What is the concern about semiauto rifles with thumbhole stocks?

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I am not sure about the present implementation status of California's proposed new definition of assault weapons, but from what I have seen online, part of the definition says that any centerfire semiauto rifle with any detachable magazine would be considered an assault weapon if it has a thumbhole stock. My question is, what do antigunners have against thumbhole stocks? Most thumbholes that I have seen are on rifles intended for target use.
 
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They do not have anything against thumbhole stocks. When the evil gun laws were written in CA they talked about pistol grips, detachable magazines, bayonet mounts, and flash suppressors. For a while this could be gotten around with a thumbhole stock. Now they are further defining the laws. It just goes to show you how these laws are so uninformed, they are banning guns by looks, not by purpose or function. Gosh, I am so glad I left CA when I did.
 
Haha. As was said, originally they put language in their bands which restricted guns with a pistol grip type stock, like an AR15.

One of the work arounds to that type of law was to start putting thumbhole stocks on such rifles. The Mak - 90 AK variants we're really common that way in the 90s.

So now they just want to make sure that they also ban anything that has a thumb hole stock so we can't use that as work around anymore.
 
It really has nothing to do with thumhole stocks. It’s just something else for the anti gunners to go after. They will never stop.

But they do nothing about the population soup of mentally ill and felons...right up to including the mentals and felons in legislature.
 
Well if people would stop using a particular style of weapon to massacre many innocent people routinely...
 
I believe the California law has more to do with any grip that allows ones thumb to be under the trigger or something of the such. Which is why you have those add on paddles to the grip which keeps ones thumb on the left side of the gun.

They had to have an all encompassing law because they failed to acknowledge the ingenuity of gun manufacturers and their ability to work around their ignorant laws.
 
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Its continuing massacres that drive more regulations. Politicians want to be seen doing something and targeting features is a good way to thread the proverbial needle between getting public support, remaining within existing law and what is accepted and what people will accept. Most of us liberals don't care about your guns at all, until the loose regulations you insist on enable mass murder via AR15. Taking a few thousand more ARs out of circulation or making them more of a PITA to own and handle is a win for a .ca politician who is decreasing the odds of a 'legally' bought rifle in their district being used in a mass murder.
 
Diane Feinstein's latest proposed federal AWB would include any semiautomatic rifle with a removable magazine, as long as it had at least one additional so-called "military" feature. (Those include pistol grips, folding or collapsible stocks, threaded barrels,etc. Thumbhole stocks, "bullet buttons," etc., are identified workarounds that would also be prohibited.)
 
Diane Feinstein's latest proposed federal AWB would include any semiautomatic rifle with a removable magazine, as long as it had at least one additional so-called "military" feature. (Those include pistol grips, folding or collapsible stocks, threaded barrels,etc. Thumbhole stocks, "bullet buttons," etc., are identified workarounds that would also be prohibited.)

Meanwhile y'all dream about reopening the machine-gun registry and vehemently oppose more rigorous or effective background checks...
 
They do not have anything against thumbhole stocks. When the evil gun laws were written in CA they talked about pistol grips, detachable magazines, bayonet mounts, and flash suppressors. For a while this could be gotten around with a thumbhole stock. Now they are further defining the laws. It just goes to show you how these laws are so uninformed, they are banning guns by looks, not by purpose or function. Gosh, I am so glad I left CA when I did.
Correct, they will come after your guns one little feature at a time. Next it will be semi automatics. Then all repeaters. Then center fires. Then metallic cartridges.
They are counting on people to say, " Whew, glad I don't own an assault rifle."
"Whew, glad Im a hunter and don't need a semi auto."
"Whew, glad I just need a .22."
"Whew, glad the state will protect me from the riots, and the terrorists, and the wildfires- they've done great at that so far."
 
Meanwhile y'all dream about reopening the machine-gun registry and vehemently oppose more rigorous or effective background checks...
Maybe if we just got all the liberals to turn in their guns, we would all be safe, since it has been the liberals doing the majority of the mass shootings.
What laws have been passed in the last 50 years that has made things better? What new law will prevent another mass shooting? What proposed new law would have stopped one of the mass shootings that has happened?
 
Well if people would stop using a particular style of weapon to massacre many innocent people routinely...

How about you stay on topic and answer the posters question about thumbhole stocks. Or point to where a thumb hole stock ban helps in preventing crimes as to the reason behind the legislation.

I’m all for adult discussion from the other side of the gun right spectrum but you have a problem of staying on topic within a thread. How about we stick to answering the posters question and keep “boogie man” off topic comments about AR15’s to yourself, or create a thread where you will AGAIN be faced with facts with no answers to back up your thinking to which you are about at your limit on given that there were many unanswered questions in the previous thread you started.

It gets real old when someone turns every thread into a chance at bashing an inanimate object like it has an evil soul of destruction.

I for one am just about to just click on ignore user on your name, I’ve tried to be patient but a man has his limits. You fail to have a two way discussion and simply throw attacks on the wall hoping something sticks with no response to the many rebuttals your arguments have faced.
 
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I got an answer to my original question. That is a thumbhole stock can be an end run around a prohibition against pistol grips in the antigunners' definition of assault weapons. That seems like a good answer to me. We don't need more extraneous comments. OK if the moderators want to close this. Thanks.
 
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