What do you carry when you can't carry a firearm?

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Armored farmer said:
Band aides and zipties in the wallet?
Bic lighter with duct tape around it?
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I have an IFAK with QuikClot, a tourniquet, and pressure bandages on the outside of my purse, and a First Aid Kit with Benadril, Aleve, band aids, mole skin, and other useful items inside a waterproof Pelican case inside the pack. No zip ties, although that's a good idea. I do have about 25 feet of duct tape, and several Bic lighters on my person and in the purse.
 
Now how in the world do you carry zip ties in a wallet that'll fit in your pants?;)

The rest, sure.
 
gillmeister692 said:
what role a battery-operated flashlight (U.K., "torch") can play in personal self-defense
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Read some of our flashlight threads and you'll find a wealth of information from temporarily blinding an attacker to using it as an impact weapon. Some are bright enough to rob vision and others have a strobe function that disorients. Then there's the value as sean m says as a fist load or kopo or kubaton stick (best to have some minimal training).
 
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I need a cane to walk with (broken back ), and I always have a metal flashlight with a glassbreaker bezel clipped to my shirt. The rest I'll figure out as needed.
 
I am surprised that no one mention a good carabiner. I have been toled you can use a climbing carabiner for keys and it fits over my hands well if need as knuckle dusters, also can hang a pa racked Keychain to use as a whip device
 
I carry fantasies of my close combat abilities that were fantasies even when I was younger.........

Seriously though, generally a one handed folder, three to four inches. Sometimes a flash light. Once in a while OC spray. Always try to carry my brain with me as well. When I feel "dressy" but may not want to carry a gun I carry a small fixed blade IWB strong side under my jacket.

My wife and her buddy used to carry huge purses that housed among all their girl stuff each a two cell C cell Maglite back in the days before the super lights of small size. Beside providing what we then though a "blinding light" (seems more like a birthday candle now) and making a nice karate stick and fist load they made a darned fine cudgel. The girls trained to hold them by the bell so as to prevent flinging them away and swinging for the fence, generally with the first "shot" aimed at the knees or shin to prevent it being blocked and give the bad guy something to think about as he rolled on the ground and they ran off screaming. They both worked on a weapons free campus at the time and each also kept a small can of CS or CN in their desk drawer as OC was not commonly available then.

Today the wife carries OC spray when she has no other options.

-kBob
 
theboyscout said:
I am surprised that no one mention a good carabiner. I have been toled you can use a climbing carabiner for keys and it fits over my hands well if need as knuckle dusters, also can hang a pa racked Keychain to use as a whip device
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I alluded to it but should have been more specific. Although, I should say the knuckle duster idea does not work. I tried and almost broke a finger. Knuckle dusters have to fit very closely to work safely. On the other had, attaching it to the end of a flexible item, especially if it's steel, makes a decent bludgeon.
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Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn folder, Zero Tolerance 0452 CF, Cold Steel Ti-Lite 6, Kershaw Shallot... or in the bear woods when I don't want to alarm the liberal hikers, OC spray.
 
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Monday night I confronted a patient armed with a small juice bottle in a sock. If she had managed to connect solidly with that, broken bones or a concussion would have been likely. Yes, even with just a full plastic bottle.

I stopped her and took scratches to my left ear, right neck, and top of my scalp. Bruises to my left forearm. Since no-one else was hurt, including her, I considered us all damn fortunate. A skilled fighter could probably have hospitalized at least two of the staff before being stopped. Flexibles take practice to use well, but are extremely dangerous in the right hands.
 
I can't keep up with the latest almost daily legislated intrusions on liberty in Kali the last decade especially since my CCW was not renewed- just because. So i have adopted the "who cares" attitude. Out of sight is out of mind, stay away from dangerous places (like cities) , don't act out and be courteous and polite to all especially authority has gotten me trouble free for going on 72 years. When I travel on airplanes I do take a cane with me and have handicap credentials but I did have Hap Ki do cane training in the 80s so know how to use it. I prefer a oak or hickory live stock cane that I sand slick and have a good sealer on for looks. I am a flash light freak for many years and it is amazing how many lumens they can pack into a very small flashlight nowadays with a decent run time, they do not allow litium ion batteries on planes tho. I am good with blades and have several ceramic neck knives of useable size but since the new airport scan methods those are not carried anymore, they pass wanding and metal detectors tho :) but truthfully I daily carry a steelblade-allways except planes and govt. buildings. I prefer a small 4" Polkowski Polecat fixed blade in a thin kydex sheath IWB and a good folder or multipurpose tool like a Victornox. When I attend MC functions I let my (long white ) hair down and have a 9" Mad Dog Rezine 2000 openly on belt, an old Spyderco Police model clipped on my vest a couple small flashlights and a 9 .oz sap . I was taught to use a sap since about 10 years old by NYPD cops back in the day and they have saved my bacon more than once and I got away with it :) . I won't even go into pistols this being the wrong forum.
 
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There aren't too many places I care to go to that I can't carry. However, if I fly or go to a ball game I carry a cane. I have several nice homemade canes and keep one in my car. For defensive purposes a cane is probably better than a knife and at my age no one questions a cane.
 
I recently bought a 21" ASP telescopic thingy which was on sale for $69 instead of $119 . It is electroless nickle plated and seems to deploy nicely. It fit in my front or back jeans pocket nicely and only weighs 9 .oz same as my sap . Where I really like it is to replace my DOT official steel wrapped wooded 14" truck checker in my new Ford pickup drivers door pocket since it doesn't stick out and is pretty stealthy. I am finding an old moldy heavy bag in my shed and hanging it tommorrow to start practicing. I don't want to destroy it.
 
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Im not a big fan of the asp. But that is just me.

Not because they are not good weapons but but Im not learnining another system. Im 2 years younger than Gordon with a similar background of occupations and youthful and mid-life misadventures
To me they feel puny compared to a real baton and if Im going to go all CQB with a melee weapon Im bringing an oak 40 second fight stopper.

YMMV
 
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