. Jury was out about five minutes and found second intruder guilty of B&E and murder. Under SC law if you are with somebody doing something wrong and anyone gets hurt/killed you are charged as accessory.

Knowing the house I estimate from the length of the shotgun from the muzzle to the point the shootee took the blast was about five feet.
 
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I'm wondering if it wasn't BBB or even buckshot. All the tests I've seen show that birdshot doesn't penetrate much more than 5"

I guess the guy could have been 5" from front to back?

Birdshot doesn't usually have that kind of energy to punch out a hole like that, and the pellets don't usually behave like that - the shot spreads out quickly instead of blasting a neat hole clean through (like #1 buckshot for instance).
 
I'm wondering if it wasn't BBB or even buckshot. All the tests I've seen show that birdshot doesn't penetrate much more than 5"

I guess the guy could have been 5" from front to back?

Birdshot doesn't usually have that kind of energy to punch out a hole like that, and the pellets don't usually behave like that - the shot spreads out quickly instead of blasting a neat hole clean through (like #1 buckshot for instance).
From FIVE FEET? Come on, the shot is still one lump in the plastic wad at five feet. Hang up a dead pig then blast it with a 12 gauge and birdshot from five feet away and see what happens. Your armspread from fingertip to fingertip is longer than 5 feet, unless you're only 5 feet tall.
 
Many years ago I was stationed in Spain. At my rank when I PCS'd I wasn't allowed to take any firearms. But as soon as I got there I could buy them, go figure.

I had been there just a short while when another fireman asked me what guns I had brought. Seems a little group called the ETA liked to kill Americans from time to time. I explained the situation and he said go to the Rod & Gun Club and buy at least one handgun (to carry) and one long gun. He suggested a shotgun as upland game hunting on private land was pretty good there.

So, I ended up buying a .357 Llama 4", and a 20 ga Franchi Model 48L.

I was living in an apartment (there weren't really any single family homes available off base) and since I carried the .357 with me pretty much always, that left the shotgun for my wife when I was working. Now I could buy anything from #9 to slugs at the R&G. Since I would be using smaller shot (don't even remember what it was) for upland game, that's what was in the shotgun most of the time. On a lark a couple of set up some highly scientific:cool: tests to see what it would do.

At inside apartment ranges the small shot tore a pretty good size hole and penetrated plenty deep enough to put anyone down.
 
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